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S. Africa: Zuma’s rise puts whites to flight
The Telegraph ^ | 9/28/2008 | RW Johnson, Johannesburg

Posted on 09/27/2008 9:16:38 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

A wave of alarm swept through middle-class South Africa last week as President Thabo Mbeki was sacked by the ruling African National Congress and replaced by Kgalema Motlanthe, who has already presided over sweeping cabinet changes. >P?

The new president is still remembered as a communist militant who urged that the country’s youth be “taught to hate capitalism”.

The real winner in the coup against Mbeki is Jacob Zuma. He will lead the ANC into next April’s election and is strongly backed by the powerful Communist party and the Congress of South African Trade Unions, both of which favour radical left-wing policies. Polls show that business confidence has slumped to a seven-year low.

There has long been considerable evidence of “white flight” to cities in Britain, Australia, America and New Zealand. It is estimated that up to 20% of South Africa’s whites have emigrated since the advent of democracy in 1994.

Anecdotal evidence suggests that Zuma’s rise, coupled with nationwide power cuts and a continuing crime wave, has led to a further massive brain drain. Polls show that 63% of South Africans have “seriously considered” emigration.

“Among my age group the chorus is absolutely insistent,” said Geoff Landsman, 25, a civil engineer. “You must go abroad. If at all possible equip yourself with a foreign passport. I have a Dutch one. I’ll leave by Christmas. I’m not saying I’ll never come back but I want to see if I can cut it abroad.”

Anna Davids, 62, an ophthalmologist, lamented: “There’s a whole generation missing. Look around. Where are the young white couples aged 25-45? At least two-thirds of them are gone.”

She said that affirmative action plans discouraged young whites from staying. “Everything’s loaded against young whites, no matter how well qualified they are.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa

1 posted on 09/27/2008 9:16:38 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

It is sad that we seem to be about to trade the injustices in Zimbabwe for a wider set of injustices in South Africa.


2 posted on 09/27/2008 9:20:18 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I was happy to see the end of apartheid in South Africa.

However, rather than evolving towards a peaceful multi-racial society, they are evolving towards a society in which the white minority is discriminated against.

Will South Africa go from being a modern developed country to just another sub-Saharan African hell hole? I wouldn’t wager any money on it; it could go either way. If these militants continue to force out the most productive young generation of people, anything could happen there.


3 posted on 09/27/2008 9:22:11 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bruinbirdman

Maybe they can ask Bobby Mugabe for some advise. Communism seemed to work pretty well in Zimbabwe.


4 posted on 09/27/2008 9:26:52 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: bruinbirdman
Don't ask how I know but the black government officials are getting their money out of SA. The place is doomed. 5 - 10 years it will be another Zambia.

There is the mixed racers, the Indians and Paks that immigrated there 30 40 years ago and built a thriving business and solid middle class. The Negro's, most of whom immigrated from Northern Africa hated them and ran them out.

I am thinking bad thoughts

5 posted on 09/27/2008 9:27:11 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Those “fighting apartheid” in SA were all followers of Karl Marx in one way or another from Bishop Tutu to Nelson Mandela.

The white liberals certainly weren’t but now they are learning the hard way what “ending apartheid” was a step on the road to.

Zuma said he supported Tsvangirai against Mugabe in Zimbabwe but that may just be a reflection that the ANC was modeled after Russian Communism while Mugabe’s ZANU was influenced by Chinese Communism.


6 posted on 09/27/2008 9:29:45 PM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Why stay? I met quite a few young South Africans who faced the same dilemma when I traveled there about 5 years ago. The writing is on the wall. The South African Govt has no use for white people, plain and simple. The AA there favors blacks. The only thing worse than being white in SA is being colored because most coloreds to not have the financial wherewithal to escape. Sad...


7 posted on 09/27/2008 9:31:50 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: bruinbirdman
It is never ethnic genocide and ethnic cleansing if the victims are white...
8 posted on 09/27/2008 9:33:08 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: bruinbirdman
I worked in South Africa in the mid 80s and I very clearly remember one of the guys I worked with, who was from Zimbabwe, told me “South Africa would never go the same direction as Zimbabwe. I wonder where he is now?
9 posted on 09/27/2008 9:34:25 PM PDT by BaylorDad (DNC = Do Nothing Congress!)
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To: Nextrush

I often wonder if Tsvangirai would be any different that Mugabe in the end. Who knows? But, hey, at least that evil Ian Smith is gone! /s


10 posted on 09/27/2008 9:35:48 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: bruinbirdman

Heute Sud-Afrika, Morgens Hier


11 posted on 09/27/2008 9:37:22 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Will the Titanic sink, just because it’s taking on a little water?


12 posted on 09/27/2008 9:40:17 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: bruinbirdman

“a communist militant who urged that the country’s youth be taught to hate capitalism”

Sounds a lot like community organizer and Muslim Barack Hussein Obama!


13 posted on 09/27/2008 9:42:41 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: bruinbirdman

Don’t worry, Chinese will soon occupy the managerial and engineering posts left vacant by the whites.


14 posted on 09/27/2008 9:43:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: bruinbirdman

We have new (white) neighbors on our block from South Africa. Surprise, surprise.


15 posted on 09/27/2008 9:51:34 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: bruinbirdman

Obama is no different.


16 posted on 09/27/2008 9:54:50 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: bruinbirdman
I'll miss the wine and minerals, but as soon as I'm assured they can't build a bomb again, I won't really care. The new apartheid will have the Chinese as the #1 people, anyways.
17 posted on 09/27/2008 9:58:46 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: bruinbirdman

Coming soon to a nation near you. :D


18 posted on 09/27/2008 9:59:39 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: B-Chan

Nicht, wenn FR hat irgendetwas zu sagen darüber.


19 posted on 09/27/2008 10:05:07 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

The ethic cleansing in SA doesn’t get more attention because whites are seen as deserving for their ‘fathers sins’ by our liberal media. Will be interesting to see if whites for militias for defense or just be exterminated. My guess is exterminated since they started disarming law abiding citizens in 2006.


20 posted on 09/27/2008 10:05:22 PM PDT by TDT
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To: TDT

‘ethnic cleansing’


21 posted on 09/27/2008 10:06:01 PM PDT by TDT
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To: Comparative Advantage
I wondered why the Holiday Inn in Sandton was built like a fort. Now I know why.

As I type, I am looking at beautiful pictures from the Zulu lands, Bluenfontain (sp?), Howick Falls, Durban, etc.

This is such a shame for a potentially wonderful country. One of the most beautiful places I have been in the world.

22 posted on 09/27/2008 10:08:20 PM PDT by AGreatPer (If it's in the Yellow Pages our government shouldn't get involved.)
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To: Astronaut
“a communist militant who urged that the country’s youth be taught to hate capitalism”

"You should reject the corporate desk and seek the COMMUNity's favor." -- Michelle Osama

yitbos

23 posted on 09/27/2008 10:11:34 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: B-Chan

That’s a scary thought...


24 posted on 09/27/2008 10:44:32 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (speak true, right wrong, follow the King)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
it could go either way. If these militants continue to force out the most productive young generation of people, anything could happen there.

The pc police have beat your brains numb. If the black communists assume power, it can only go one way, and that's not up.

25 posted on 09/27/2008 11:27:22 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: bruinbirdman; All
-"Pity About Africa..."--

The title is a take-off from a forgettable book with an unforgettable name:

For more,

http://www.sff.net/people/richard.horton/aced22.htm

26 posted on 09/28/2008 1:14:49 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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To: Travis McGee
Yes, and the ChiComs and their African minions will not care what the left leaning elitists from the West think.
27 posted on 09/28/2008 2:15:17 AM PDT by BBell
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To: stubernx98

***The place is doomed. 5 - 10 years it will be another Zambia.***

I’m thinking Uganda, in the 1960’s and 70’s when Idi Amin ran the India merchants out.


28 posted on 09/28/2008 3:50:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (We're not supporting clean coal --- Joe Biden)
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To: bruinbirdman

Simple questions: Why are they committing self-suicide? Why have they not been able to transform their countries to prosperous, modern countries upon transition of power from their former European rulers? Why have they all sunk to unfunctional and disfunctional places?/Just Asking - seoul62.....


29 posted on 09/28/2008 4:10:40 AM PDT by seoul62
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