Oh dear G_d... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Posted on 09/22/2008 9:52:51 PM PDT by Chet 99
On Nov. 5, the presidential election winds up in a electoral-college tie, 269-269, the Democrat-controlled House picks Sen. Barack Obama as president, but the Senate, with former Democrat Joe Lieberman voting with Republicans, deadlocks at 50-50, so Vice President Dick Cheney steps in to break the tie to make Republican Sarah Palin his successor.
"Wow," said longtime presidential historian Stephen Hess. "Wow, that would be amazing, wouldn't it?"
"If this scenario ever happened, it would be like a scene from the movie 'Scream' for Democrats," said Democratic strategist Mary Anne Marsh. "The only thing worse for the Democrats than losing the White House, again, when it had the best chance to win in a generation, but to do so at the hands of Cheney and Lieberman. That would be cruel."
(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...
Ya! The dems think they hate Cheney now. Huh! That’d be fun.
That would be GREAT! Wow would I have fun for the next four years. I would just walk around wearing a T-Shirt that said ‘Rove-Cheney-Palin - Any Questions?”
LOL!
lol
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Doomsday for the DNC if that ever happened.
Truely, the oddest couple that would make....
It would be especially funny if Obama got a plurality of the popular vote. Well, except for the rioting that would occur in Philly, DC, LA, Cleveland, Detroit ...
Let’s just skunk ‘em.
The one flaw with this scenario is that RINO jerk Chuck Hagel would almost certainly vote for Biden.
Hey this sounds a hell of a lot easier than rigging all those Diebold voting machines, let’s do it!
I hope it happens. Darth Cheney rules! All Hail our Dark Lord who’s name incites girly hissy fits in libs. Well, when McCain wins, might as well place Dick Cheney as our UN Ambassador.
I thought that the new House and Senate are sworn in before the new President is inaugurated, and since the Democrats are (as of the last time I read anything on the subject) supposed to strengthen their lead in both bodies, I don’t think that would help the GOP and McCain at all.
“Or try this one on for size: Neither the House nor the Senate fulfills its constitutional duty to select the president and the vice president by Jan. 20, so House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, becomes acting president until the whole mess is sorted out.”
It does not sound “Great” to me.
-PJ
Chances of it happening are slim, but oh wow talk about high popcorn factor.
Wow! Maybe it’s not really all that far-fetched.
You hope that Barack Obama becomes President?
Good Luck to you.
The Mother of all Kharmas! LOL! I wish we could MAKE it happen!
OK, let’s just make it easier on everyone and have McCain/Palin win in a huge landslide..... maybe Obama can win Mass. and DC, that’s it! :^)
HA! a 269 tie? In their dreams.
Twelfth Amendment. House picks the Prez, Senate picks the VP. If the House Deadlocks, the VP becomes president. If the Senate deadlocks, Prez names new VP under rules for 25th Amendment.
Oh dear G_d... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
-PJ
Hide all sharp objects if this happens. McCain wins, Blue Dog Dems won’t want 0bama as President.
-PJ
Unfortunately, it's 27-21-2 in favor of the Democrats.
I have the same question about delegations, though. I think we may have 27 house delegations, but I’m not sure.
My Guess is that Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel and Olympia Snow would not vote for Palin.
According to Wikipedia, dems control 23 state’s legislature, GOP controls 13, 13 are split and on is nonpartisan (Nebraska).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_legislatures_in_the_United_States
So winning on this basis is NOT a safe GOP prospect. Call this Plan B.
So scratch Plan B, go back to Plan A and win it outright.
We all know there would only be chaos if the GOP had the House advantage!
It’s not going to be tied anyway.
The 12th Amendment clearly authorizes the Senate to pick a VP if no candidate wins a majority of the electoral college.
That's a list of who controls state legislatures. What I needed was a list of who controls each state in the US House. In the 109th Congress the good guys controlled 29-21. In the 110th someone posted that the Dems have 27. However, I don't think either number matters, because won't the new House be sworn in before the votes are counted? Just have to win the House back.
According to my stochastic analysis of Rasmussen, today's battleground state polls that he released puts the Electoral College vote at 271 McCain. Swinging 1% of polling from Obama to McCain puts the count at 297 McCain.
-PJ
Then there’s the question of what happens if an elector changes his mind.
could this really happen?....do we have enough Pub Senators?....
goodbye to the Bush's finally...sorry, Jeb...you're probably the best of them, but your dad and your brother screwed us over....
“That number is not correct.
That’s a list of who controls state legislatures. What I needed was a list of who controls each state in the US House. In the 109th Congress the good guys controlled 29-21. In the 110th someone posted that the Dems have 27. However, I don’t think either number matters, because won’t the new House be sworn in before the votes are counted? Just have to win the House back.”
Thanks for correcting me (I thought I was posting what was requested).
Dems currently have 27, GOP 21 and 2 unaccounted for in Wikipedia tabulation. I would classify prospects for GOP going from 21 to 26 as slim.
Bush has done more harm than good, for the GOP in his terms. He has been the party leader.
McCain has a better chance to win outright, than to retake 5 states’ for GOP majorities. IMO.
Never happen. If Lieberman did that, the Donks wouldn’t let him caucus with them anymore. LOL!
Okay, I’ll play. Obama is elected Pres and Palin is V.P. under this scenario. Then it is proven that Obama was not born in the U.S.A. and Palin becomes Pres. Wow, that would be cool!
This wouldnt work since the Dems will almost certainly gain seats in the new session of the senate giving them plenty of room for error.
They apparently do not understand how the House picks the president. There are 50 votes. Each state gets a vote.
Deleware for another example has only one and he belongs to the GOP. So I would presume he would vote McCain, but who knows. The current count is 26 Dim, 20 GOP and 4 split now. But there are lots of one Rep states that could change.
This article discusses it much more clearly than the one from this thread:
http://www.observer.com/2007/if-house-picks-president-08
We could also lose one of the Maine Senators. They would be offered a TON for it in exchange for their vote. Possibly G. Smith too.
The current contract at Intrade is at 4%. If anyone thinks the chances are greater than that and they’re right, they can make money. Of course, there’s money to be made shorting it as well, but not much.
Electoral College Tie
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