Posted on 09/20/2008 8:22:45 PM PDT by neverdem
In yet another revealing moment for nationalized health care, a highly respected British ethicist said that dementia sufferers should get euthanized in order to preserve resources for healthier people. Baroness Warnock, described as “Britain’s leading moral philosopher”, said that the government should license people to be "put down" and stop being a drain on society:
The veteran Government adviser said pensioners in mental decline are “wasting people’s lives” because of the care they require and should be allowed to opt for euthanasia even if they are not in pain.She insisted there was “nothing wrong” with people being helped to die for the sake of their loved ones or society.
The 84-year-old added that she hoped people will soon be “licensed to put others down” if they are unable to look after themselves. …
Lady Warnock said: “If you’re demented, you’re wasting people’s lives – your family’s lives – and you’re wasting the resources of the National Health Service. “I’m absolutely, fully in agreement with the argument that if pain is insufferable, then someone should be given help to die, but I feel there’s a wider argument that if somebody absolutely, desperately wants to die because they’re a burden to their family, or the state, then I think they too should be allowed to die. “Actually I’ve just written an article called ‘A Duty to Die?’ for a Norwegian periodical. I wrote it really suggesting that there’s nothing wrong with feeling you ought to do so for the sake of others as well as yourself.”
Shocking? It shouldn’t be. When the State has the burden of providing “free” medical care, that care will get rationed in ways that are, unfortunately, all too predictable. Human life stops being sacred and instead becomes a commodity with a balance sheet. If bureaucrats decide that a particular life, or a class of life, has become a net negative, then eventually they will find ways to eliminate the liability.
Totalitarian governments have always worked this way; the shock comes from the same impulse occuring in supposedly enlightened democracies. We’re seeing a new kind of government these nanny states, though — a democratic totalitarianism that makes all of the choices for its subjects after they willingly give the bureaucracy the power of life and death over them. It’s a voluntary totalitarianism, and it starts by assigning government the role of caretaker from cradle to grave, the latter point coming at their choosing.
Western civilization built itself on the sanctity of human life and the rights of the individual. It doesn’t take much for Westerners to give up that birthright. The only incentive for voluntary slavery appears to be low-cost prescriptions and catastrophic hospital coverage. Once we buy into that system, all manner of personal choices get removed: the foods you can eat, the beverages you can drink, your pastimes, and apparently your right not to be murdered just to clear a hospital bed.
Resources will get rationed in one manner or another. Only air exists in such abundance that it needs no rationing. The question for any society is whether they will choose the efficient method of market-based rationing or the caprice of a top-down bureaucratic diktat. The former encourages more of the resource to be produced, while the latter restricts new resources and forces a shortage management system onto its community. We see this more clearly in Britain’s NHS than in any other Western construct, and Baroness Warnock’s monstrous demand is only the natural result.
I think the scare quotes are supposed to be around the word “ethicist”, not “put down”.
“Britain’s leading moral philosopher”
If that’s the best they have.... they are indeed in trouble.
Abortions were the camel’s nose. Now it’s easy.
Th world of “Logan’s Run” approaches.
The coming jihad over there should save them a lot of money in the long term.
She is obviously in “mental decline” for letting the secret slip out.
This woman is a wicked witch. They must breed them in the UK...there’s a whole mess of these curious inhuman creatures there.
She should set the example by ending her own miserable life.
Senile people can say some very strange things.
In a society where man is just a highly evolved animal and a leading candidate who voted for infanticide has their utmost support; is this gibberish really a surprise? Sounds rather consistent philosophically for a society which has rejected God.
Using the same reasoning then maybe we should euthanize anyone who doesn’t contribute to society. First abortion, then euthanasia. Where will it end. It’s a sick world we live in when people think like that.
I'm thinking either The Population Bomb or Soylent Green...
I believe the way England is going, that all British ethicists should be put down.
Now's the time to get on that Board.
If that’s the best they have.... they are indeed in trouble.
You said it. This woman is not a moral philosopher. She is a monster and a moral midget.
What if we rewrote it and made it closer to home for the lib?
Lady Warnock said: “If you’re a demented liberal, you’re wasting people’s lives – your family’s lives – and you’re wasting the resources of the entire country. “I’m absolutely, fully in agreement with the argument that if the philosophy is insufferable, then someone should be given help to die, but I feel there’s a wider argument that if somebody absolutely, desperately wants to die because they’re a burden to the planet based on their carbon emissions, then I think they too should be allowed to die. “Actually I’ve just written an article called ‘A Duty to Die?’ for a Norwegian periodical. I wrote it really suggesting that there’s nothing wrong with feeling you ought to do so for the sake of the planet.”
“Human life stops being sacred and instead becomes a commodity with a balance sheet.”
Here’s a factoid I’ve run into concerning the reactions of different health care systems to an old man’s disease:
Survival rates in the U.S for men diagnosed with prosate cancer: Over 80 percent.
Survival rates in France for men diagnosed with prostate cancer: less than 35 per cent.
This looks suspiciously like one set of old men availing themselves of their right to a selfish choice (get that thing out of there right away) and another set of old men being subject to some bureaucrat’s judgment on his value to society (take two asprin and come back in a few years).
The 'British ethicist' appeared with Gore Vidal on UK radio in defence of a convicted female muslim terrorist - obviously, both are senile.
Sick sick sick!!
They both look, well ... so gay.
Eventually, they will get to the point that those with Genetic markers for certain diseases will be denied treatment. Anytime you make something “free” you always end up rationing it. And when rations get scarce, people can and do rationalize a lot of evil things.
Her first.
Let’s change the context just a tad:
In yet another revealing moment for nationalized health care, a highly respected British ethicist said that Muslims should get euthanized in order to preserve resources for English people. Baroness Warnock, described as “Britain’s leading moral philosopher”, said that the government should license Muslims to be “put down” and stop being a drain on society:
There, fixed it for them.
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why top at the senile? why not the old? they suck social services as much as anyone alive. therefore this ethecist should die - immediately.
Who pays an ethicist for their thoughts? So much is wasted on people faking jobs that really produce nothing.
Bump.
In the UK, aborting the babies and euthanizing the aged and infirm is just speeding the takeover of the UK by the coming Muslim Majority...When the apple is rotten to the core it will be too late to save the apple...
So to Hail Brittainia...eat, drink and be hearty for tomorrow you will no longer exist as part of Western Civilization...Been nice to know ya as any old Yank would say...
Isn’t this a Democrat Party plank too?
British: “Senile are expensive”
“Lady Warnock said: “If you’re demented, you’re wasting people’s lives – your family’s lives – and you’re wasting the resources of the National Health Service.”
Godwin’s Law does not apply to this individual because this IS what real Nazis did to “defective people.” She herself sounds like a useless eater, and perhaps she should practice on herself what she preaches—just to set an example, you know.
This senile old fool should off himself. This is what socialists want — bring individual under state for “care.”
Hilter and Mussolini are going to need apologies at this rate.
Re: “While we are “putting them down” shall we butcher human beings for meat, just as long we do it in a humane manner?”
Hmmmm, Soylent Green—Mrs. Lovett’s meat pies—Hannibal Lecter’s cookbook—Titus Andronicus’ banquet—the Donner Party. There is precedent, you know. :-)
The next step from there is euthanasia of the mentally handicapped. This is despicable reasoning, and it emanates from the unethical political philosophy ‘socialism’. Sometimes the Borg seem more reasonable than the leftists.
"I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child."
Globalists have been saying such things about
“useless eaters”
for decades.
See the link in my tagline to FR thread post with quotes from our traitorous leaders back to 1900.
Why is it, any time someone has the word “ethics” or any variation thereof in their title, they have none whatsoever?
Evil propagandists
have been
word slicers, dicers, manglers, abusers for many centuries, if not millenia.
And the globalists/socialists/Marxists are amongst the most . . . ‘accomplished’ in the black ‘art.’
Actually, the Baroness is being perfectly logical and rational. What people forget is that fanatics are perfectly logical and rational.
Baroness Warnock
She seems a bit past her shelf life herself! Well that's it then! Into the dumpster with her!
I guess this explains the anger at Governor Palin for not killing her baby.
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