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FOX News/Rasmussen Poll: Race in Swing States Mirrors 2004 Election
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Posted on 09/22/2008 3:13:16 PM PDT by Chet 99

Results from four of the five battleground states in the FOX News/Rasmussen Reports polling are similar to the presidential election four years ago. Virginia, however, is more competitive than it was in 2004.

Polling this week in Florida and Ohio shows little net change from the previous week with McCain holding a very modest advantage in each state. McCain and Obama both increased their level of support slightly in each as the number of undecided/third party voters declined by three points in each.

In Florida, McCain is in the lead by five percentage points, 51% to 46%. In Ohio, McCain is also ahead, 50%, to 46%.

Pennsylvania and Virginia also showed little change this week, but both of these states shifted slightly back in the direction of their historic voting patterns after being tied a week ago. Now, Obama is up by three in Pennsylvania (48%-45%) and McCain is up by two in Virginia (50% to 48%).

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; election; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainpalin; obama; poll; polls; rasmussen; swingstates; va2008
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1 posted on 09/22/2008 3:13:16 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

I think PA is there for the taking for McCain. Kerry I think won there by 130,000 votes, 52 to 48%. Obama will not poll as well as kerry did. McCain better than Bush. So PA should flip to McCain this time.


2 posted on 09/22/2008 3:15:15 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: Chet 99

let’s hope we end up with the same result.


3 posted on 09/22/2008 3:15:36 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Chet 99

This is good news. McCain is set for a swing toward him just like Bush. I still believe McCain is headed for a much bigger electoral victory than Bush. We just need to get out there and get out the vote.


4 posted on 09/22/2008 3:15:36 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Chet 99
McCain is still on track to capture the EC. He just needs to get Colorado firmly back into his camp.

By November, I think they will be there.

5 posted on 09/22/2008 3:15:53 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Maelstorm

Great points.


6 posted on 09/22/2008 3:16:30 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Chet 99

It’s ALL coming down to Friday night...

If McCain can get Obama off-message and flustered, or even better yet, ANGRY, this election is OVER....


7 posted on 09/22/2008 3:17:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: Chet 99

Where’s CO?


8 posted on 09/22/2008 3:17:31 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

Don’t know, but these are good results considering that McCain has just had what may be the worst week of his campaign.


9 posted on 09/22/2008 3:19:09 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: tcrlaf

Obama needs to do well Friday night just because the next debate Americans will watch Palin wipe the floor with Biden. After that he won’t be able to get them back.


10 posted on 09/22/2008 3:19:12 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Maelstorm

“...McCain is headed for a much bigger electoral victory than Bush. We just need to get out there and get out the vote.”

You’re right but...

I think the FRAUD will be greater than it ever has been.

WE need to vote AS MANY times as the dims.

;^)


11 posted on 09/22/2008 3:19:43 PM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Chet 99

All “likely” voters.

McCain/Palin very competitive.

Hopefully, McCain can make the sale at the debate as he did at Saddleback and the Convention.


12 posted on 09/22/2008 3:19:59 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: Maelstorm

Voted early in GA. One warning from my very limited observation in one Courthouse, the black folk are coming out. No question as to who they are voting for. Will not matter in GA, but it will in the close states. Get out and vote and get all your like minded friends and family.


13 posted on 09/22/2008 3:21:14 PM PDT by rlbedfor
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To: mainepatsfan
Obama needs to do well Friday night just because the next debate Americans will watch Palin wipe the floor with Biden.

First off, I wouldn't count on it. Secondly, even if she does outperform Biden, do you really believe it will be reported that way? I remember watching Lazio seriously outperform Shrillary, only to have the media freak out over him invading "the world's strongest, smartest woman's" space.

14 posted on 09/22/2008 3:24:11 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: impeachedrapist

It won’t matter how its reported. The American people are going to watch these debates...probably more then they ever have before. They will make up their own minds.


15 posted on 09/22/2008 3:28:14 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Michelle Obama...Queen of the Damned (courtesy of CougarGA7))
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To: Norman Bates
Where’s CO?

Fox and Rasmussen are polling those same five states every week up until election day. I sure would like to see them add Colorado to their list as well.

16 posted on 09/22/2008 3:29:38 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: tcrlaf
It’s ALL coming down to Friday night...

Not really. Bush never really scored a knockout punch in any of his debates vs. Kerry or Gore. He still won. They basically undid themselves with their arrogant elitism (funny thing, for "C" students). Obama can't help but revert to his elitist, head tilting self when McCain starts to land a few punches. Without the security of his teleprompter, he will be his own undoing.

17 posted on 09/22/2008 3:33:17 PM PDT by montag813
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To: NoGrayZone

:-) Sorry, but as much as I want to believe that, it’s really not how it works.


18 posted on 09/22/2008 3:34:11 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: Chet 99
Virginia seems to keep slipping back towards Obama as I keep hearing on Lynchburg / Roanoke area local central Virginia newscasts. Perhaps, seeing record voter registration is the reason?.

Arlington county is processing a record 1,000 applications a week. There's been an especially dramatic increase in young applicants thanks to "Rock the Vote" at college campuses. The City of Alexandria has broken all of its records, with nearly 12,000 new voters. It's the same in other northern Virginia jurisdictions. Since the start of the year. Fairfax has registered an unprecedented 25,000 voters. Prince William County numbers are up more than 13,000 and Loudoun County has more than 11,000 new voters. Reporter said: "Virginia is a swing state. There's been a dramatic increase in absentee ballots too.

19 posted on 09/22/2008 3:36:59 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

Your lips to God’s ears. All I know is that several polls have McCain down in Virginia. He loses Virginia the game, and perhaps the nation as we know it, is over.


20 posted on 09/22/2008 3:37:49 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: rlbedfor

And we can’t forget the dead, double, made up, and illegal voters that will be coming out too.


21 posted on 09/22/2008 3:37:50 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: xkaydet65
Could be. McCain has blow it big time on the financial crisis. So we'll have to see how the debates pan out. Still upbeat, got to stay positive in these dark days.
22 posted on 09/22/2008 3:40:45 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: Geist Krieger
I'm very skeptical that these "new voters" are actually going to show up to vote.

If they do, then their sheer number could overwhelm McCain and give Obama the victory. It would be unprecedented though, and my guess is their numbers will not be nearly as great as what is anticipated on election day.

23 posted on 09/22/2008 3:41:01 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Geist Krieger

I have to wonder how much these kids who are so crazy for Obama know about his real record. I wonder how many have looked in detail at his proposals. I wonder if any have taken into consideration the damage that will be done.

Four years from now when the economy is a mess, many of them have had to drop out of school, or their parents are broke, I guess they will have to live on “hope and change.”


24 posted on 09/22/2008 3:43:31 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: impeachedrapist

Okay, so we agree to disagree! Look how well the attacks against Palin worked in their favor!


25 posted on 09/22/2008 3:43:56 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Michelle Obama...Queen of the Damned (courtesy of CougarGA7))
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To: impeachedrapist

I remember that like it was yesterday. Lazio crushed her in that debate... Not reported that way, though


26 posted on 09/22/2008 3:43:58 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- vote for Palin/McCain)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

Again, I admire the optimism...


27 posted on 09/22/2008 3:45:50 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- vote for Palin/McCain)
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To: montag813

Bush scored a knock out in the debates by being “normal”. When Al Gore tried his tactic of invading Bush’s space, like a freaky alpha dog, and Bush looked over at him and sort of nodded like you nod at a freak,,the debates were over. That moment won the election for GWB.


28 posted on 09/22/2008 3:46:08 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Chet 99

Regarding the national polls. Gallup and Rasmussen, the two favored national polls here at FR, play funny with the percentages of Democrats and Republicans in their polls. And Gallup uses ‘registered voters’ and Rasmussen uses ‘likely voters.’

But........

The only thing that matters is voter turnout and Bush in 2004 had close to 4 million more Republican voters turnout than did the Democrats. If that pattern holds in 2008, we WIN!!!!! Yab-a-dab-a-dooooo!!!

Note: I realize the electoral college is the last word but my point was simply to address the percentage of voters.


29 posted on 09/22/2008 3:49:26 PM PDT by avacado
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
If McCain takes Penn. that is equivalent to check and mate. I think what this poll reinforced was that McCain is holding important 04 states but needs to shore up a few.

Penn is huge and if Obama can't protect it, that is the end game.

30 posted on 09/22/2008 3:56:03 PM PDT by lt.america (Palin was McCain's Midway while Saddleback was his Coral Sea)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Battleground Poll Tracking McCain (48%) Obama (47%)
Battleground | 9/22/2008 | Battleground
Posted on 09/22/2008 6:50:39 AM PDT by tatown
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2087648/posts


31 posted on 09/22/2008 3:57:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: comebacknewt

Unfortunately I think they will. I know at UPenn in PA, they’re registering kids everyday. You know, A BUNCH of kids with the Che t-shirts and Obama buttons on their school bags. At the registering booth, they’re selling their “Barack the Vote” shirts. They practically worship him as some type of Socialist revolutionary.


32 posted on 09/22/2008 3:57:24 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: NYC Republican
What am I going to do, is my point. It's pretty damn scary to think we're heading into a fascist nightmare. Even if McCain wins, we're facing an amnesty disaster. So where's the silver lining to keep my blood pressure from going up, and my heart from exploding. Well, Palin showed that the conservative base can be united. And if we're united and focused, we can defeat the left. I know it's going to take a generation to rebuild this country. Economically and culturally. Have to stay optimistic because this is a long painful fight ahead of us.
As for this election, in my opinion it comes down to turnout. Right now I think the gop base is more fired up than the democrat base. Perhaps after the debates McCain will kill that edge off. So we'll see. If he would just act like a conservative for a few more weeks he'd win easily. But he is who he is.
33 posted on 09/22/2008 4:02:41 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: lt.america

I think it all depends on base support right now. If McCain does a good job in the debates, acts like a conservative, he wins PA and the election. If he goes lefty on us then he throws away the election. We’ll have to see what happens. I think the first debate is this week.


34 posted on 09/22/2008 4:08:58 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

Well, the X factor in this election cycle is the PUMA voters who were shunned by the DNC and will crossover to vote against Barack O-bama...I don’t believe they have even wanted to poll those voters for fear of the tongue lashing they’d receive! I think the media has swept that entire group under the proverbial rug and they are very wrong to ignore that voter group!


35 posted on 09/22/2008 4:13:52 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
You make several good points. I am not for sure my feelings on the debates as of yet because I think the first one will be like two kids fighting in the backseat of a car. The main thing is for McCain to keep his cool and not give the Obama camp any fodder for political adds. Obama’s camp has already started to lower expectations for their guy.
36 posted on 09/22/2008 4:19:21 PM PDT by lt.america (Palin was McCain's Midway while Saddleback was his Coral Sea)
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To: Chet 99

It won’t be any easier for the dems in 2012, when they re-apportion the representatives.

Look for New York and Massachusetts to lose and Texas and Utah to gain Electoral Votes.


37 posted on 09/22/2008 4:20:05 PM PDT by proudpapa (McCain - Palin'08)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
So PA should flip to McCain this time.

From your lips to the Pennsylvanian voters' ears.

38 posted on 09/22/2008 4:22:06 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: lt.america
You're right. If McCain keeps his cool, he'll be okay. What I'd like to see is the arrogant Obama start to feel his oats, start lecturing McCain on things. All McCain would have to say is who are you to lecture me on foreign policy? Did you ever serve in our military, have you ever witnessed the brutality of war first hand?
39 posted on 09/22/2008 4:27:37 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: Repeal 16-17

if I’m wrong in my predictions I’ll ask Zogby for a job. I’ll probably fit in well there.


40 posted on 09/22/2008 4:29:30 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
“Did you ever serve in our military, have you ever witnessed the brutality of war first hand?”

You must have had a sneak peak into the Obama war room because I bet their biggest concern is to avoid anything that could set up a “Bentsen/Quail” moment because it could prove fatal.

41 posted on 09/22/2008 4:32:56 PM PDT by lt.america (Palin was McCain's Midway while Saddleback was his Coral Sea)
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To: lt.america

The key is can he help himself? I hope not.


42 posted on 09/22/2008 4:34:18 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: comebacknewt
"I'm very skeptical that these "new voters" are actually going to show up to vote."

I know that the reports on registration are accurate because they come from the registrars.

However, what I cannot yet figure out is who they are registering for? Some say that Governor Palin just energized the Conservatives and the "base" like never before. Add to that fear of Obama's policies and proposals to make this a socialist (or Islamic) nation. Others say that the anti-Bush propaganda drilled into students on campuses and all the pro-Obama (making him to be the Black Kennedy) is driving them to get involved for Obama. He promises them the world and that is what they want.

Bottom line is, if record numbers do show up at the polls, who will they show up for?

43 posted on 09/22/2008 4:38:06 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
I think PA is there for the taking for McCain.

I sure hope so. PA would win this thing hands down for McCain.

44 posted on 09/22/2008 4:40:26 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (Barack Hussein Obama brings change... he changes his position every five minutes.)
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To: rlbedfor
Of course African-Americans will vote in droves. That is a given. But, also keep in mind that "early observations" of voting at courthouses are generally observations made in urban (read inner city) areas (I only assume yours was) and thus, you are going to see more blacks going to early voting, anyway. And, keep in mind that many states had early voting in the last election, too.
45 posted on 09/22/2008 4:50:05 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: TNCMAXQ
"I have to wonder how much these kids who are so crazy for Obama know about his real record. I wonder how many have looked in detail at his proposals. I wonder if any have taken into consideration the damage that will be done."

They go to class being fed liberal propaganda by pro-Obama professors, games and parties...

What news do they get and from where? ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC & CNN on TV when they have time to watch. I doubt they have time for Laura, Rush, Sean, Levin on talk radio. Talk radio seems an older crowd or political junkies like me for the most part (except for a few young Republicans whose parents are political junkies).

They are handicapped by the media blackout of the real Obama record or the real force behind the puppet and his record of nothing or worse than nothhing. They probably don't know, nor would believe that he and his campaign team are the reason for our current economic and energy crisis. He has them convinced it's our fault and that he has the hope for the real change that will make their dreams come true.

Obama is the equivilent of the Muslim geenie or "gin" that grants them their wishes or hearts desire.

46 posted on 09/22/2008 4:50:21 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: Geist Krieger

To sum up what was said, they are a bunch of stupid kids. :)


47 posted on 09/22/2008 4:54:20 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: proudpapa

Arizona will gain too. Probably Florida as well. Virginia will - if we can hold it.


48 posted on 09/22/2008 5:07:52 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Chet 99

..this is just a hunch, but I do not think the Rendell machine is going to lift a finger to help Obama—he’s helping Hillary lay the groundwork for 2012—IMO PA goes RED in November...


49 posted on 09/22/2008 5:14:04 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Norman Bates

Strange. Rasmussen polls are going against the tide. Survey USA and ABC/Wash. Post show Obama taking Va. Plus other national polls are showing wild swings to Obama.

Rasmussen is showing the election to be static despite, the bad economic news. Interestingly, American Research Group state polls are similiar to Rasmussen polls.


50 posted on 09/22/2008 5:28:08 PM PDT by yongin (Don't get mad at MSM smears. Do GOTV work for Palin)
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