Posted on 09/26/2008 10:07:39 AM PDT by Boardwalk
It is going to be a very interesting evening!
details about the bill?
If it has one pork portion and if ANY repubs vote for it I’m outta here.
BTTT
If so, we need to get on the phones immediately and get them to stop this thing.
I don’t anticipate it will be interesting. I anticipate a party line vote passing Paulson’s bailout. Republicans against.
Which version? Who will support it? Are they doing this after McCain left so the MSM can keep saying he had less than nothing to do with it.
Meanwhile, they are now saying Obama “chaired” the WH meetimg and spoke for the democrats, yet Obama gets no blame for the meeting’s failure?
If this ACORN is really getting a chunk of our money under the guise of this “crisis”, there’s got to be a citizen’s march on Washington.
If that’s the case McCain just wasted everyone’s time.
If they cut the 700 bln by 2/3, removed the ACORN stuff, and put the rest as an insurance provision, its is a necessary evil....
What was their source?
Sounds like another Democrat trick with McCain going out of town to the debates.
They better not give them any money.
The Rats have to get something done tonight while McCain is out of town, else he’ll get credit. The House conservatives better not cave ...
And Bush gets rolled by the democrats again
Can’t McCain filibuster
No it's not necessary. If fact, it will make the problem worse.
The American public doesn't understand the 'problem'.
He didn’t waste anyone’s time. He went up there and empowered the Republicans to present a bill that 70% of Americans approve — a private-sector bailout. He can now crow that the Dems refused a nonpartisan debate and pushed through a Wall Street rich-guy bailout, compliments of the US taxpayer. It’s a winner either way. They’re passing that BS bailout. $700 billion going on $5 trillion.
This entier fiasco underscores how broken our political system is. The poision on the left is pathetic, and harmful to our democracy.
Thank God for the House Republican’s!
No details at all about the bill only that it will be by midnight tonight. They just said it a second time.
“The Rats have to get something done tonight while McCain is out of town, else he’ll get credit.”
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I expect nothing will be agreed to until Saturday afternoon at the earliest.
I’ve been away this a.m. and trying to piece things together. So what happened - if the bill hasn’t yet been approved, why is McCain leaving town and going to the debate?
I’m reading news releases but have apparently missed something.
The AP version reads like an Obama press release!
agreed
Well, the initial bill had no pork in it, the second bill had Democrat pork in it, but no GOP pork.
I’m sure the final bill will appease all involved (except the actual people paying for it).
This is true, but I think most Americans are too incurious to find out who caused this mess, or that Dems want to fork over 20% of the money to ACORN, etc. They are against the deal in principle, which is fine, but they need to lay the blame for this mess right where it belongs...squarely at the feet of the Democrats.
Excellent point!
The Democrats don’t need Republican votes to pass a bill. If a Republican votes for it, it’s probably an act of self-preservation.
Americans that have Democratic Seantors and Congressmen need to get on the phone and tell them we do not want the bill as spelled out by Paulson and we are glad that McCain came to town to shed light on it.
Just called my representative Steve King’s office and expressed that I was against the Paulsen Plan with any earmarks.
They have to keep saying a deal is immenent folks are the entire ball of wax collapses ...
It doesn’t get through the Senate without Republican votes.
Maybe you forgot, McCain just did up and go. He was asked by Paulson to come to DC and work with the Republicans. Waste everyone's time, ask the RATS and Obama that screwed it all up. The President, out of cooperation, asked Obama to come also. The RATS set this whole thing up and did not consult the Republicans on the bill. The RATS set it up so any profit we might make will be used for their pet earmarks instead of relief of the deficit or back to the American people. We are almost under communist rule.
Don't forget, that if Lieberman walks across the organizational aisle, Harry Reid is dethroned and McCain becomes the majorty leader. Especially with Tim Johnson in bed in South Dakota.
Welcome to FR.
Here’s the breakdown:
ACORN gets 680 Billion
Frank gets 20 Billion
Fox reporting they need to get something done before the Asian markets open Sunday.
Midnight tonight folks.
oh Lord, please don’t allow the republicans to kiss the backsides of democrats. keep them from bowing to the pressure by democrats to pass such an evil bill. please help to expose democrats for what they are.
IMHO
Not if it is a better bill than before.
Whould like to know WHO informed FOX NEWS that a deal WOULD BE REACHED by midnight! Harry Reid, perhaps?????
“The AP version reads like an Obama press release!”
It’s just incredible, reading all the MSM stories today, McCain’s mere presence stops all progress, democrats are faultless, this enormous deal must be passed immediately, Obama is a superstar, McCain a zero. It’s relentless.
Meanwhile, the American people don’t want this deal and $700 billion ain’t peanuts.
Think about it for a minute. Why in the hell would the House GOP cave on this? They are in the catbird seat! The 'rats won't pass anything without majority GOP support because they don't want to be the ones passing out 700 billion taxpayer dollars when 80% of the American public is loudly opposed.
If there's a deal at midnight it will be based on the House GOP plan!!!
/mark
Okay, here is what happened.
They have both sides a set of principles from which to move forward in negotiation.
That is why McCain said he decided to go to the debate, after which he will return back to Washington.
There is no done deal here on any bill, just a way to move forward here.
This does not mean the Dem bill will be approved.
Wait and see what transpires this afternoon.
It’s because there are many financial institution failures to be made known Saturday/Sunday (can’t keep them secret any longer), and they want to have some plan announced before those announcements.
Alternatively, some financial institutions are “hanging on” this week, knowing they can hide their issues until this weekend; hoping the Fed will buy up their bad debt and keep them from failing from 1) bad business decisions and 2) Congress pressing them for years to loan to anyone who needs it.
Get ready folks.
Bend over and grab you ankles, here it comes!
This is such BS, any markets stupid enough to fall on Monday will rise again Tuesday, Wedmesday or Thursday when a deal is completed. Paulson and Bernanke are fanning this crisis into a 24 hour emergency because they can’t let their plan go down in defeat.
Most of my frustrations stems from the fact that the press is going to win this election for Obama.
Everything will be spun to look good for him and the 20% of the country that can’t decide for themselves will swallow it whole.
But wait! Didn’t the Honorable Mr. Reid said there would be no vote tonight? So there would be no conflict?
You don’t think he might have.... misspoken, do you?!
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How so? The poster you responded to was opining that the bailout would pass on party lines and not with Republican support.
Even if the poster is correct which we won’t know until the details are released, why do you think the RATS have been clamoring for Republican cover? If it’s such a marvelous bill in the first place wouldn’t they publically support it without desiring republican support as well?
The answer of course, is no. They know the Paulson bill is very unpopular. McCain not only demonstrated leadership in getting to DC to hammer out what will hopefully be more acceptable (although not pain-free) bill and now returns to the campaign schedule.
Nobody’s time was wasted and despite the media’s attempt to say otherwise, McCain acted like a leader. Although I haven’t agreed with McCain on many things through the years, I give him credit for having a pair of brass ones on suspending his campaign and getting to DC.
And now, we all wait for the details.
Yeah I’ve got a sick, sinking feeling that we’re getting sold out.
We’re about to buy a trillion dollars worth of unknown, opaque mortgage paper.
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