Posted on 09/27/2008 9:28:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
Obama Offices Different, Separate and Apart From Democrat Party Offices Does Obama Campaign Not Trust the Democrats? Or is it the Clintons?
Will Election 2008 be remembered as the first contest between Republicans and Obamacrats–or the first between the Obamacrats and the Democrats?
Senator Barack Obama is building a national organization separate and apart from the national Democrat Party apparatus–at least in any state where the outcome of the November election is at all in doubt.
In state after state, the Obama campaign, in a break with tradition, has opened up its own offices–which largely push Barack Obama, and only Obama–apart from the Democrat Party’s own offices in those very same communities.
Obama has, literally, hundreds of these offices dotting the USA.
[ABOVE: Obama offices in Ohio--these are separate from local Democrat Party offices in the communities listed.]
In Ohio, seventy Obama Campaign for Change Regional Offices–all of them separate and apart from the Democrat Party. In Pennsylvania, sixty-three Campaign for Change offices.
The list goes on: Virginia, over forty offices; Georgia, thirty-eight; North Carolina, thirty-six; Indiana, thirty-two; Colorado, thirty; Iowa, twenty-three; Minnesota, twelve; West Virginia, six.
In states where the outcome is already pretty much decided, Campaign for Change operates few offices: one in Texas and California, for example.
Does Obama Trust the Democrats? Do the Democrats Trust Obama?
The Campaign for Change offices push one product: Barack Obama.
In our weekend visit to Obama offices, we found that local and state Democrat candidates did have a presence at the Campaign for Change offices–but not much of one.
Almost all of the usual campaign giveaways were there: pencils, literature, stickers. They were all on a small table in the back of the room.
That small table represented all of the local, district and state Democrat candidates–combined. The rest of the spacious room was dedicated to Barack Obama. In almost every case, it was Obama without a meniton of running mate, Joe Biden.
The local Democrat campaign office, we were informed, was “down the street, around the corner.”
One of the offices visited last weekend was in Ohio.
A few months ago, after Ohio Governor Ted Strickland turned down the Obama veep invitation, Scared Monkeys noted the difficulties Obama was having getting moderates in the Democrat Party to get in line.
So much for gaining that candidate in an all important must win battle ground state like Ohio. There will be no Obama-Strickland ticket and Obama’s chances of victory in Ohio just became more difficult. What is more interesting about this decision by Strickland is that he is a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter. What does that tell us about the Democratic party so-called coming together after the bitterly contested primary?
To add just a little bit more Democratic party unity, Democratic Representative Dan Boren of Oklahoma stated that Barack Obama is “the most liberal senator” in Congress and he has no intention of endorsing him for the White House. So much for support from moderate Democrats. As most had suspected, many moderate Dems find Obama to liberal to endorse.
The Obama campaign and supporters will likely dismiss the separate offices as “smart thinking” and “targeting resources”. But, each office sucks up resources: lease money, campaign materials and manpower. The Campaign for Change offices are staffed by volunteers, but a volunteer sitting behind a desk is a volunteer not knocking on doors.
In this way, the Obama campaign is sure of one thing: the volunteer on the phone in a Des Moines Campaign for Change office will be talking about Barack Obama–not the local Democrat candidate for County Commissioner.
The Obama campaign is apparently charging fellow Democrats for Obama campaign materials. At a Democrat-sponsored booth at an event in Wheeling WV, local Democratic candidates manning the location complained about this sign of Obamaization. The booth featured many local and state Democrat candidates, but not much Obama signage or literature.
“We had to pay for them,” a lady complained. “They don’t give us anything.”
Even Obama supporters have to pay the campaign for everything in the offices. “Al”, who we spoke to at a local Obama campaign office, said he had to “pay for the lease out of my own pocket. All of the t-shirts, button, stickers here, I paid for.”
So, if Obama volunteers are paying the campaign for everything and picking up the tab for leases, isn’t this just a smart move?
Each Campaign for Change office becomes a cash cow: it not only pays for itself, it sends money to the national Obama campaign for campaign materials.
And, the staff isn’t wasting time contacting voters about the other Democrat candidates. At Campaign for Change, it’s All Obama, All of the Time.
Are there any other reasons why the Obama campaign built this network dedicated to the election of Barack Obama outside of normal Democrat Party channels?
The Specter of Hillary Clinton
The Obama campaign may have set up all of those separate offices–in any state that might be the least bit in play–because of the woman Obama beat in the Democrat primaries: Hillary Clinton.
A Campaign for Change office is an office beyond any possible control of Clintonistas.
“Pssst… Did you know Obama takes Lobbyist money, even though he claims he doesn’t?”
“IMPLOSION Continues: Et tu, New Jersey?”
“Guess who says Obama has no plan? Harry Reid, That’s Who…”
The preceding headlines come from the front page of PUMA08.com. They help illustrate the rift between some supporters of Hillary Clinton and the candidate that they claim was “selected, not elected” to represent the Democrats in November.
An AP-Yahoo News poll claims that Democrats who backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries are still not warming up to Barack Obama. Fifty-eight percent of Clinton supporters now back Obama.
That was the same percentage who said they backed Obama in a June, when Clinton called it quits and the PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) movement was born.
The poll shows that while Obama has gained ground among Clinton’s supporters — 69 percent view him favorably now, up 9 percentage points from June — this has yet to translate into more of their support.
In part, this is because their positive views of Republican presidential nominee John McCain have also improved during this period. Those supporting McCain have also edged up from 21 percent to 28 percent, with the number of undecided staying constant, the survey showed.
Obama and many of his supporters haven’t warmed to the Clintons.
The Clintons, and many of their supporters, haven’t warmed to Obama.
Insight Analytical thinks Obama doesn’t want Clinton Democrats and asks, “Why?”
It’s 44 days until the General Election as I write this and after a long and hard fought primary season the Democratic Party, and the Obama campaign specifically, are still unable to get over their terminal case of CDS. I can’t help but ask “Why”? For the uninitiated, CDS stands for Clinton Derangement Syndrome, usually defined as the uncontrollable impulse to rail against all things Clinton (Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Hillary’s supporters, and basically anything connected to centrist positions).
Team Obama not only masterminded the overthrow of the Democratic Party to form the “New Democrats” (remember the May 31, 2008 coup when all semblance of the rules were overthrown at a behind-closed-doors meeting of the Rules and Bylaws Committee), they literally declared the nomination belonged to Obama despite the fact that:
Hillary Clinton won more of the popular vote than Obama (when the Florida and Michigan primaries are included as originally voted) Automatic (also called Super) Delegates are unable to actually cast a vote until the national Convention Obama did not actually have enough Super Delegates “locked in” to declare himself the winner when he did Hillary Clinton didn’t contest the illegal theft of earned delegates in Michigan, despite her legal right to do so
Bill Clinton was accused of having short coattails; of being “Good for Bill Clinton, bad for Democrats.”
Obama may turn out to have even shorter coattails. While Clinton campaigned for other Democrats–a lot–so far, Obama has campaigned for Obama.
One reason given for the recent outbreak of rumors concerning the dumping of Joe Biden from the ticket was the “Obama only” syndrome.
No Biden Rumor: No Obama-Biden Campaign Materials in Obama Offices
Will Bower, of PUMA08.com, isn’t buying the “Dump Biden” rumors.
“I believe that the “Dump Biden” rumor is exactly that — a rumor.”
Bower added that “I don’t believe that Hillary would encourage Obama to do such a thing at this juncture. It would only serve to make him (accurately) look weak and indecisive.”
Will then directed us to the following video.
The View: Bill Clinton Pretends He Wants Obama To Win
Will Obama win using his national network of Campaign for Change offices, which are separate from the local Democrat Party?
Will Obama have any coattails, helping local Democrats to victory in close local races?
Does it matter?
After all, Barack Obama–who may be described as having been in perpetual campaign mode–is building his own network of volunteers, fund-raising and organization. It’s a network beholden to no one outside of the Obama campaign.
In case of an Obama win, it’s a network that’s already in place and can be expanded upon in 2012 for a re-election run.
In case of an Obama loss, it’s a network already in place that can be expanded upon in 2012 for another run against all comers–Republican or Democrat. The Clintons were accused of being only for the Clintons, but even they did not build a network of separate campaign offices–they worked within the framework already established by the Democrats.
Will the Obama organization supersede the Democratic Party? Or will the Clintons and their supporters be able to circumvent this looming obstacle?
2008 may be remembered as the beginning of a battle in which John McCain was only one opponent among many.
by Mondo
Did you know about this? What’s going on?
This anti-Christ, who still thinks he walks on water, has re-invented the Presidential seal, redefined the word “change” to mean anything the socialists want to do to you and America, stiffed the Clintons, hosed over the DNC, and has a difficult time even making a speech without choking on his own words.
The arrogance and ego of this reprobate fraud is beyond anything ever seen in a Presidential race....
This guy is truly scary. The sheer amount of money that his campaign has raised (from every far left group and individual there is) allows him to pretty much complete the takeover of the Democrat Party (the way that moveon.org has already partially done). This is not healthy for the nation.
But then again....
What do I know?
Does the name Benito Mussolini ring a bell?
Thanks, Fred. First I’ve read about it.
Definitely needs a ping.
Loud and clear. I have a very bad feeling about this...however, might this not be seen in the light of a Dem party split? I'm an Aussie; will have to rely on Freepers to help make sense of it all.
Each Campaign for Change office becomes a cash cow: it not only pays for itself, it sends money to the national Obama campaign for campaign materials.
And, the staff isn’t wasting time contacting voters about the other Democrat candidates. At Campaign for Change, it’s All Obama, All of the Time.
Does it have any connections to the world workers party?
thanks Lucy, I’m a little stunned by it all.
I only know what’s in the blog. Only found it a few minutes ago...
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What happened to Mussolini?
Is it improper to detail that on an Obama thread?
Sounds like a great idea...McCain should be doing this. Party affiliation is becoming more and more a liability.
Madeleine Talbot. She embraced Obama and taught him the ropes. He remained a part of this group’s training cadre. Obama taught leadership conferences for the group while working for Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
His connections don’t end there.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
Not so much in his politics, Obobble Head is a socialist and Mussolini was a fascist.
My only comparison is how Benito organized and then seized his politcal power.
Truly ominous. He’s looking more and more like a 666.
I think Obama knows he's going down and he's pulling out all the stops. Nothing this Muslim does surprises me.
But as Jonah Goldberg points out in his book “Liberal Fascism, Mussolini was a socialist before
he became a fascist. In fact Goldberg contends there was much of the socialist in him up to the time he was executed.
...and might that be why Hillary literally handed him the nomination?
Imprudent.
Let’s see to it that he is NEVER elected! For ANYTHING ever again!!!
I am doing my part. I just wish the Republicans would take
the gloves off and quit playing nice. Obama and his people hate us, hate capitalism, hate America.
Well...... I hate Socialists, Fascists, Communists and all they stand for.
So the feeling is mutual.
He’s readying his own Stasi network..
And in the end, Socialists, Fascists, Communists etc. are all the same-unlimited power to the state, little if any power to individuals.
Very scary, thanks for the ping LucyT
It’s becoming evident this entire scenario has been in the planning for many years. Obama is the instrument. In the background is a cast of thousands.
ping
Very interesting and scary.
A beastly number..
This new “network” will undergo a name change sooner or later. And, even if the name doesn’t change the result will be this: “The OBAMA COMMUNIST NETWORK”.
(Thanks for posting this... Obama is quickly working his way to becoming more infamous, and more EVIL than Ahmadinejad or any of the dictators in power around the world. Why? Because in order to take America to the pits of Communism they would have to LITERALLY slaughter MILLIONS of civilians. Far more than any other Communist dictatorship has had to do in the past. We KNOW Freedom, what it means, what it costs, etc... - those under the current despotic regimes don’t.)
Thank you for the ping Lucy. When you add up all the things Obama is doing here in this country it becomes CLEAR that he is following a path that the world’s most EVIL and sadistic dictators have ALWAYS taken to power. AND, I fear that if Obama got his way - the Holocaust would look like child’s play.
The WWP? Yes, it certainly does. He has Code Pink and- if I recall correctly - Saddam Hussein’s lawyer Ramsey Clark in his campaign staff.
Just like the Republicans having RINOs and Conservatives, the Democrats have the Progressives and the Blue Dogs. The states where Obama is setting up separate offices from the DNC have more Blue Dogs. The Blue Dogs are the Reagan Democrats. They will not help Obama win office.
Obama has a new headquarters in my town. Right next to my husband’s mechanics. I saw the West Coast Crypts go in. It was a bit amusing to see them dressed in suits but still sporting gang colors.
It just gets worse and more frightening.
Thanks, Beckwith.
bttt
Please ping your lists and ping other lists, this is frightening.
Pray for our nation.
Yes. I wonder what would happen if he has to come clean about the details of his birth? I woulewd not be surprised that he will act indignant, will go off on his own, and start a new party and run against the Dems and the GOP.
Could we be witnessing a coup de tat in the Democrat Party by authentic socialists? Obama has made significant advances toward establishing a viable “renegade wing”, solely headed by himself (or acting as the figurehead, as he already is as a candidate), and solely funded by wealthy, leftist industrialists, organizations, and individuals, ie: Soros, MoveOn, and the Hollywood left. His powerful network of operations in battleground states, working apart from the DNC, is a display of how advanced and organized he and his machine is becoming.
Just who would reign in a socialist Obama administration? He cut his political teeth on Daly’s Democrat Party Machine in Chicago. His close ties to the Daly machine, which groomed him for the presidency through the party’s ranks of the community activist system (ACORN) gives you the answer. He has close ties to associates such as William Ayers and other factions, such as those who subscribe to the Marxist Black Liberation Theology, just to name a few.
Would the establishment moderates at the DNC have the clout or the wherewithall to regain control from Obama’s hands to withstand a coup? Think about where the DNC now gets its funding. These contributors would surely threaten to dry up the flow of money to the DNC, should they go against the socialist Obama. Remember, also, Obama reneged on his pledge to take federal funding when he realized he could rake in a substantially greater amount of money through private donations. That says a lot about how the Democrat party might be transformed should Obama win this election.
The gangs would be Obama's personal police. Much like Africa. We see that with Odinga. Whom Obama endorsed.
And if you have an independent Obama office in your town. Go watch who goes in and out. I see it in mine.
Barack Obama and his cousin Raila Odinga. Odinga and Obama are from the same Kenyan Luo tribe. Odinga supporters are the people that are burning Christians alive, trapped inside churches! Most of Odinga's fanatical followers are radical Islamists who have pushed for Islamic Sharia Law, total banning of other religions and closing of co-ed schools, night clubs and ‘public dressing style considered immoral’. Odinga was educated in Former Soviet controlled East Germany and maintains a strong loyalty to the vision of his ‘Educators’ and has allied with Islamist in order to gain their political support.
In 2006 Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga. Obama also directly attacked the sitting Kenyan leadership (Kibaki) calling them ‘corrupt’ (Kenya was one of the most stable places in Africa).
Odinga is the man that ran on the socialist democrat ticket in Kenya and lost to sitting president Kibaki.
It’s not getting reported in the media that the looting and burning of businesses in Kisumu was targeted to both Kikuyus and Kenyan Indians. The economy of Kenya is controlled by these two groups because they are Entrepreneurial. But Kenyan Indians rarely get involved in Kenyan politics, they do not vote by choice, yet the Luos in Kisumu do not like them, that’s why their stores were getting burnt too.
A Tribe of 540,000 Kikuyu, rivals of the Luo for Power, all but vanishes from Kenyan City ethnically cleansed and massacred by Odinga’s butchers.
In the December elections in Kenya, violence broke out as Raila lost. The cause of the violence was Odinga’s inflammatory comments about the election: When Raila Odinga lost the presidential election (12/27) to Mwai Kibaki, he claimed the vote was rigged, whereupon his tribal followers went on murderous rampages such as in the town of Eldoret, where on New Years Day dozens of people were burned to death in a church set on fire. Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people have been politically murdered in the last few days.
Bishop Cornelius Korir of Eldoret confirms the killings were organized and planned. It is believed Odinga and his ODM Pentagon members had planned it all, long before elections, and especially William Ruto the MP for Eldoret North (the burning of women and children in a church).
He is tearing through the country using murder and rape as his weapons of choice. Justice Minister Martha Karua said. Odinga’s group (Orange Democratic Movement has planned to carry out systematic ethnic cleansing. This is a dangerous man in what has up until now been a pretty stable country on an unstable continent.
The Orange Democratic Movement is opposed to democracy and free elections. Refusing to accept the result of the national election, Odinga will break the country, beat, “cleanse” rape until this depraved savage gets the power. Raila Odinga rejected a presidential invitation for talks.
Abongo “Roy” Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.” He urges his younger brother, Barack Hussein Obama to embrace his ‘African’ heritage.
The way Barack Obama describes his oldest half-brother in his book, Abongo (Roy) Obama inherited their father’s hard-drinking ways but straightened his life out by embracing Islam and his African heritage.
Abongo Obama began using his Luo tribal first name and had sworn off pork, smoking and drinking by the time of his younger brother’s 1992 wedding. “Abongo’s new lifestyle has left him lean and clear-eyed, and at the wedding, he looked so dignified in his black African gown with white trim and matching cap that some of our guests mistook him for my father,” Obama wrote (Dreams From My Father).
In the latest development in the deepening ties between Obama’s pal Odinga (ODM party) and the Islamists. “Obama’s “cousin” the ruthless violent Raila Odinga now nominated the radical Sheikh he signed the Islamic Memoradum Of Understanding with as a Member of Parliament (MP)
The Media presents Odinga and his supporters in such a way that they look like angels even as they kill people.
More brutal and gory details of the man Obama unequivocally supports. This is more than bad judgment, this is scary. Odinga’s has nefarious Arab ties and his hand in the ongoing violence that has all of Kenya in its barbaric clutches. Inconceivable horror. Gang rapings, murders and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Obama has backed Odinga unequivocally going so far as telling big media (TIME Magazine’s Joe Klein), Obama has had near-daily conversations with the U.S. Ambassador in Kenya or with opposition leader Raila Odinga.
From Obama/RICO thread:
>>>obamao scares me.
>>>if elected, we’d have a chavez or putin government.
I believe we would have an Odinga government (see above).
P I N G
This is creepy.
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