and the RATS, take another one in the.................................HA ha!!!
Posted on 09/22/2008 4:11:34 PM PDT by Dog
Ethan Winner Responds: Claims He Produced Video Ethan Winner responds. Written like a VP in a public relations firm that specializes in crisis management and grassroots organization. I'll post the whole thing below.
He produced the video? He paid for the voice-over narration which he found through a talent agency? The voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign?
Uh, yeah, right.
He then goes on to sidestep the question of the lie he puts forth in the video: that Palin was a member of the Alaskan Indepence Party -- which she wasn't. That is empirical fact.
Instead, in his carefully crafted explanation of the video, he claims she once attended the party's convention and that her husband was a member. But that's not what the video claims. The video claims she was a member. That is a lie.
I take it back, this sounds more like the company lawyer, Justyn Winner, crafted the response. You don't defend the lie, instead you talk about everything but the lie. It might work to confuse juries Justyn, but come on dude!
Do I find his response hard to believe. Yes I do. I would especially note the carefully crafted future tense usage for when he will pay the voice over artist.
It's almost .... Clintonesque.
So, he produces the video. He pays for the video production -- out of his own pocket. He then posts it to YouTube using multiple phony identities.
Then he gets his friends at one of the largest PR firms in the world to post it on the internet, to suggest to others that they pass it on, and spend company time defending the outright lies in the video --- all for free?
And the multimillionaire who is President of the firm also spends his free time defending the lies on his "homemade" -- yet professionally voiced over -- video?
Hey Ethan, with that business savvy no wonder you were forced to rent out the family yacht! Maybe it's time to also get rid of those courtside seats.
Statement of Ethan Winner The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.
I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
Please, do not harass Ethan or his family. I purposefully did not link to pictures he posted of his familly for that very purpose.
Note how the victims now throw themselves under the bus ....to save the Obama camp the trouble.
Chicago thug politics. Thugs depend on there being no one left standing. Too bad they don’t know about the Internet.
He will be remembered well in the Marxist eternity of the egalitarian society to come.
What a poor and pitiable idiot dupe. I’d like to present him with a motorized spinning sword.
Over here...
Thanks for posting this!
It’s The Chicago Way (with a sprinkling of Alinsky and a side order of ACORNS)
TOOL.
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He is as stupid as the one who claims to be the father of John Edwards love child. Don’t these people realize they are just drinking the KoolAid?
They got caught and the spinning begins. I think I found the voiceover actress. Why would someone in Los Angeles go all the way to Chicago to hire her? Oh, what a coincidence. David Axelrod is in Chicago running Obama’s campaign.
I think this is the actress - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2087965/posts
Freepmail.
Well, I guess if Sarah was an independent, then Obama better quit saying that McCain will be the next Bush/Cheney term?
Freepmail Doug
Props to the Jawa for busting this loser’s a**!!
This is the high powered intellect that is running 0’s campaign? Hey, Ethan, Dude, you’re running a national campaign that is burning like $20,000 per minute. And you waste your time with this amateurish stuff. Man you need to get a life.
backatacha :)
oh yes, of COURSE his family was threatened. (clearing throat) I believe him.
Thousands wouldn’t, but I do. cough cough!
Didn't even try to conceal their involvement, either. That's the part that I find surprising. Maybe this PR firm is so big and diverse that the guys on the letterhead don't fear the boycotts and other negative blowback that could peel away some clients.
Ping for update on the Axelrod Slime Machine.
These guys think they are so clever- assuming everyone on the right is busy praying, cleaning our guns or nursing our bitterness:)
Rusty gave the link to this post - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2087965/posts
I sent him the heads up on Kaywood earlier today by email.
Ah yes, the old "turn this back onto the nutty Conservative crowd" trick.
Lies, and damnable lies!
ES Winner just had his @ss handed to him on a plate. Nicely done Jawa!
I’m sure the Washington Post will be interested in printing this in their paper just like they let Danielle Allen write about those nasty Obama internet smears. /s
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/27/ST2008062703939.html
What personal info?! Other than his name and the firm’s name.
Ok, I guess a real super anal whackjob could dig up the rest if they wanted to...but I really doubt the claim.
The innernets is a b*tch, ain’t it?
Who would even know his family or their number? He must have a very inflated ego to thnk everyone knows he and his family!
Ethan is projecting. Harassing and threatening is the behavior of his circle of jerks. They’re liberals. It’s what they do.
Just think of what Todd & Sarah Palin's family is having to go through, due to the likes of him and his fellow Trotskyites, Obama and Axelrod.
I’m impressed at how thoroughly they nailed this guy.
Smear videos against Palin linked to Obama campaign.
Note how the victims now throw themselves under the bus ....to save the Obama camp the trouble.
how true lol!
It's still on Google Video.
The AssholeRod slime machine also is responsible for websites and hackers on a mission to harass and lie about Larry Sinclair as well.
I sure hope this gets investigated. The money trail will be easy enough to follow. I hope the voice-over lady, whoever she is, takes measures to protect herself from the Obama Underground, her testimony would be key.
Hey, Ethan, I think you might have just made an illegal campaign contribution. How much is the value of your services? How about the actress? That is an in-kind contribution, pal, besides being a slimy dirty trick.
Laugh of the day!
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2008/09/axelrod-called.html
So now “freedom of speech” includes slander and lies?
According to Jawa, the videos were pulled from the net and sites sanitized “within an hour” of the story being posted.
So I guess all those “threatening emails and phone calls” happened for about 5-15 minutes, huh?
Now, that’s funny.
Thanks much for posting this!!
Not nit-picking here-- just trying to improve the effectiveness and readability of our discourse...
It would be helpful if we all employed the <blockquote> <blockquote> HTML anchor pair when quoting others. Doing so would have clearly separated your comments from Winner's weasel-words:
<SNIP...>
Hey Ethan, with that business savvy no wonder you were forced to rent out the family yacht! Maybe it's time to also get rid of those courtside seats.
Statement of Ethan Winner:
<blockquote>
The following is in response to questions I have received regarding the post on the Jawa Report website.I produced and posted on the Internet the video entitled "Sarah Palin: A Heartbeat Away."
The idea for the video was mine. No one paid me to produce it. The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice.
Neither the Obama campaign nor any independent political action committee has had a connection with the making and/or posting of this video. Just like the thousands of Americans who have posted videos on the Internet regarding the current Presidential campaign, I produced this video as an expression of my right to free speech, which is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
I believe the American people have a right and a need to know information about candidates for political office and their views. I made this video because I think it is important for the public to be aware of the association between Sarah and Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party. The New York Times has reported that the Alaskan Independence Party website describes the party as seeking, in the words of the party, "a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority," including "advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska."
While a number of media outlets have said that reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party may have been erroneous, her attendance at the party's 1994 convention, her video speech to the 2008 convention and her husband's membership in the Alaskan Independence Party have not been called into question.
Some people have asked why I have pulled the video from the Internet. The reason is simple. Following the posting of personal information about me by the Jawa Report, my family began to receive threatening and abusive phone calls and emails.
</blockquote>
Please, do not harass Ethan or his family. I purposefully did not link to pictures he posted of his familly for that very purpose.
FWIW, I also felt the use of the italics tags helped the readability. YMMV...
Thanks again for the post!!
AWESOME WORK!! LAME RESPONSE....lol
Now what? Has anyone turned them into the SEC yet? We have an admission that just doesn’t hold much water.
bfl
Prove it, Ethan. Otherwise, it's just another lie.
It's almost like he is a Chicago politician.
bttt
Yes, if you are contracting with someone from your COMPANY/AGENCY and your company has a track record with them, then sure, they may provide work on a credit/invoice basis. But if an individual called them out of the blue and wanted work done purely as an individual, especially for a YouTube type of video...... the job coming not from a recognized firm or agency, I find it extremely hard to believe that either her talent agency or the voice-over narrator herself would say "sure, we'll do the work for you now and maybe in a few weeks or months we'll get around to sending an invoice and maybe hope to get paid....." It just doesn't work that way, unless the "talent agency" was contacted by a PR Firm or similar entity and was not concerned about receiving payment...... this whole think stinks.... here again is what this bozo wants a gullible media and public to swallow:
"The only out-of-pocket cost will be the fee for the voice-over narrator, which I will pay personally when I receive an invoice. Contrary to the allegation in the Jawa Report, the voice-over artist has never done any work for the Obama campaign. I retained her through a talent agency based solely on the quality of her voice."
Why do I find it hard to believe a word out of Mr. Winner’s mouth? Is it because I’ve heard mealy-mouthed obfuscation out of Democrat’s mouths for many years?
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