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Bailout Negotiations Enter Evening Session
The Wall Street Journal ^ | SEPTEMBER 27, 2008, 8:59 P.M. ET | COREY BOLES and MICHAEL R. CRITTENDEN

Posted on 09/27/2008 6:54:44 PM PDT by PureSolace

Progress in Talks Creates Optimistic Mood; Insurance Fund Gains Momentum

WASHINGTON -- The idea of charging large financial firms fees to set up an industry-funded rescue insurance fund was gaining momentum as key House and Senate negotiators continued to meet Saturday evening to iron out the final details of a $700 billion rescue package for Wall Street.

Lawmakers and staff reconvened their meeting around 7:30 p.m. EDT in the offices of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.), hopeful they could broker a deal on the much anticipated but exceedingly difficult-to-negotiate legislation that would have the federal government buy up billions of dollars of soured assets.

The mood was said to be "optimistic" entering the evening talks, according to a Senate aide familiar with the talks, after policymakers -- including Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson -- made progress during an afternoon negotiating session. Staff predicted a long night of negotiations, however, an observation backed up by the delivery of food from sandwich shop Cosi to Ms. Pelosi's office just before 8 p.m. EDT.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; street; wall; washington
Bring in the food trucks! It'll be a long night! Good to see Washington at least try to work overtime like normal Americans. Will any good come from this? Thoughts? Comments?
1 posted on 09/27/2008 6:54:44 PM PDT by PureSolace
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To: PureSolace

NO TAX INCREASES

NO MONEY FOR LA RAZA

NO MONEY FOR ACORN


2 posted on 09/27/2008 6:55:44 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: PureSolace

I hope they all choke and Barney Frank has to do the Heimlich on them.


3 posted on 09/27/2008 6:57:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When Republicans do it, it's "corruption." When DemocRATS do it, it's a financial crisis.)
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To: Perdogg

There were 752 pages of pork barrel earmarks attached to the bailout scam last week. I’ll bet that goes to at least 1000 pages by Monday.


4 posted on 09/27/2008 6:58:27 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: PureSolace
More from the article:

"Initially there were to be four lawmakers -- one representing each party in both houses of Congress at the talks. They were Messrs. Gregg and Dodd in the Senate and Reps. Barney Frank (D., Mass.) and Blunt in the House. Mr. Frank is the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Mr. Blunt is the Minority Whip, while Mr. Dodd is the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee hearing, and Mr. Gregg is the ranking member on the Senate budget panel.

But they were joined by several other senior Democrats, and there are as of late Saturday nine Democrats in the room compared with just the two Congressional Republicans, and Paulson.

5 posted on 09/27/2008 6:58:37 PM PDT by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: Perdogg

I Hope the House Republicans stay strong. They have no reason to bend.


6 posted on 09/27/2008 6:58:45 PM PDT by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: PureSolace

Just say NO!


7 posted on 09/27/2008 6:58:51 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: PureSolace

Can someone explain why the Dems have any motive to compromise? They want the chaos. Shoot, they probably caused it and timed it for October to make their guy win. They can pass it without Republicans and Bush will sign anything at this point.


8 posted on 09/27/2008 6:59:37 PM PDT by Mercat (Global warming doesn't kill polar bears, Sarah Palin does, with her voice)
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To: PureSolace

The first thing they always say when they get in front of a microphone is “We were here until 11 p.m. blah blah” It cracks me us b/c many Americans are up even later taking care of business and kids, etc. These guys are so out of touch with real people. I guess they think that we are going to say “OMG he was at work until 11 p.m.!!”


9 posted on 09/27/2008 7:02:41 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: PureSolace

What they need now is Larry the Cable Guy - “Git ‘er done!”

Please!


10 posted on 09/27/2008 7:02:44 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

You tell ‘em, bigbob!! LOL


11 posted on 09/27/2008 7:04:04 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: PureSolace

No bail out.
Arrest and prosecute.


12 posted on 09/27/2008 7:04:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: bigbob
“Git ‘er done!”

Not with one dime for ACORN!

13 posted on 09/27/2008 7:04:53 PM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: PureSolace
What is this about a "Wall Street tax?" These stupid Dems would even tax a dead horse!

This Dem leadership is the worst ever!
14 posted on 09/27/2008 7:06:17 PM PDT by etradervic (America needs a hero - McCain '08)
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To: Mercat
They COULD pass it and the president might sign it but they like being congressmen and if they did that with about 80% of the American public opposing it they would, in one feld swoop, change the dynamic of the impending election. They MUST have Republican votes for political cover!

I think the Republicans actually have the stronger hand in fact.

It remains to be seen whether they play their hand properly.

15 posted on 09/27/2008 7:06:59 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: GVnana

Paulson is a Democrat, so that makes it 10 to 2.


16 posted on 09/27/2008 7:08:21 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I'll back the bailout if Angelo Mozilo lets me borrow his Lamborghini on Saturday nights.)
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To: PureSolace

Market greed caused this catastrophe and greedy marketers ought to fix the problem, not the taxpayer.


17 posted on 09/27/2008 7:08:29 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: PureSolace
The idea of charging large financial firms fees to set up an industry-funded rescue insurance fund was gaining momentum as key House and Senate negotiators continued to meet Saturday evening to iron out the final details of a $700 billion rescue package for Wall Street.

I would think the annual fee should be ten times the CEO's annual salary including stock options and expense accounts.

18 posted on 09/27/2008 7:08:38 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: PureSolace

Isn’t it amazing that the congressionals couldn’t be bothered to help with the drill here/drill now matter.

But here comes a money deal that’s outrageously raping the taxpayers and they’re up there on Capitol Hill working well into the night. Something tells me that they’re doing a lot of posturing and CYAing.

This whole matter stinks. At the very least, I hope we see jail terms for some corrupt politicians and some corrupt financial principals who were responsible for this rape of the American taxpayer.

And we don’t need congressionals standing around telling us that we “don’t understand the machinations of the deal.” That’s the problem — the deal!

And no money for ACORN.


19 posted on 09/27/2008 7:09:24 PM PDT by quintr
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To: Mojave

That is good, more needs to come off. Is Mac there negotiating with them?


20 posted on 09/27/2008 7:09:57 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (WHO NEEDS OPRAH!!!!!)
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To: Diogenesis
No bail out.

Arrest and prosecute.

Probably the plan that 90% of the people would agree with.

21 posted on 09/27/2008 7:10:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: Notary Sojac

This congress is animal insane and Nancy Pelosi works the cattle prod.


22 posted on 09/27/2008 7:12:09 PM PDT by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: PureSolace

Yea. I got an idea. Can we at least split the money 50/50 with acorn and the NRA ?


23 posted on 09/27/2008 7:14:58 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: PureSolace
Will any good come from this?

It's congress. Meeting in the dead of the night behind closed doors. To solve a crisis by spending money.

There's roughly zero chance anything good will come out of this.
24 posted on 09/27/2008 7:35:05 PM PDT by javachip
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To: Perdogg

I agree


25 posted on 09/27/2008 7:42:02 PM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: PureSolace

I think they should have to eat some of that pork they are trying to attach to this.


26 posted on 09/27/2008 7:42:42 PM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: rsobin

then do you declare hunting season on nuts.


27 posted on 09/27/2008 7:47:38 PM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: eeriegeno

>>Market greed caused this catastrophe and greedy marketers ought to fix the problem, not the taxpayer.<<

Something just struck me while reading your comment. Why has the word “GREED” been associated with Republicans and Conservatives? I mean, really, the Republicans (and more specifically CONSERVATIVES) that I know are not living “greedy” lives. Rather, we try to live responsible lives including living within our means and wish the government to do the same.

If anyone has acted greedy it’s the indviduals that wanted to live beyond their means, as well as the “greedy” finaciers on Wall Street that are all too happy to cash in on it. Not too mention the Democrats, whom are all too anxious to acquire more power in all of this mess. Is that not greed as well?


28 posted on 09/27/2008 7:55:17 PM PDT by eCardinal
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To: eeriegeno

Beg to differ, slightly.

This was caused by “feel good” socialist government meddling. Trying to engineer equal outcomes for people rather than focus on equal opportunity, based on core principles and delayed gratification.

This, then, generated almost unlimited credit,regardless of credit worthiness, thus driving up the real estate market.

Now comes inflation, to which the genius Greenspan responded with relentless interest rate hikes, thus killing the real estate market, lowering values to less than the amount owed, causing defaults.......etc, you get the picture.

Here now, the fox, having cleared the hen house, demands protection money to stand guard on the remaining shivering hen.

Thing is, in order to pay the vig, fed needs to print money, hence, more inflation, driving up rates and foreclosing the “opportunity” for taxpayers to benefit from an increase in property values.

Morons all around. Oh, and btw, a constant funding source for the criminal enteprise, Acorn, whose only purpose, by any means necessary, is to ensure democrat victories at the ballot box, ad infinitem. Thus, insuring more socialism and less freedom, therefore less productivity, for us all.

Capitalism is not the culprit here, it’s the potential victim.


29 posted on 09/27/2008 8:27:19 PM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: PureSolace

From a report this week (from NBC):

“Today Democrats showed up at scheduled bipartisan talks, but said they forgot to invite the Republicans.”

I think that gives you an inkling of what the Republicans are up against.

NRO is a good place to track progress - latest info indicates a reasonable bill is taking hold:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/
So it looks like a deal is shaping up

Treasury purchases plus mbs insurance (cantor)

Strong oversight/taxpayer protection

Limits on executive comp

No liberal add-ons (acorn, bankruptcy judges, proxy access)

Govt equity stake likely to be scaled back or dropped. No staff-level enthusiam for it.

Limit on amount of first tranche of money (less than $700 billion)

This deal gets 100 house gop votes


30 posted on 09/27/2008 9:20:13 PM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: eCardinal

Why has the word “GREED” been associated with Republicans and Conservatives? “

Greed is a codeword for free-market capitalism, or at least the horrible acts of commercial intercourse that socialists imagine take place if people are free to transact business as they please. Think ofthe horrors: Some can get ahead more than others! People have to take responsibility for success or failure of their acts and decisions! And worst of all, a pointy headed elitist bureaucrat can’t make them do it all the ‘right’ way!

Your comment makes too much sense to to be intelligible to people who use ‘greed’ as a general pejorative against business behavior and people doing their jobs, and the free-market conservatives who just want productive members of society left alone to create economic value.


31 posted on 09/27/2008 9:26:13 PM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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