Posted on 09/27/2008 6:41:56 AM PDT by ubaldus
Obama's lead in Ras' tracker is now at 6 points (from 5 pts yday and 1 pt a week ago). Since Rasmussen fixes the party ID breakdown at D +5.5, McCain must be trailing with the independents now.
Imo, the only thing which can make it close is a stock market recovery in October. Probably bailout-induced.
its pre-bracelet.
Obama was awful, and it will slowly resonate in the American psyche.
The economy is going to elect Hussein--just like it elected Slick,,,and kept Slick in office.
Hussein is the luckiest man alive, next to Ringo Starr, of course.
This is VERY scary. It really is, and I’m not sure what McCain can do. The MSM won’t even be honest about him winning a debate.
If he wins I am buying a sailboat. Heading for margaritaville... and chilling in the bahamas til the riots calm down. This will be the real life sequal to Atlas Shrugged.
McCain won the debate, imho, I guess the problem is the famous independents are idiots. Their knee jerk reaction that Obama would be “better” on the economy is preposterous. I’ve met people like this, even “moderate republicans” who say republicans are “war mongers” and the democrats are “better for the people”.
oh sh*T
Ross Perot got Bill Clinton elected. Many people were pissed about Bush’s ‘Read My Lips’ broken promise.
The debate was a draw. Perhaps it will stop the slide in the polls - that’s the best scenario.
I hope McCain can make it close, like Ford did in 1976. Then at least there are some recovery scenarios in 2010-2012.
Again, the tanking stock market and the mess on Wall Street is going to elect Hussein. What an unbelievable stroke of luck for someone who isn't qualified to run a 7/11.
Look on the bright side...Obama having the lead makes it less likely he will dump Biden for Hillary.
just saying
When was the last time the MSM ever said a Republican won a debate?
This is not good.
They need to reintro Wright and the rest of the ChiTown thugs in a hurry. Or it could be over.
EQ: How is it that a community organizer with zero business and/or econmmic background is now considered a whiz on the economy?
Im not so sure luck had anything to do with it.
The MSM canNOT give Republicans credit for anything good. It's just not in their DNA.
Just like they canNOT pay for food or drinks WITH THEIR OWN MONEY. They just canNOT do it.
For the first year or so he is not going to run anything. Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Dingell are going to define the financial and energy policy (expect some Climate Change legislation; and a lot of money thrown to delinquent homebuyers).
Don’t know who is going to be in charge the foreign policy aspect, probably Biden and some Slick’s guys Obama will be forced to hire. If this is so, that would actually qualify as good news.
they are saving Wright for the last two weeks, after the debates are done.
Right now, financial news overwhelm any other noise, no point to try any new campaign points till the credit markets are in the tailspin,
I keep hearing supposed independents this morning and after the debates say sh!t like “All McCain did was talk about the past and what he has done and where he has been...very serious...Obama talked about the future and was hopeful...he spoke to me about the issues I cared about”
As I said last night...I love my country to death. But I loathe a majority of the people that reside in it today.
Underlying problem is Obama’s favorables. He doesn’t deserve it but has it in every poll. People should doubt Obama much more, he is a leftist in moderate clothing. Lord knows there have been devastating revelations aboout Obama “God Damn America”, Bill Ayers, most liberal senator, and on and on.
It’s a combo of changing demographics and republican failure to hit democrats hard enough. If a majority think Obama is “good” he’s probably going to win.
Tragic because with a dem Congress he is going to make all illegals legal, ruin Iraq, disappoint our friends and coddle our worst enemies, raise taxes, redistribute wealth, stop oil production, prevent nuclear energy, abandon missile defenses, weaken the military and our nuclear deterrent. Oh yeah and give us a left wing Supremne Court for generations.
For starters.
The Palin effect is wearing off, she is being hammered in every corner of our so called impartial media. To be honest she has not delivered the same type of fight in her interviews that she did at the convention. Not her fault but the truth is her initial effect is wearing off and McCain fumbled the economy ball by not attacking the Democrats as the cause of this mess. If he wants to stick to his tax and earmark theme he needs to expalin HOW it works and contrast that to Obama’s.
It’s not over and if anything it’s time to remind America about the radical associations with Jeremiah Wright and who could possibly be walking in our White House. Get the videos out there....and fight. This is just not over...and lots can happen. McCain by far looked more experienced and the economy does not help....but....Rezko is supposedly singing like a canary from news yesterday and it’s not close to being over....
The midwest will keep Barry out of the White House. I don’t see Barry winning PA and NH, and he’s struggling in MI and MN.
Nobody cares about earmarks now.
After last week, every Joe Schmoe knows that we are about about to create a $700,000,000,000 unsecured credit line to Wall St, and so the number like 10 or 20 bln in annual earmarks no longer sounds impressive.
This talking point must go, or at least be deemphasized.
McCain did a great job of talking about the future as guided by his experience. To idiots that experience is “the past”. Sadly, younger Americans have no use for the older more experienced generation.
Obama recited a lot of empty platitudes, health care, new energy grids, better education. But Obama’s policies on these are crazy or non existent. McCain needed to do more of realizing people were hearing that and exposing Obama on it.
New energy grid to distribute the non existent alternative energies? Think about the huge energy infrastructure of power lines, gas pipelines, fuel trucks, etc. Obama is just going to create an all new one to bring power from the windmills that don’t exist, while preventing use of oil, coal, shale, nuclear. Brother.
There will not be an immediate stock market recovery, bailout or no bailout. That’s life. McCain should not use the traditional Republican nominee playbook of “things are largely hunky dory on our shining city on a hill” (which he all but said in the first segment of the debate instead of taking on Obama). McCain should be crusading for reforms and warning the country about both Obama’s nutty plan and the Democrats in general. He didn’t do it.
I remember the media beating the drum day in and day out for months about how bad the economy was. Every time they had to report some good economic news, they would add :"But XXX is still as bad as ever!" Every. Single. Time.
It was sickening and infuriating and it got Slick elected.
With the truth squad in Missouri and the lawsuit against NRA, do we really think there will be freedom to oppose the Dems in 2012?
"Nevermind that s--t, here comes Mongo!"
What was Rasmussen’s track record in 2004 and more recently? I mean, this guy was the same guy that ran the Portrait of America poll which projected Bush winning in 2000 by 10 points.
“totally irrelevant poll...”
Wasn’t Bush down 6 to Kerry in October ‘04? Didn’t the MSM say the debates debates between Bush and Kerry were a draw?
I agree w/ you - this poll is irrelevant. The only poll that matters is election day.
This is one mission McCain needs to complete successfully. No getting shot down this time or we'll all wind up being tortured for 4 years in the Hussein Hilton.
Look what they have done to the price of energy and now mortgage, credit, banking and the market and not only are they not in jail, they got filthy rich and are now blaming Bush and the market! Don't worry, now they'll fix it. It'll only cost $700 BILLION. Who says crime doesn't pay?
Imagine what they will do to health care and social security, not to mention the Supreme Court with the likely appointments an unopposed liberal President and liberal Congress will select with barely a handful of token conservative republicans to oppose them.
McCain is far from perfect, but he's the only one standing between us and a very bad future.
I didn’t say I was surprised by the media declaring it a “Tie”, I was just stating a fact.
There is a tape of Obama reading from his own book. He says “the world’s in need because of the white man’s greed” or something very close to that and then states that type of sermon is the reason he joined Wright’s church.
Having the dims benefit from the financial mess they and their socialist policies created is akin to paying the fox who has cleaned out the henhouse to run a security detail to prevent further mayhem.
If the roots of this remain invisible it will lay at the door of the so called republican leadership that they have not the stones or the articulation to get the message out.
What a Joke prepare yourself for an Obama Presidency ,Democratic house and Senate.
Anybody who saw the debate knows that McCain took him to school after the first 15 minutes. The media is going to lie that is nothing new and if they keep changing the internals of the polls maybe it will show that odumbo has 101 pct of the votes
McCain is good at getting the race closer in deep blue states, but he needs to forget those left leaning “independents” and hit Obama hard in the next debate, and not just in some
you tube ad.
I was never a big fan of McCain to begin with- he has too much of a history of working with the dems- but I’m disappointed that it looks like BO is going to walk away with this one.
I suppose I can go ahead and vote for Barr now to send a message to idiots in Washington that I’m tired of choosing between lesser evils.
>> do we really think there will be freedom to oppose the Dems in 2012?
these things go in cycles, majorities self-destruct and/or get carried away by economic forces. GOP had a good 12 year run, 1994-2006, British Labor about 10 years in power. Soon both are going to spend some time in the wilderness.
I am not sure about 2012 (who knows, Obama can get lucky on the economy, though I don’t see how); but the Dems will overreach, and they are not going to be on the top forever.
It is preposterous, but if the idiot independents only base their opinions off of NYT editorials and the unchallenged platitudes that came out of Obama’s mouth during the debate, they’ll believe the preposterous and will be just as ignorant as they were before. If they’re functionality illiterate, they’ll just listen to Obama. That’s why McCain should have been on the attack during the first part of the debate. He wasn’t, Obama was.
when you look at other tracking polls (Gallup, Hotline, R2000), Rasmussen is somehwere in the middle.
Any single poll can be off (either methodologically, or due to a bad sample), but right now 4 or 5 tracking polls all agree on Hussein leading by 4 to 7 points.
Until the day after the election where magically, the MSM reported the economy was already getting better! Wow!
I agree.
However, since the country has been moving inexorably 'to the left' for many years now (under both parties),,,,
the real danger is that the movement 'to the left' will now be accelerated.
With Hussein in office---we will have that acceleration ON STEROIDS!! And as we have found--when we move left--it is almost impossible to reverse that movement.
“I suppose I can go ahead and vote for Barr now to send a message to idiots in Washington that I’m tired of choosing between lesser evils.”
Yeah sure, Tech Tom - or as I like to call you, Troll.
Darn right! I get really irritated with conservatives who see everything on our end through rose colored glasses and automatically lampoon everything the enemy is doing instead of paying attention. This is not the 1984 or 1988 election. This isn’t even the 1992 election, but you’re getting warmer if you think it is. The left is treating this like the 1980 election. We cannot afford having the Democrats in control, but we cannot afford another ineffectual Republican running for the presidency either.
Yeah, he’s ahead just like Kerry was ahead. Or Gore.
Hey, it’s the weekend. Time for some football.
The recovery scenario will be someone competent running for the Presidency in 2012 and the Republican minority opposing the Democrats relentlessly up to 2010, assuming they’ll be a position to even do that after the election.
How come I have never been polled?
These polls are a joke and certainly made up to what certain people want them to be.
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