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DNC and Obama Move to have Case Dismissed
YouTube Video ^ | 9/25/08 | Revski

Posted on 09/25/2008 4:32:09 AM PDT by Revski

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To: Waco
Can one or more states refuse to put him on their ballots? Based on failure to produce a birth cert.

No. None of the other candidates for president in the past have had to provide their's.

21 posted on 09/25/2008 5:38:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Be Free
If the facts were on your side, which would you do?

Number 2 was the choice taken by McCain's people when faced with that bogus lawsuit in California over his citizenship status. They moved that the suit be dismissed because the plaintiff lacked legal standing. The judge agreed with them. The suit was dismissed. The same tactics Obama is using here.

22 posted on 09/25/2008 5:43:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I hate the media. I hate them, hate them, hate them, hate them. Can you imagine if this was a Republican??


23 posted on 09/25/2008 5:48:55 AM PDT by Proud 2BeTexan
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To: doodad
Can you imagine if there was even a hint that Palin was born in Canada? Every show and paper would be pounding relentlessly

Bingo.

24 posted on 09/25/2008 5:53:51 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Obviously, liberals can't handle a strong, independent woman.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
With respect, there were two elements to the judge's ruling, including affirmation that McCain passes the citizenship requirements of the Constitution.

All of the documentation proving the circumstances of McCain's birth were available, or made available, making the basis of the suit moot.

The judge went on to rule that the plaintiff additionally lacked standing because he was not subject to actual or imminent harm. The judge opined that the plantiff's preferred candidate (Alan Keyes) had no realistic chance of prevailing, which was pointed out to solidify the argument of no potential harm.

To me, this might imply that only an opposing candidate would have standing, and then only after the electoral votes were counted.

As this is new legal ground, it's not clear how another court might rule, or what could happen on appeal if this were followed as precedent in the Berg case.

If this is to be resolved in advance of the general election, it would seem that this could/should be pursued as a ballot qualifications question. This, or course, assumes such ballot laws require that only those that meet the Constitutional requirements for the office can be placed on a ballot. Otherwise, the Gore-Florida fiasco is going to look like a tea-party compared to what would happen if this can only be raised after the election.

25 posted on 09/25/2008 6:29:37 AM PDT by Be Free (Liberalism is a disease.)
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To: MortMan
It is hard to believe but America is being mislead and I hope our Judicial system has enough boldness to insist on the evidence of a legitimate birth certificate.
26 posted on 09/25/2008 7:11:58 AM PDT by Revski
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To: doodad

So true. :(


27 posted on 09/25/2008 7:13:05 AM PDT by Revski
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To: Non-Sequitur
There was never a legal challenge to the eligibility of either Kerry or Bush. Our Constitution has eligibility requirements, how else are these requirements to be enforced except by the rule of law?
28 posted on 09/25/2008 7:17:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: doodad
I think back in the 19th century there were people who tried to claim that Chester Alan Arthur was born in Canada (his generally-accepted birthplace was in northern Vermont). His father was a native of Northern Ireland; his mother was born in the US.

Palin would be a natural-born citizen anyway based on her parents' places of birth--her genealogy is online and shows that her American ancestry goes back to the "Mayflower."

Somehow the MSM hasn't tried to use that against her...yet.

29 posted on 09/25/2008 7:18:03 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: meyer
Is this what America wants? Cults lead people to suicide because they do not listen to what is right, that is to read and check things out for themselves instead of what some leader comes up with out of his or her head. SAD! :(
30 posted on 09/25/2008 7:18:17 AM PDT by Revski
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To: Waco

I do not have that knowledge but it sounds like American law.


31 posted on 09/25/2008 7:19:54 AM PDT by Revski
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To: Be Free
I would as fat as possible show my American credentials. Especially a true birth certificate.
32 posted on 09/25/2008 7:23:33 AM PDT by Revski
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To: politicalmerc

I hope Berg will push it to know end.


33 posted on 09/25/2008 7:26:03 AM PDT by Revski
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To: allmendream
There was never a legal challenge to the eligibility of either Kerry or Bush. Our Constitution has eligibility requirements, how else are these requirements to be enforced except by the rule of law?

The easiest way to solve this is for someone, anyone to provide any evidence that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. Where is it?

Until then it's a non-issue. There is no law requiring Bush or McCain or Obama or any other candidate to present their birth certificate to any federal agency or official. That's just the way it is.

34 posted on 09/25/2008 7:27:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Be Free
Subject matter jurisdiction (or any jurisdiction) is ALWAYS a question to ask any court. It is not an “obscure” legal theory. Court in the country with the exception of the Untied States Supreme Court DO NOT have automatic jurisdiction. YOU have to give it to them.
35 posted on 09/25/2008 7:27:40 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: mikey_hates_everything
The birth certificate from NoBama was shown on youtube and did not look like any birth certificate that come from the great state of Hawaii.
36 posted on 09/25/2008 7:28:50 AM PDT by Revski
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To: Revski
Rather than cough it up and make total fools of the enemy, a definite PR +, they are fighting it. VERY INTERESTING
37 posted on 09/25/2008 7:38:30 AM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: Non-Sequitur

No law requiring it? How about the Constitution?

Obama’s elegability has been challenged. An American citizen has legal standing to challenge it.

From Article I of the U.S. Constitution:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.


38 posted on 09/25/2008 7:40:32 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: Revski
"When I applied for S.S. Retirement you have to produce a original copy of your birth certificate from the state of which you were born."

When I got married overseas I had to produce documentation to the U.S. Embassy that I was a U.S. Citizen. I provided them with my military ID. They stated that was not proof as foreign national can enlist. I advised them I was not "enlisted" but "commissioned" and only US citizens can receive commissions...I had to provide a birth certificate to receive my commission.

Apparently DOD documentation was not adequate proof for the State Department and I still had to write back home for a(nother) certified copy of my birth certificate.

Apparently Senator Slim Shady, Democrat from Indonesia, is above making such efforts to prove his eligibility for POTUS.

39 posted on 09/25/2008 7:41:39 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: j_k_l
"One post there claiming that Palin was born in Canada and it would be the top story across the networks. "

She claims Sand Point, Idaho as birthplace, which is in Northern Idaho, just down the road from...........CANADA!

Maybe we can hire Dan Rather to do some subcontracting for us and get some of those over the transom custom papers done.

40 posted on 09/25/2008 7:44:03 AM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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