2) "I will fire chairman Cox"
3) wait too long to make formal address on the economic situation.
4) failure to have Governor Palin make formal address to establish gravitas
5) failure to have organized refutation of Obama and mainstream media
Posted on 09/22/2008 6:56:54 AM PDT by tatown
In Minnesota, Barack Obama has opened an eight-point lead over John McCain.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Minnesota voters finds Obama attracting 52% of the vote while McCain earns 44% (Demographic Crosstabs available for Premium Members.)
Last month, Obama’s lead was down to four percentage points. Two months ago, the Democrat had a twelve point advantage.
Obama is now supported by 95% of Democrats, up from 89% in August. The Democrat also holds a modest lead among unaffiliated voters after splitting that vote with McCain last month. McCain gets the vote from 93% of Republicans, up two points from a month ago and fourteen points since July.
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Obama is now viewed favorably by 64% of Minnesota voters, McCain by 52%. That’s quite a change from August when McCain drew the higher ratings. In August, many in Minnesota thought their Governor was a likely Vice Presidential running mate for McCain.
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Lets not discount those who bitterly cling to their Guns, quite a few of them in upper MN who are going to come out for the Palin/McCain ticket.
At this point I wouldnt rule out any midwestern states for McCain/Palin.
ping
What is in the water up there in Minnesota?
How good is Rasmussen on state polling?
It’s interesting that so many other polls showed it closer in MN. Then again, I’m sure it will go RAT anyway, per usual.
While I doubt we take Minnesota, the only state that voted fro Mondale, I must ask;
Is this an independent Rasmussen poll of the state, or the 500 LV Fox News sponsored polls, in which Fox gives Rasmussen their own voter ID breakdown? It has made a bit of a difference in Rasmussen’s state polling.
For example, the Fox/Ras poll has Elizabeth Dole losing a Senate seat in NC. This will not happen.
at least THAT's the way MN was when I left in 74.
I would think than MN would be easier than Wisconisn.
..Kerry won by only 3.5% in ‘04—sorry Scott try polling again...
Mondale won Minnesota by only 2300 votes.
I read Rasmussen changed hispolitcal affliations over the weekend to favor Dems again !NO reason for the change just because he thinks that .
We’re being lured with this crap about MN being close, like it was supposed to be in 2004, so we devote resources to it and still lose. There are too many other must-wins to waste too many resources in MN.
It’s just the Al Franken Bounce.
It WAS close in 2004, Bush loss by just 3%.
two words...
Al
Franken
Minnesota has been trended Republican for several years now, so I think we have a great shot at Minnesota (Al Franken should be worth 2 points for McCain at the minimum).
Southeast Wisconsin is in the Chicago media market and is traditionally very liberal (i.e. Madison). Wisconsin would be a very hard flip. If McCain takes Wisconsin, he will take Minnesota, Michigan, and possibly Pennsylvania.
Minnesota and Michigan are the best bets for flips in the upper midwest. Either one solidifies McCain’s election.
Al Franken
The question is, does Franken ramp up DEM support more or GOP support more?
at least THAT’s the way MN was when I left in 74. ............................ Yeah, and they elected a fake wrestler as governor? Jumpin Jimminy!
Another Monday.
Another round of polls for people to waste time trying to derive meaning from, and to regulate their moods with.
Still plenty of room for volunteers at your local campaign shop. Just a suggestion.
That one poll is old, 9/18. Lots can happen in a few days, week...overal it is only showing a 3.0 plus for Obama in Minnesota. McCain definitely has a chance to win!!! AND with all the hockey moms/snow machiners I bet we have a good chance......and we have a far better ticket!!
Minnesota: McCain vs. Obama
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 09/10 - 09/18 — 48.3 45.3 Obama +3.0
Rasmussen 09/18 - 09/18 500 LV 52 44 Obama +8
Big10 Battleground 09/14 - 09/17 610 RV 47 45 Obama +2
Star Tribune 09/10 - 09/12 1106 LV 45 45 Tie
SurveyUSA 09/10 - 09/11 734 LV 49 47 Obama +2
See All Minnesota: McCain vs. Obama Polling Data
Election day can’t get here fast enough! Screw these polls!
MN has only gone Rep once since 1960.
Yes, Bush lost MN by 100,000 votes with only 2.8 million votes cast and all the Bush 2004 numbers were records. You’re really going to play in MN rather than OH or PA?
These uninformed idiots are going to be the downfall of this country. It it vital that we win this election.
A lot of “Rose Nylands” up there.
I agree. But hey, we have three presidential debates and one VP debate for the media to skew in the DEMs favor. I hope that McCain blows Obama out of the water this Friday, but with liberal moderators, the deck is stacked in Obama's favor.
“Another Monday.
Another round of polls for people to waste time trying to derive meaning from, and to regulate their moods with.”
.....
If you view these polls as a “waste” then why “waste” your time posting messages in these poll resuts threads?
I wonder if a second VP debate will have to be scheduled if Obama ditches Biden?
I'm half joking...I don't think Obama is that stupid.
...Or is he? ;-)
Here’s the reason for her slippage: People can’t answer their phones.
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No WI is more in play than the other three states. Bush lost WI in 2004 by 11,000 votes and in 2000 by 5,700 votes.
He made comment about it last week. He slightly increased the Dem percentage and slightly lowered the repub. I forgot on what day but at least he admitted it. Gallup made a huge adjustment and will not admit to it but there raw data for the last four months reveals they made a large pro Dem adjustment. Read Wizbang website about the sneaky Gallup change.
2) "I will fire chairman Cox"
3) wait too long to make formal address on the economic situation.
4) failure to have Governor Palin make formal address to establish gravitas
5) failure to have organized refutation of Obama and mainstream media
Yeah...Its changed a ton since you left.
Other polls have shown the race about a 2 point Obama lead. Have to give it time to see what more recent polls say.
Wisconsin has been trending liberal more than the other States listed and Southeast Wisconsin (the most dense population area) is smack-dab in the middle of the Chicago media market. That makes Obama almost a “native son” in Madison.
No, Wisconsin will only flip if McCain is strong enough to flip Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Yes, Wisconsin is in play more than MN. Personally, if I wouldn’t waste time anywhere except for NM, OH, CO, VA, PA, and maybe MI and WI.
Well Bless Their Naive Little Hearts!
Forget MN, WI, MI, NH. I hope they don’t spend any money or time there. If McCain wins the toss-up states FL, CO, NV, OH, IN, and VA he wins with 274 - without PA. If he wins PA he doesn’t need Colorado. Since most of the other toss-up states that I listed are already leaning McCain, he needs to spend most of his time split between CO and PA. I’d put Palin in CO and McCain in PA all week the last 3 weeks of the election. And then switch places each week. It’s going to be close!
It’s not trending more liberal though. It was closer for Bush in 2004, than in 2000. Being in the Chicago media market doesn’t help McCain, this is true.
I would add FL and NV to that list, although many think that NV will be in McCain's column easily. But what in the heck is happening in NC? Why so close?
Because there is an army of these poll watchers that continuously post this nonsense, try to make up reasons why they are what they are, and then argue over the results as to why this isn’t a good sampling and why this was taken on the wrong day.
In the end the same group of people have wasted hours and have done ZERO to actually achieve a win in Nov.
Every four years this poll circus starts up, and every four years they mean NOTHING to the final result. But God only knows all of these guys seem to think they know what candidates “ought” to be doing based on them.
Cripes..if they come out for Obama then we get Franken. Blech...
"To hell with western civilization. We just want as much of other peoples' money as we can get for as long as it lasts."
So sad. They were such good people.
Al
Franken
You actually might be right. Franken is running a great campaign in MN rolling over Coleman's poor showing.
The bottom line is this.
In order for Obama to win, he must flip
Iowa
New Mexico
Colorado
and not lose more than New Hampshire.
Iowa seems like a lock for him, and New Mexico looks to be trending his way, so he must win Colorado and not lose anything else.
For McCain to win, he has to win
Colorado
or
Minnesota
or
Michigan
or
Pennyslvania
or
Wisconsin
McCain is sitting pretty good right now because there are many ways he can win. Obama has one way to win.
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