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Ship Seized by Somali Pirates Carrying 33 Russian Tanks
Associated Press (excerpt) ^
| September 26, 2008
Posted on 09/26/2008 9:52:08 PM PDT by HAL9000
Excerpt -
MOSCOW A Russian warship on Friday rushed to intercept a Ukrainian vessel carrying 33 battle tanks and ammunition that was seized by pirates off the Horn of Africa a bold hijacking that heightened fears about the surging piracy and high-seas terrorism. ~ snip ~
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: africa; armstrade; faina; islam; kenya; maritime; mohammedanism; piracy; pirates; russiannavy; somalia; somalipirates; t72; tanks; tomex; ukraine; ukrspetsexport
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posted on
09/26/2008 9:52:08 PM PDT
by
HAL9000
To: HAL9000
I doubt they could unload the tanks. The AA guns would be a bigger problem.
2
posted on
09/26/2008 9:54:31 PM PDT
by
Hugin
(Mecca delenda est!)
To: HAL9000
3
posted on
09/26/2008 9:54:41 PM PDT
by
SevenofNine
("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
To: HAL9000
I am more concerned about russian tanks...
What will Russians use to hold down their stacks of paper if they lose all of their worthless military equipment?
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posted on
09/26/2008 9:55:00 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(Im no economist- getting a PHD in economics wasn't economical... it didn' make cents.)
To: HAL9000
Stupid question, where were the tanks going?
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posted on
09/26/2008 9:58:47 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Hugin
If the vessel is a RO-RO type, which the Russians have started using in recent years, almost any port facility could unload them.
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posted on
09/26/2008 9:59:30 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Tanks eh...better than thos Toyota “technicals”
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:03:37 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
To: Spktyr
Don’t know if it matters, but is does say it was a Ukrainian ship, so I was assuming a standard merchant ship.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:04:02 PM PDT
by
Hugin
(Mecca delenda est!)
To: Spktyr
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:04:09 PM PDT
by
BGHater
(Democracy is the road to socialism.)
To: Hugin
Typically, Somalian stevedores just hoist them off the side of the ship and let them crash onto the shore.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:04:12 PM PDT
by
HAL9000
("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
To: Spktyr
Stupid question, where were the tanks going?
Kenya.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:05:08 PM PDT
by
Hugin
(Mecca delenda est!)
To: HAL9000
Damn, those must be some big stevadors!
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:06:19 PM PDT
by
Hugin
(Mecca delenda est!)
To: HAL9000; All
The Faina

|
IMO NUMBER |
7419377 |
|
VESSEL TYPE |
RO-RO CARGO |
|
HULL TYPE |
DOUBLE HULL |
|
GROSS TONNAGE |
10.931 tons |
|
SUMMER DWT |
9.019 tons |
|
BUILD |
1978 |
|
BUILDER |
LODOSE VARV LODOSE - SWEDEN |
|
FLAG |
BELIZE |
|
MANAGER |
TOMEX TEAM ODESSA - UKRAINE |
|
OWNER |
WATERLUX PANAMA |
|
VESSEL DETAILS |
|
CLASSIFICATION |
KM* L3 |
| |
LAST SPECIAL SURVEY |
2008 Aug 01 |
|
GENERIC |
SPEED |
15,0 knots |
|
DIMENSIONS |
BREADTH EXTREME |
18,03 m |
| |
BREADTH MOULDED |
18,03 m |
| |
DEPTH |
13,35 m |
| |
DRAUGHT |
6,72 m |
| |
FREEBOARD |
6.640,0 mm |
| |
LENGTH B/W PERPENDICULARS |
152,50 m |
| |
LENGTH OVERALL |
161,37 m |
| |
LENGTH REGISTERED |
161,40 m |
|
TONNAGES |
NET TONNAGE |
3.280 tons |
|
LOADLINE |
DISPLACEMENT (SUMMER) |
13.650 tons |
|
CAPACITIES |
BALLAST |
3.565 tons |
| |
BUNKER |
525,00 tons |
| |
FUEL OIL |
900,00 tons |
|
CARGO |
CARGO HOLDS |
1*6550 m3 1*10025 m3 |
|
STRUCTURE |
BULKHEADS |
5 |
| |
DECKS NUMBER |
2 |
|
ENGINE |
ENGINE # |
2 |
| |
ENGINE TOTAL POWER |
7.654 KW |
| |
PROPELLER |
2-FIXED PITCHED SOLID PROPELLER |
|
COMMUNICATION |
CALL SIGN |
V3EZ2 |
|
HISTORICAL INFO |
PLACE OF BUILT |
SWEDEN |
| |
YARD NUMBER |
179 |
|
HISTORICAL INFO |
|
FORMER NAMES |
since 2007 Apr 23 MARABOU |
|
|
since 2003 Apr 27 LOVERVAL |
|
|
since 1985 Nov 18 MATINA |
|
|
since 1983 May 30 VALLMO |
|
FORMER FLAGS |
since 1996 Aug 06 PANAMA |
|
|
since 1991 Jul 19 LUXEMBOURG |
|
|
since 1991 Mar 26 BELGIUM |
|
|
since 1983 May 30 SWEDEN |
|
|

|
http://www.xvas.it/SPECIAL/VTship.php?imo=7419377&mode=CK
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:09:04 PM PDT
by
BGHater
(Democracy is the road to socialism.)
To: HAL9000
Great it looks like the piracy may soon end when the Russians find out who they are.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:09:30 PM PDT
by
lewislynn
(What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
To: HAL9000
The Russian Navy will not be gentle with the Somali pirates.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:11:44 PM PDT
by
valkyry1
(McCain/Palin 2008)
To: HAL9000
The Russian Navy can't fight-off a bunch of pirates?
Let the Pirate booty comments/pictures begin...
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:12:21 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
(God doesn't wear a wrist watch.)
To: All
Theres gonna be some gun play before this is over. I am predicting a DIRTY HARRY moment, where somebody is gonna make Putins day ;)
It could be fun to let them take it to their port, then sink it at the worst possible place in the channel.
To: Hugin
And what were the tanks to be used for in Kenya?
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:16:05 PM PDT
by
Buchal
([Future bumper sticker] Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul . . .)
To: HAL9000
Lol, welcome back to the world stage mother Russia. This is the world you are helping to create. Get on the side of good and right and we can reduce terrorism together.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:19:24 PM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(NOBAMA - it is for our future)
To: HAL9000
Congratulations to the fathers of the new Somalian Army.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:21:21 PM PDT
by
MediaMole
(If Plan A is to take multiple .338 shots to the back, you really need to come up with a Plan B.)
To: spokeshave
Not really. At least when US forces are attacked by technicals, disabling them can be accomplished with a pistol.
Not so much with tanks.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:26:44 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Hugin
The Ukranians have 7 ROROs in their merchant marine.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:28:34 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: BGHater
Bingo, that’d be it (you saved me the trouble). All it has to do is pull up to a standard commercial dock, and the tanks can just drive off.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:30:05 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: HAL9000
We probably have forces in the area. I wonder what it’d be worth to them to get their stuff back? Maybe keep their hands off the oil pipeline valves?
To: valkyry1
You’re assuming the Russians have a naval unit that can deal with them. Remember, the Moskva, their current Black Sea flagship, was *heavily* damaged by RPG fire from small Georgian gunboats.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:32:13 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Buchal
Re What were the tanks to be used for in Kenya. One is going to be Obama’s half-brother George’s new house.
To: Spktyr
If the vessel is a RO-RO type, which the Russians have started using in recent years In recent years? Clancy had them using one in "Red storm Rising", which was the second book he wrote. Right after "Hunt for Red October". "Storm" was first published 22 years ago.
Soviet Naval Tactics by Milan N. Vego, Published by the Naval Institute Press in 1992 describes Soviet use of them.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:36:41 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: HAL9000
Is everyone who sails the Red Sea so damned dumb that they can’t carry a contingent of soldiers/sailors to kill the pirate bastards?
Our guys can only fire warning shots at 400 yards. Shit, my son was a qualified M249 sharpshooter at a range of 1000 yards. He got a few terrorists in Iraq. No warning shots, only kills. That’s the way it should be.
When are we going to get some balls and take out these SOBS?
To: Spktyr
They might AirDrop some special forces in on them.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:40:06 PM PDT
by
valkyry1
(McCain/Palin 2008)
To: El Gato
I’m talking about Russian export sales. I know they used them for military deployments, but IIRC the use of ROROs to ship their tanks to customers is somewhat new.
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posted on
09/26/2008 10:43:35 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: HAL9000
Why is it, the more I hear and learn about Somalia — the more kindly I regard ethnic cleansing?
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posted on
09/26/2008 11:01:08 PM PDT
by
river rat
(Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: HAL9000
Ship Seized by Somali Pirates Carrying 33 Russian TanksAnd boy, are those pirates' arms tired!
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posted on
09/26/2008 11:14:26 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Looks like I squandered my 401K just in time. Who's the fool now?)
To: Buchal
According to the BBC, the tanks were to be transited through Kenya to Southern Sudan. I suspect they were intended for the SPLA forces which currently are under a fragile ceasefire with the Khartoum government. If that is the case, there may be more to this story than is presented.
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posted on
09/26/2008 11:23:53 PM PDT
by
tanuki
(Summum ius summa injuria. (The more law, the less justice))
To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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posted on
09/26/2008 11:24:29 PM PDT
by
ASOC
(Have a nice day, just don't have it around me (bumper sticker))
To: Buchal
And what were the tanks to be used for in Kenya?
Dictators like their toys.
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posted on
09/27/2008 12:10:33 AM PDT
by
Hugin
(Mecca delenda est!)
To: FreeAtlanta
Whats nice about the KGB getting involved is that they can torture then kill every pirate.
Comrade Robert Fisk shall not utter a word.
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posted on
09/27/2008 12:16:45 AM PDT
by
NoLibZone
(Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' Barney Frank 9-10-03)
To: HAL9000
Why were Russian tanks at sea off the coast of Africa?
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posted on
09/27/2008 2:00:55 AM PDT
by
PureSolace
(God save us all)
To: NoLibZone
Comrade Robert Fisk needs to be tortured and killed as well, the filthy bastard.
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posted on
09/27/2008 2:36:41 AM PDT
by
Levante
To: tanuki
According to the BBC, the tanks were to be transited through Kenya to Southern Sudan. I suspect they were intended for the SPLA forces which currently are under a fragile ceasefire with the Khartoum government. If that is the case, there may be more to this story than is presented.I agree. Those "pirates" might be US Navy SEALS intercepting Russian tanks.
If the "pirates" get away and the ship sinks under mysterious circumstances, it may have been some covert actions on our part.
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posted on
09/27/2008 5:59:42 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: PureSolace
Why were the Russian tanks at see, in a pirate zone, without troops to protect them?
To: Erik Latranyi
It amazes me that the clueless would seek to make pithy comments on subjects they know nothing about and attempt to sound reasonable.
If the BBC reporting is correct and the tanks were destined to be transited through Kenya and ultimately to Southern Sudan it would mean they would be to arm rebel forces. The same rebel forces that US has been sending hundreds of millions of taxpayer money per year. The same rebel forces that have been trained by American pmc’s. America’s modus operandi has been to destabilize the Sudanese government by building up the rebels. Why would they reverse this now?
Anyways the point is moot as further reporting states that these tanks were indeed destined for Kenya as this is a recurring shipment that follows a pattern of past T-72 orders for the Kenyan army.
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posted on
09/27/2008 10:47:56 AM PDT
by
cmdjing
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