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Rasmussen 9/27/2008: Obama 50% McCain 44%
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Posted on 09/27/2008 6:36:39 AM PDT by CatOwner

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This six-point advantage matches Obama’s biggest lead yet (see trends). Obama is now viewed favorably by 56% of voters, McCain by 54% ...

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KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; electionpresident; mccainpalin; polls; rasmussen
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1 posted on 09/27/2008 6:36:39 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: CatOwner

totally irrelavant poll...

its “pre-bracelet”

Obama was awful last nite...even the MSM this morning is waking up realizing it.


2 posted on 09/27/2008 6:38:19 AM PDT by housedeep
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To: housedeep

Scott’s number been a little off lately.


3 posted on 09/27/2008 6:39:40 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: scooby321

Why? Because we don’t like the results? Before he was the “Gold” standard...


4 posted on 09/27/2008 6:41:08 AM PDT by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: CatOwner

Is Rass losing his mind? Even Gallup hasn’t been as wrong as Rass’s pulse taking method.


5 posted on 09/27/2008 6:41:11 AM PDT by Porterville (Im no economist- getting a PHD in economics wasn't economical... it didn' make cents.)
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To: housedeep

Dude,

lets not deny this stuff. McCain’s is running a lousy campaign so far..Good news is he has time to turn it around. Hillary got her butt whooped when she was nice to Obama..When she started slamming him and fighting she won. If McCain wants to win he will have to forget trying to appeal “Bi-Partisan” and smash Obama over and over with his leftist history. Period. If not, he will lose. Simple


6 posted on 09/27/2008 6:41:23 AM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: CatOwner

If the numbers were reversed people here would be saying how great a poll this was. This is about running even with prior presidential polling years.


7 posted on 09/27/2008 6:42:39 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: CatOwner

We were told that Obama’s poll number would be down today because Tuesday would roll off...and Tuesday was supposedly a very good Obama day. We’ll we now know that was a bunch of b.s.


8 posted on 09/27/2008 6:42:45 AM PDT by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: CatOwner

It’s amazing the way these polls bounce around (amazing to people who read political message boards, anyway, who don’t readily change their opinions of the candidates).

This summer I told a friend of mine: “At some point after the conventions McCain will be ahead. And at some point after the conventions Obama will be ahead.” I could’ve narrowed it down to “At some point in October....” and it would still be a good prediction.


9 posted on 09/27/2008 6:43:31 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: CatOwner

If we were ahead we would love this poll. 6 points sucks and the fact he is at 50% sucks worse. It just SUCKS


10 posted on 09/27/2008 6:43:56 AM PDT by GoCards
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To: GoMonster

I was disappointed last night. When 30 seconds into the debate O launched into the ad hominems McCain should have cleaned his clock with his campaign contributions from the folks that caused the mess. Unfortunately Americans like blood sport and you have to draw some. We prefer strong to nice.


11 posted on 09/27/2008 6:44:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: tatown

Another bad week on the markets, another bank failure or two, and McCain will be trailing by double digits.

Also, Dems will get 58 or 59 senate seats. If bailout is not passed, and things go south, 60 is a real possibility. Gonna be long 4 years. Or is it 8?


12 posted on 09/27/2008 6:45:42 AM PDT by ubaldus
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To: GoMonster

Look out, express a different opinion any you’ll be called a troll and a DU operative on a false flag mission..


13 posted on 09/27/2008 6:46:31 AM PDT by newnhdad (Naval Aviator or "community organizer", you make the call.)
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To: tatown
national poles are MEANINGLESS people....

let Zero take all of NY and all of California, All of Michagan and ALL of Illinois...every single vote....

they are MEANINGLESS....

14 posted on 09/27/2008 6:46:47 AM PDT by cherry
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To: kesg; freedomwarrior998

So what about your theory of Rasmussen showing a move back to McCain today due to Tuesday rolling off? Any thoughts?


15 posted on 09/27/2008 6:47:47 AM PDT by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: GoMonster

Are you remotely serious?

Given the economic condition, a nation at war for 8 years, and trying to succeed an unpopular GOP incumbent preisdent, McCain has run a brilliant campaign, is controlling the narrative week after week, and has incredibly better television ads.

If anyone had told us in March that Mac would be essentially tied with Barry at the end of September, we’d laugh him or her off the forum.


16 posted on 09/27/2008 6:47:56 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: CatOwner

CBS/WAPO poll had Obama by 9 and was an outlier and Rasmussen has him by 6. All other polls are even or within MOE.

I don’t know what to make of it but I am not concerned with one poll even if it is Rasmussen. He is anything but infallible.


17 posted on 09/27/2008 6:48:48 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: cherry

National polls are not meaningless. If Obama were to win by 5 or 6 points, I can asssure you his electoral total would be >300.


18 posted on 09/27/2008 6:49:25 AM PDT by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: tatown

According Ras, Thursday was a very good night for Obama. Frankly, the debates don’t matter as long as the stock market crisis remain headline news. Conservatives are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don’t like the bailout plan, but if no plan passed and the stock market crashes, then Obama wins with a veto proof Dem Congress.


19 posted on 09/27/2008 6:49:48 AM PDT by yongin (Don't get mad at MSM smears. Do GOTV work for Palin)
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To: ubaldus

I heard a senator say this morning that congress plans to pass the bill without Republican votes so that may have an effect on the senate and house races. Depends on how the media spins the democrat bailout I guess. Republicans need to get out in front of this and make sure everyone understands it was a democrat bailout.


20 posted on 09/27/2008 6:53:19 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: yongin

It’s sad because “independents” gulp the kool aid about the economy, even though the dems caused the mess and certainly will not solve it with liberal policies.

But then President Bush is about to push through a plan by workiong with absolute scum like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Sad again.


21 posted on 09/27/2008 6:53:36 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: yongin

Friday must have even been a better night as Tuesday was supposedly either a +7 or +11 night for Obama according to some on here. Some even referred to Tuesday night as an “outlier” since the Obama advantage was so high, yet the average went UP today with that day dropping off...


22 posted on 09/27/2008 6:53:49 AM PDT by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: CatOwner; All

Go back and look at the polls in 2000 and 2004...by this time in both of those campaign cycles — GWB was polling at the same numbers on Rasmussen as McCain is right now — however, hindsight being 20/20...

The simple fact of the matter - IMHO, is, if they posted the honest poll numbers, it would be 60/40 for John McCain and no one would need to watch CNN, FOX, MSLSD, or CSPAN...people would grow apathetic and American Idol would rule the TV.

By publishing skewed poll results — it keeps people interested and watching the TV stations that sell the air time, so that people watch the commercials — for a lot of money...this is the “business” of politics.

Keep people watching...


23 posted on 09/27/2008 6:55:23 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: scooby321

Ras, over samples Democrats for some reason. (39% to 33&)
Which means he must target mostly large population centers.

Modern methods are also less accurate because of the Independent trend that is dominating the public. Polling voters is more difficult because phone lines are dropping in number and communication is dominated by texting, cell phone and computer e-mail.


24 posted on 09/27/2008 6:55:52 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: mwl8787
lets all remember that Zero was pratically a shoe in according to the drivebys for months now...

McCain has done great and I believe he will pull this thing out handsomely....

25 posted on 09/27/2008 6:56:36 AM PDT by cherry
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To: tatown
All,

Well I am shocked that the moderator has yet to lock up this thread. There are two threads going now on Rasmussen. The other one is full of "the sky if falling" talk.

My advice to all is to step back and take a few deep breaths.

26 posted on 09/27/2008 6:56:38 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: ubaldus

No I see only 4-5 seats in trouble:

NH - Ras had Sununu up by 6
CO - Within MR
NM - Gone
VA - Gone
AK - probably gone


27 posted on 09/27/2008 6:57:01 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: CatOwner
The polls are irrelevant. I noticed during the Dukakis/Bush, Clinton/Bush, Bush/Gore, and Bush/Kerry elections that the Democrats were ahead by 5-9% when the Republicans won. Now, the Clinton/Dole/Bush races were different..the gap was in the double digits. IMO this means the Republicans are running even to slightly ahead because of the inherent bias of the polls. It ain't doom or gloom but its close.
28 posted on 09/27/2008 6:57:39 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: mwl8787
If anyone had told us in March that Mac would be essentially tied
with Barry at the end of September, we’d laugh him or her
off the forum.


I certainly would have thought that.
McCain was a political "dead man walking" when he was alone schlepping
his own bags through the airport in Los Angeles.
Not being sacreligious, he did pull off a "resurrection"
during the course of the campaign.

Even though I personally felt that overall last night was effectively
"a draw", with McCain delivering a good case for adults and
Obama winning the style message for the kiddies...
I'm still very impressed that McCain got in good shots and stayed
on the offensive in a reasonable, measured way.

I hope that last night is like one of those battles that is
first seen as "a draw"...but over time is re-considered to have
be the first in a string of wins for McCain.

Best of all...McCain kept his humor and didn't let temper get
the better of him.
But did show that he's still "full of p-ss and vinegar" and has
recall/memory that reflects the staying power of his mother's genetics!
(Oh and his father and grandfather as well, even if they didn't
have all the longevity genes.)
29 posted on 09/27/2008 6:57:51 AM PDT by VOA
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To: yongin
If no bailout plan is passed, there will be runs on banks and bread lines by the election, a prospect that must send shivers down the Dem's spines, (if they have any).

Something should pass.

If this fiasco gets pushed through by Bush, Pelosi and Reid, without Republican support, the House Republicans are given the golden opportunity to run against Congress (18% approval), Bush (28% approval) and that stupid bill (30% approval).

I'd suggest it's a good bet that the Republicans have to get on board unless Pelosi and Reid are even dumber than they look.

30 posted on 09/27/2008 6:58:34 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: AndyJackson
I was disappointed last night. When 30 seconds into the debate O launched into the ad hominems McCain should have cleaned his clock with his campaign contributions from the folks that caused the mess. Unfortunately Americans like blood sport and you have to draw some. We prefer strong to nice.

Indeed! McCain had better bring this up in the next debate. I don't think he was primed for the domestic discussion, but he better have these facts in his arsenal next go around, and he had better use them again and again until Obama gets that grumpy spoiled "how dare you" look on his face.

In the VP debate, Palin had better bash Obama again and again and again on the same topic, plus Ayers, plus ACORN, plus Rezko. Knock Obama off his game. You don't win elections playing patty-cake when the other guy is hacking into you with a machete.

31 posted on 09/27/2008 7:00:51 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: tatown

I find it difficult to believe that undecideds are so fickle. I’m not disputing that it seems Obama is ahead at this point but this poll seems to indicate that possibly 50% of undecideds have flip flopped in only a week. Is that really possible or does it have to do with such a small sampling amongst 120 million voters?


32 posted on 09/27/2008 7:01:25 AM PDT by FJB2
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To: tatown
large populated states will NATURALLY have more poll votes... ....

if a national poll is done properly, those populations are going to reflect that....

AGAIN...IF EVERY SINGLE VOTE IN CALI OR NY GOES TO BAMY, ITS STILL ONLY THOSE ELECTORAL VOTES..

Cali and NY are LONG gone...they have huge illegal immigrant numbers and NY is full of socialist...so be it.....

I'm not talking popular vote ...I'm talking electoral votes...

Bamy still needs 270 even if he takes EVERY SINGLE VOTE IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK...

it is still about the electoral votes...

33 posted on 09/27/2008 7:02:20 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

..and if you look at state polling, Obama is leading there as well.


34 posted on 09/27/2008 7:03:20 AM PDT by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: newnhdad

Here’s the thing, people like you are useless. If you REALLY CARED about this election, and you REALLY wanted McCain to win, you’d be doing something about it, something other than coming on FR every single day, going into every single bad news, or bad poll thread, and telling every single person how bad it looks for McCain.
Yea, we get it. We got it last night in the live debate thread with your ten thousand “OMG MCCAIN SUCKS” posts. Now go do something productive...like volunteer to be a poll watcher, or go knock on some doors, or make some calls for the campaign.
That is....IF you really cared.
It’s constant negativity in your posts, and there’s NEVER anything positive you ever to add to the conversation around here, and is why you get labeled a troll.
Yes, we want reality, but being overly cynical is no more realistic than being overly optimistic.


35 posted on 09/27/2008 7:03:43 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Perdogg

NM, VA, AK are gone.
CO, NH are Dem leans.
OR, NC, MN are tossups at this stage.
MS is lean R, and not locked by any means.

If October is bad for the markets, the Dems can get all 9, that gives them 60. Not likely, but possible.


36 posted on 09/27/2008 7:03:49 AM PDT by ubaldus
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To: CatOwner

Any positive thoughts?


37 posted on 09/27/2008 7:04:45 AM PDT by nclaurel (I think therefore I vote Republican.)
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To: ubaldus

Dole and Coleman will win. NH shows that Sununu has a six point lead and McCain will probably win NH.

OR, CO are trouble, I agree, I don’t see MS turning blue, sorry.

NM, VA, AK are gone.


38 posted on 09/27/2008 7:06:57 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
one thing I don't agree with is about over sampling Rats.....there are more Rats than Pubs...fact of life....that can't be an excuse for the polls....

electoral votes folks...

we have most of the center of the country.....our base...

we've doing good in Ohio and Florida and Virginia....we've taken them before and there is no reason that they won't be in McCains corner come November....

things are not bleak...

this is called OPPORTUNITY!

39 posted on 09/27/2008 7:07:35 AM PDT by cherry
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To: snarkytart

There is a whole little group of these guys they tend to congregate on threads like this, basically to stroke each other as they try oh so hard to convince everyone how bad it supposedly is.


40 posted on 09/27/2008 7:07:47 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Stand Up For Chuck 2008!)
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To: GoMonster

Dude, campaigns look like a mess of batter like the proverbial pre cake bake, it’ll come out of the oven on Nov 4th smelling like memories of Mom’s kitchen.


41 posted on 09/27/2008 7:08:37 AM PDT by lmc12
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To: Williams

Bush allying himself with Democrats in the “wall street bailout” proves he is a liberal. What a freaking shame.

Imagine if Reagan had pulled this crap when George HW Bush was running in 88. It’s insane!


42 posted on 09/27/2008 7:08:46 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: tatown

several poles show different results..you know that...but regardless, the states are the real deal...


43 posted on 09/27/2008 7:10:21 AM PDT by cherry
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To: VanDeKoik

Yes, I’ve noticed he same four or five posters who live in the bad news or bad poll threads.
Interesting.


44 posted on 09/27/2008 7:11:02 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: cherry

I simply go with an average of the polls. RCP has Obama’s electoral total up to 286 w/leaners right now.


45 posted on 09/27/2008 7:11:54 AM PDT by tatown (How to piss off a liberal: Work hard and be happy!)
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To: o2bfree

welcome newbie....like I’ve said in other threads you be sure to stick around for the freepathon, okay, with a nice large contribution....


46 posted on 09/27/2008 7:12:31 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Sooth2222

Today, Mac is back in DC to work on the bailout. While Obama and Biden are campaigning in NC and VA. You’d think Obama and Biden would do their day jobs first.

The bailout just provides temporary relief. Who knows how more financial service companies will go down after the election? If any remote possiblility of Mac winning is gone in a few days, then I am tempted to say Republicans should kill any bailout plan and let the Messiah deal with.


47 posted on 09/27/2008 7:13:18 AM PDT by yongin (Don't get mad at MSM smears. Do GOTV work for Palin)
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To: Perdogg

if Obama is up by 6 or 7 nationally, he will win NC, and then Dole seat is in trouble.

Right now, there is a danger of 2006-like Dem wave.


48 posted on 09/27/2008 7:13:59 AM PDT by ubaldus
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I could be wrong but Ras includes more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats in this country. Additionally, it’s a certainty that that African Americans are going to vote in greater numbers this year because of the historical first that Obama represents. Add to that that instead of the usual 90% of their vote going to the Dems, it’ll likely be 98%. This could count for millions more votes for the Dem. I also have bought into the notion that the youth vote will incrase at least a few % points from 2004. It’s not supposed to be a Republican year based on historical trends.

I hope Ras is including enough Dems in his poll, actually. McCain and the republicans need a clear understanding of what they are up against in the next 38 days.


49 posted on 09/27/2008 7:14:02 AM PDT by FJB2
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To: ubaldus

He’s not.


50 posted on 09/27/2008 7:15:21 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vice President Sarah H Palin - Make it happen !!!!)
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