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Florida race still too close to call
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 21, 2008 | Adam C. Smith

Posted on 09/21/2008 7:48:40 AM PDT by stevek1

A new St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald poll shows a neck-and-neck race, with Republican John McCain backed by 47 percent of registered Florida voters surveyed, Democrat Barack Obama by 45 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; electionpresident; fl2008; mccainpalin; swingstates; tossups

1 posted on 09/21/2008 7:48:40 AM PDT by stevek1
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To: stevek1

McCain is AHEAD so of course that means it is UNDECIDED

If Obamarama was ahead it would be a LOCK for him....


2 posted on 09/21/2008 7:50:06 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: stevek1

Ah not one vote has been cast yet so its a tad early for this ballast


3 posted on 09/21/2008 7:50:51 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom I know McCain couldn’t answer her in a flippant way, but IF HE COULD it would have nice to)
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To: stevek1
St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald

No agenda there.

4 posted on 09/21/2008 7:52:33 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: stevek1

The Miami Herald is an arm of the Democratic Party.


5 posted on 09/21/2008 7:52:42 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: al baby

Florida will go McCain and it won’t be all that close.

The Democrats want it to be close.

They are looking to put an Al Gore scenerio in Florida.

NOT going to happen.


6 posted on 09/21/2008 7:52:51 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: stevek1
St. Pete Times
owned and operated by the
New York Times

need we read on...I think not

7 posted on 09/21/2008 7:54:30 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......Pelosi + Reid = $ 4.00 per gallon......()
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To: Mr. K
You noticed that,too?

Do you suppose the pollsters have a favorite?

8 posted on 09/21/2008 7:54:46 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: stevek1

800 registered voters, 2/3 of them right after Monday’s economic blowup. McCain is up several points in a state controlled by a Republican governor, and a state with a lot of ex-military.


9 posted on 09/21/2008 7:56:32 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: stevek1

Toward the end of the article there is some interesting info that definitely puts Florida in the McCain camp...no matter what the poll says.


10 posted on 09/21/2008 7:57:03 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: hoosierham

It’s “too close to call”? Since when do they “call” races seven weeks prior to the election? Furthermore, I saw recent polls showing McCain up by as much a seven points in Fla. They must not have polled anyone in the panhandle.


11 posted on 09/21/2008 7:57:57 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: stevek1

What are the internals on this poll from a traditionally liberal newspaper?


12 posted on 09/21/2008 7:59:00 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: stevek1

Every election cycle the local Dem media has the race too close to call . Bush and Kerry were supposed to be neck and neck . Bush crushed him . Jeb and his opponents were too close to call . Jeb crushed him. Gore was way ahead. Bush won. All the state newspapers have become very far left with the St Pete Slimes being the worst.


13 posted on 09/21/2008 7:59:26 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: stevek1
That cinches it. When the St. Petersburg-New York Times reports the race is "too close to call," it is certain the Republicans have broken out and into a healthy lead.

No joke.

14 posted on 09/21/2008 7:59:26 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: hoosierham; Mr. K
Do you suppose the pollsters have a favorite?

Why, of course not! The media is supposed to be unbiased and objective. They would never actually root for one candidate over the other, would they?

I don't think I really need a sarcasm tag...

15 posted on 09/21/2008 8:01:54 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Did the Slimes get bought up by the NY Slimes ?
I thought that local leftist family still controlled it.
But H Raines did go into hiding at there Left media Institutue.


16 posted on 09/21/2008 8:02:54 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: ThreePuttinDude

I believe all major newspapers are oweds by liberal & so the media.
Our papers in CA are far,far left & many people has cancel their subscription.


17 posted on 09/21/2008 8:04:46 AM PDT by mendedheart
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To: stevek1

Notice that these are registered voters. Which means that McCain is likely ahead by a larger margin of likely voters.


18 posted on 09/21/2008 8:06:05 AM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: stevek1
Actually, the article is all bad new for Obama. Even these pollsters show Obama can't win Florida.

"But there are signs Obama still has shoring up to do: 17 percent of former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporters are backing McCain."

"McCain had an 11-point advantage among men, and a 17-point lead among all white voters. Obama had a 5-point lead among women, and the support of more than nine in 10 African-Americans. Hispanic voters, heavily targeted by both campaigns, favored McCain over Obama by 10 points."

19 posted on 09/21/2008 8:07:59 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: murron

In a year like this one, aren’t registered voters and likely voters going to be the same to a far greater extent than usual?


20 posted on 09/21/2008 8:09:00 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Mr. K

You are so right!!!
I was watching the local news last night here in Orlando (SeeBS outlet). They proudly crowed about how much Hussein was up in the new Gallup poll (4 points IIRC). Then they noted the Rasmussen Fla. poll in which McCain was up 5 points here. The description was that Florida was a “close” race, “neck and neck”, nearly tied with the statistical margin of error - of course, no MOE was noted for the Hussein Gallup poll lead!!!

It’s almost funny enough to make one cry!


21 posted on 09/21/2008 8:10:27 AM PDT by nuvista
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To: ncalburt
When Jeb Bush ran for reelection every major newspaper in fl.endorsed him but the Palm Beach Post and the St.Petersburg Times.The two bigest liberal rags in FL.
22 posted on 09/21/2008 8:16:50 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: ncalburt
When Jeb Bush ran for reelection every major newspaper in fl.endorsed him but the Palm Beach Post and the St.Petersburg Times.The two bigest liberal rags in FL.
23 posted on 09/21/2008 8:16:59 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Mr. K

2004 pre-election day — Kerry by 6

Exit polls 2004 Kerry by 4 ...

How many times do the drive by media expect to run this scam?


24 posted on 09/21/2008 8:21:23 AM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: ottbmare

I don’t see why. The Democrats may have a higher turnout than last time, but it still falls short of the numbers of likely voters. There have been some polls that have done polling of likely voters, and the numbers change to favor McCain by a higher number.


25 posted on 09/21/2008 8:22:02 AM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Tarpon
HUSSEIN is not getting the Jewish vote and way less white women than either Kerry or Gore did.

He will lose here by over 5% points.

26 posted on 09/21/2008 8:29:43 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: stevek1

If this poll is correct it tells me that the Rasmussen and not the Gallup daily tracking is correct. Today’s Ras has it almost even 47 McCain, 48 Obama. Saturday’s Gallup has a 6-point spread in Obama’s favor (today’s numbers aren’t out yet). If Obama really had a 6-point spread he would be at least slightly ahead even in Florida.


27 posted on 09/21/2008 8:45:19 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: stevek1

Sorry: when will these idiots learn to read polls. “Registered” voters=+2 to Dems. This one is outside the MOE.


28 posted on 09/21/2008 8:58:22 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: stevek1

I’ll say. The polls haven’t even opened yet.


29 posted on 09/21/2008 9:06:06 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: Norman Bates

Read the Wizbang website analysis of the Gallup poll. Gallup just mysteriously decided to change it party affiliation to favor Dems from the previous weeks. The raw Gallup polling data actually favors McCain. Let see here , we have Manhattan Liberals at Gallup doing a correction to the raw date . I wonder why ????


30 posted on 09/21/2008 9:07:51 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: stevek1

aren’t these three of the most liberal rags in FLA?


31 posted on 09/21/2008 9:12:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: stevek1

Am I missing something ?

When I read the headline it sounded like FL voted yesterday and they are waiting for the final tally.....I am tired of polls


32 posted on 09/21/2008 9:47:56 AM PDT by Kimmers (Liberalism: Where fun goes to die)
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To: stevek1

LameStream Dying Print Media wishful thinking.

Florida will go McCain big time.

North Florida: McCain.

South Florida Cubans: McCain.

A big chunk of even Liberal Jewish South Florida: McCain.

Obama country will be the blacks and uber liberal academics. That isn’t enough to turn Florida into an Obamanation...no matter how much the LameStream Media wishes it were so.


33 posted on 09/21/2008 9:50:21 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: stevek1

Keep in mind also that Florida starts “early voting” on October 21st...right after the 3rd presidential debate.


34 posted on 09/21/2008 9:54:22 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: stevek1

HMMM wasn’t there a poll a few months back that had Obama up 2 in Florida that they called “a lead” ?


35 posted on 09/21/2008 9:54:33 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: stevek1

The St. Pete Times and the Miami herald papers both are very liberal. If you take in to account the vast majority of their readers who responded are libs you have to understand this poll is about as accurate as one done by msnbc.
Florida will go down for McCain-Palin.


36 posted on 09/21/2008 10:13:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: stevek1
Hispanic voters, heavily targeted by both campaigns, favored McCain over Obama by 10 points.

Duly noted.

BTW, did some reading yesterday on the undecideds. Supposedly both campaigns expect they will break for 70% for McCain.

37 posted on 09/21/2008 10:53:07 AM PDT by freespirited
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