Posted on 09/27/2008 6:36:39 AM PDT by CatOwner
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This six-point advantage matches Obamas biggest lead yet (see trends). Obama is now viewed favorably by 56% of voters, McCain by 54% ...
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totally irrelavant poll...
its “pre-bracelet”
Obama was awful last nite...even the MSM this morning is waking up realizing it.
Scott’s number been a little off lately.
Why? Because we don’t like the results? Before he was the “Gold” standard...
Is Rass losing his mind? Even Gallup hasn’t been as wrong as Rass’s pulse taking method.
Dude,
lets not deny this stuff. McCain’s is running a lousy campaign so far..Good news is he has time to turn it around. Hillary got her butt whooped when she was nice to Obama..When she started slamming him and fighting she won. If McCain wants to win he will have to forget trying to appeal “Bi-Partisan” and smash Obama over and over with his leftist history. Period. If not, he will lose. Simple
If the numbers were reversed people here would be saying how great a poll this was. This is about running even with prior presidential polling years.
We were told that Obama’s poll number would be down today because Tuesday would roll off...and Tuesday was supposedly a very good Obama day. We’ll we now know that was a bunch of b.s.
It’s amazing the way these polls bounce around (amazing to people who read political message boards, anyway, who don’t readily change their opinions of the candidates).
This summer I told a friend of mine: “At some point after the conventions McCain will be ahead. And at some point after the conventions Obama will be ahead.” I could’ve narrowed it down to “At some point in October....” and it would still be a good prediction.
If we were ahead we would love this poll. 6 points sucks and the fact he is at 50% sucks worse. It just SUCKS
I was disappointed last night. When 30 seconds into the debate O launched into the ad hominems McCain should have cleaned his clock with his campaign contributions from the folks that caused the mess. Unfortunately Americans like blood sport and you have to draw some. We prefer strong to nice.
Another bad week on the markets, another bank failure or two, and McCain will be trailing by double digits.
Also, Dems will get 58 or 59 senate seats. If bailout is not passed, and things go south, 60 is a real possibility. Gonna be long 4 years. Or is it 8?
Look out, express a different opinion any you’ll be called a troll and a DU operative on a false flag mission..
let Zero take all of NY and all of California, All of Michagan and ALL of Illinois...every single vote....
they are MEANINGLESS....
So what about your theory of Rasmussen showing a move back to McCain today due to Tuesday rolling off? Any thoughts?
Are you remotely serious?
Given the economic condition, a nation at war for 8 years, and trying to succeed an unpopular GOP incumbent preisdent, McCain has run a brilliant campaign, is controlling the narrative week after week, and has incredibly better television ads.
If anyone had told us in March that Mac would be essentially tied with Barry at the end of September, we’d laugh him or her off the forum.
CBS/WAPO poll had Obama by 9 and was an outlier and Rasmussen has him by 6. All other polls are even or within MOE.
I don’t know what to make of it but I am not concerned with one poll even if it is Rasmussen. He is anything but infallible.
National polls are not meaningless. If Obama were to win by 5 or 6 points, I can asssure you his electoral total would be >300.
According Ras, Thursday was a very good night for Obama. Frankly, the debates don’t matter as long as the stock market crisis remain headline news. Conservatives are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don’t like the bailout plan, but if no plan passed and the stock market crashes, then Obama wins with a veto proof Dem Congress.
I heard a senator say this morning that congress plans to pass the bill without Republican votes so that may have an effect on the senate and house races. Depends on how the media spins the democrat bailout I guess. Republicans need to get out in front of this and make sure everyone understands it was a democrat bailout.
It’s sad because “independents” gulp the kool aid about the economy, even though the dems caused the mess and certainly will not solve it with liberal policies.
But then President Bush is about to push through a plan by workiong with absolute scum like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Sad again.
Friday must have even been a better night as Tuesday was supposedly either a +7 or +11 night for Obama according to some on here. Some even referred to Tuesday night as an “outlier” since the Obama advantage was so high, yet the average went UP today with that day dropping off...
Go back and look at the polls in 2000 and 2004...by this time in both of those campaign cycles — GWB was polling at the same numbers on Rasmussen as McCain is right now — however, hindsight being 20/20...
The simple fact of the matter - IMHO, is, if they posted the honest poll numbers, it would be 60/40 for John McCain and no one would need to watch CNN, FOX, MSLSD, or CSPAN...people would grow apathetic and American Idol would rule the TV.
By publishing skewed poll results — it keeps people interested and watching the TV stations that sell the air time, so that people watch the commercials — for a lot of money...this is the “business” of politics.
Keep people watching...
Ras, over samples Democrats for some reason. (39% to 33&)
Which means he must target mostly large population centers.
Modern methods are also less accurate because of the Independent trend that is dominating the public. Polling voters is more difficult because phone lines are dropping in number and communication is dominated by texting, cell phone and computer e-mail.
McCain has done great and I believe he will pull this thing out handsomely....
Well I am shocked that the moderator has yet to lock up this thread. There are two threads going now on Rasmussen. The other one is full of "the sky if falling" talk.
My advice to all is to step back and take a few deep breaths.
No I see only 4-5 seats in trouble:
NH - Ras had Sununu up by 6
CO - Within MR
NM - Gone
VA - Gone
AK - probably gone
Something should pass.
If this fiasco gets pushed through by Bush, Pelosi and Reid, without Republican support, the House Republicans are given the golden opportunity to run against Congress (18% approval), Bush (28% approval) and that stupid bill (30% approval).
I'd suggest it's a good bet that the Republicans have to get on board unless Pelosi and Reid are even dumber than they look.
Indeed! McCain had better bring this up in the next debate. I don't think he was primed for the domestic discussion, but he better have these facts in his arsenal next go around, and he had better use them again and again until Obama gets that grumpy spoiled "how dare you" look on his face.
In the VP debate, Palin had better bash Obama again and again and again on the same topic, plus Ayers, plus ACORN, plus Rezko. Knock Obama off his game. You don't win elections playing patty-cake when the other guy is hacking into you with a machete.
I find it difficult to believe that undecideds are so fickle. I’m not disputing that it seems Obama is ahead at this point but this poll seems to indicate that possibly 50% of undecideds have flip flopped in only a week. Is that really possible or does it have to do with such a small sampling amongst 120 million voters?
if a national poll is done properly, those populations are going to reflect that....
AGAIN...IF EVERY SINGLE VOTE IN CALI OR NY GOES TO BAMY, ITS STILL ONLY THOSE ELECTORAL VOTES..
Cali and NY are LONG gone...they have huge illegal immigrant numbers and NY is full of socialist...so be it.....
I'm not talking popular vote ...I'm talking electoral votes...
Bamy still needs 270 even if he takes EVERY SINGLE VOTE IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK...
it is still about the electoral votes...
..and if you look at state polling, Obama is leading there as well.
Here’s the thing, people like you are useless. If you REALLY CARED about this election, and you REALLY wanted McCain to win, you’d be doing something about it, something other than coming on FR every single day, going into every single bad news, or bad poll thread, and telling every single person how bad it looks for McCain.
Yea, we get it. We got it last night in the live debate thread with your ten thousand “OMG MCCAIN SUCKS” posts. Now go do something productive...like volunteer to be a poll watcher, or go knock on some doors, or make some calls for the campaign.
That is....IF you really cared.
It’s constant negativity in your posts, and there’s NEVER anything positive you ever to add to the conversation around here, and is why you get labeled a troll.
Yes, we want reality, but being overly cynical is no more realistic than being overly optimistic.
NM, VA, AK are gone.
CO, NH are Dem leans.
OR, NC, MN are tossups at this stage.
MS is lean R, and not locked by any means.
If October is bad for the markets, the Dems can get all 9, that gives them 60. Not likely, but possible.
Any positive thoughts?
Dole and Coleman will win. NH shows that Sununu has a six point lead and McCain will probably win NH.
OR, CO are trouble, I agree, I don’t see MS turning blue, sorry.
NM, VA, AK are gone.
electoral votes folks...
we have most of the center of the country.....our base...
we've doing good in Ohio and Florida and Virginia....we've taken them before and there is no reason that they won't be in McCains corner come November....
things are not bleak...
this is called OPPORTUNITY!
There is a whole little group of these guys they tend to congregate on threads like this, basically to stroke each other as they try oh so hard to convince everyone how bad it supposedly is.
Dude, campaigns look like a mess of batter like the proverbial pre cake bake, it’ll come out of the oven on Nov 4th smelling like memories of Mom’s kitchen.
Bush allying himself with Democrats in the “wall street bailout” proves he is a liberal. What a freaking shame.
Imagine if Reagan had pulled this crap when George HW Bush was running in 88. It’s insane!
several poles show different results..you know that...but regardless, the states are the real deal...
Yes, I’ve noticed he same four or five posters who live in the bad news or bad poll threads.
Interesting.
I simply go with an average of the polls. RCP has Obama’s electoral total up to 286 w/leaners right now.
welcome newbie....like I’ve said in other threads you be sure to stick around for the freepathon, okay, with a nice large contribution....
Today, Mac is back in DC to work on the bailout. While Obama and Biden are campaigning in NC and VA. You’d think Obama and Biden would do their day jobs first.
The bailout just provides temporary relief. Who knows how more financial service companies will go down after the election? If any remote possiblility of Mac winning is gone in a few days, then I am tempted to say Republicans should kill any bailout plan and let the Messiah deal with.
if Obama is up by 6 or 7 nationally, he will win NC, and then Dole seat is in trouble.
Right now, there is a danger of 2006-like Dem wave.
I could be wrong but Ras includes more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats in this country. Additionally, it’s a certainty that that African Americans are going to vote in greater numbers this year because of the historical first that Obama represents. Add to that that instead of the usual 90% of their vote going to the Dems, it’ll likely be 98%. This could count for millions more votes for the Dem. I also have bought into the notion that the youth vote will incrase at least a few % points from 2004. It’s not supposed to be a Republican year based on historical trends.
I hope Ras is including enough Dems in his poll, actually. McCain and the republicans need a clear understanding of what they are up against in the next 38 days.
He’s not.
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