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Right to Smear (expose Obama)
New York Times ^ | September 20, 2008

Posted on 09/20/2008 7:48:57 PM PDT by reaganaut1

The wholesale descent into Swift Boat campaigning has been blocked — for now — by a federal judge in Virginia. But voters should not rest easy. A group calling itself The Real Truth About Obama is appealing the ruling.

The group aims to block federal regulations so it can spend unlimited money on a commercial smearing the Democratic nominee as a zealous proponent of any and all abortion on demand — “at any time during pregnancy, as many times as a woman wants one.”

If the group were to win on appeal, it would signal open season for countless stealth groups to flood the remaining weeks of the campaign with underhanded attack ads. The courts must uphold the law, heeding the Federal Election Commission’s warning of “serious harm to the public” if the attack group prevails.

Posing as a mere “issue advocacy” operation, the group’s ad attacks Mr. Obama’s character and accuses him of “lying” about his abortion record. In truth, it trashes the candidate’s nuanced position. It even employs an Obama-like voice pledging to make taxpayers pay for abortions, help minors conceal abortions from their parents, and legalize late-term abortions.

To spread these lies, the group wants an injunction against the election commission’s disclosure and spending rules, instituted after the Swift Boaters of 2004 were belatedly ruled in violation of election law.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 527groups; abortion; campaignfinance; censorship; cultureofcorruption; cultureofdeath; democrats; electionads; elections; fec; firstamendment; freespeech; juciciary; judicialactivism; judiciary; obama; prolife; ruling; silenceamerica
A blogger demonstrates that the ad is true at http://radgeek.com/gt/2008/08/28/the_real/ . Obama agrees with the NYT editorial board 100% on abortion, but the Times wants to suppress that information so that he can gain power and enact their common agenda.

Of course, the Senator who has worked hardest to silence independent groups at election time is John McCain. Ugh.

By discussing the alleged "smears" the Times may encourage some readers to learn the truth about Obama's positions, helping McCain.

1 posted on 09/20/2008 7:48:57 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

To the drive-by media, if you tell the truth about Obama, you’re lying and if you lie about Palin what you say is fact.


2 posted on 09/20/2008 7:51:15 PM PDT by library user
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To: reaganaut1
"The group aims to block federal regulations so it can spend unlimited money on a commercial smearing the Democratic nominee as a zealous proponent of any and all abortion on demand — “at any time during pregnancy, as many times as a woman wants one.”

Smearing? Since when is the absolute truth smearing?

3 posted on 09/20/2008 7:53:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: reaganaut1

He’s nuanced. They are liars - And underhanded too.

Typical op-ed.


4 posted on 09/20/2008 7:53:30 PM PDT by cpanter (Babies, guns and Jesus. Hot Damn! - Rush on the Palin pick.)
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To: reaganaut1
In truth, it trashes the candidate’s nuanced position (on abortion).

Killing a child after it's born. This is an interesting definition of nuanced.

5 posted on 09/20/2008 7:54:24 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: reaganaut1

NY Times does not own a copy of our Constitution.


6 posted on 09/20/2008 7:54:55 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: reaganaut1
It even employs an Obama-like voice pledging to make taxpayers pay for abortions, help minors conceal abortions from their parents, and legalize late-term abortions.

It's hard to believe that the Times has their thong in a wad over this. Everything they are saying about Obama is true. He holds an abortion position that is as-radical-as-they-come.
7 posted on 09/20/2008 7:55:30 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: library user

This is exhibit A on why the NYT is slowly going bankrupt, they are in the Free Speech business, that is how they put money in the bank account, and here they are cheerleading limits being put on the very life blood of their franchise.

Media is like no other “business” in the world, cut your own throat then lay off 10,000 people who do the work that allows the enterprise to function.

Good job NYT....morons...


8 posted on 09/20/2008 7:56:21 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: reaganaut1

How horrible, citizens exercising their first amendment rights! Mustn’t have that... Issue advocacy should never have been brought within the scope of the campaign finance laws.


9 posted on 09/20/2008 7:57:05 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: reaganaut1
To spread these lies

WTF? These are not lies, and are backed up by Obama's own words and actions in the IL Senate.
10 posted on 09/20/2008 7:57:10 PM PDT by Cheerio
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To: reaganaut1

The NY Slimes sure knows about smears esp. when about Palin.


11 posted on 09/20/2008 8:00:33 PM PDT by yongin (Don't get mad at MSM smears. Do GOTV work for Palin)
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To: reaganaut1

“”””

Posing as a mere “issue advocacy” operation, the group’s ad attacks Mr. Obama’s character and accuses him of “lying” about his abortion record. In truth, it trashes the candidate’s nuanced position. It even employs an Obama-like voice pledging to make taxpayers pay for abortions, help minors conceal abortions from their parents, and legalize late-term abortions.
“””””

That’s his record...


12 posted on 09/20/2008 8:00:51 PM PDT by bahblahbah (http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/)
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To: padre35

“This is exhibit A on why the NYT is slowly going bankrupt, they are in the Free Speech business, that is how they put money in the bank account, and here they are cheerleading limits being put on the very life blood of their franchise.”

The Times knows that Federal judges are not going to slap them down for non-stop propaganda on behalf of leftists. They want to suppress political TV ads and other ways of getting around them. The McCain-Feingold law was so popular with the MSM media for this reason.


13 posted on 09/20/2008 8:01:56 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: 6SJ7
This is an interesting definition of nuanced.

New York Times definition of "nuanced": A position we don't want people to take literally, or think about too much.

No, they're not in the tank for Obama. Not at all. </sarcasm>

14 posted on 09/20/2008 8:02:05 PM PDT by irv
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To: yongin; All

This is one reason why I’m insisting on candidates for state and fed offices go to using and distributing printed pieces http://www.theusmat.com/home.htm


15 posted on 09/20/2008 8:04:45 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Time to recall those. poisonous CFLs and the polticians who mandated them)
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To: irv

I think Sandra Bernhart recently said that her wish for Governor Palin to be gang-raped by a group of black men was part of a “nuanced” opinion piece.

I guess THAT clears up what “nuanced” means when it comes to Obama’s position on abortion.


16 posted on 09/20/2008 8:07:34 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: reaganaut1
The MSM, they can dish it out but their candidate can't take it. So they want his critics silenced. It says a lot about their commitment to First Amendment free speech rights that the New York Times is behaving like Obama's thugs.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 09/20/2008 8:10:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bolobaby

Nah. That’s just projection.


18 posted on 09/20/2008 8:13:18 PM PDT by irv
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To: bahblahbah
Obama is FOR infanticide, is for abortion on demand and wants to help minors conceal abortions from their parents. Its all on the record. Nothing nuanced about his radical position. To liberals, exposing that is "smearing" him. As opposed to digging up dirt on Sarah, that's just fact-checking. Now that's the NYT's idea of running a fair campaign.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 09/20/2008 8:13:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1

I thought the NY Times supported Obama because he supports unlimited abortion. So, why are they complaining? Isn’t that what they want?


20 posted on 09/20/2008 8:15:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bolobaby

Holy Moses, that woman Sandra Bernhardt looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. I just googled her and wished i hadn’t.

Brrrrr.


21 posted on 09/20/2008 8:17:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (Who is Saul Alinsky and why is Barack Obama a disciple of his methods?)
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To: Cicero
Exactly. So what is the problem? Why do they want it hidden from the voters?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

22 posted on 09/20/2008 8:18:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1
IMHO, the biggest reason that McCain's poliing (and approval) numbers have gone down is not "the economy, stupid."

It is Obama and the Obamedia getting away with his lie of calling McCain's Sex Ed chrge a "lie."

It is the perception sold by tham that McCain has gotten "sleazy" (while it is Obama who is).
23 posted on 09/20/2008 8:18:20 PM PDT by unspun (oalin pwns)
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To: reaganaut1

>>...attacks Mr. Obama’s character and accuses him of “lying” about his abortion record. In truth, it trashes the candidate’s nuanced position.

And now this...after all of his schlepping around to consult with numerous journalists, propaganda experts, and trial lawyers on crafting just the right nuance on when and how it is virtuous to kill babies.


24 posted on 09/20/2008 8:23:15 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov
Only the New York Times would view an honest answer from Obama about abortion is being "above his pay grade!"

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 09/20/2008 8:25:29 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1

You would be surprised at how many peple around here in SE Ohio already know about how extreme Obama is on it. This does not sit very well with white working class males at all!


26 posted on 09/20/2008 8:27:49 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: reaganaut1
How can you Swift Boat a candidate who did not serve?

Obama hates the military, wants soldiers to die in defeat, and lacks the courage to serve.

How can he be Swift Boated?

Oh I get it.

When John Kerry did his little salute, in an attempt at using his disgraceful military conduct as qualification to be CIC, any investigation of that service was unfair.

So in response to valid inquires about his leadership, the MSM now defines honest research concerning DNC candidates as Swift Boating.

A military designation of equipment and operations has once again been twisted by partisan media pundits. The same MSM has been attacking the military for decades.

I will now refer to all Vietnam War Protesters as Poll Pot accomplices, genocide advocates, cowards, and deferment junkies.

27 posted on 09/20/2008 8:28:36 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: reaganaut1
"The group aims to block federal regulations so it can spend unlimited money on a commercial smearing the Democratic nominee as a zealous proponent of any and all abortion on demand — “at any time during pregnancy, as many times as a woman wants one.”

Exactly which demanded abortion has Obama opposed????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Is the NYT that ignorant? ...........Or are they just that dishonest?

28 posted on 09/20/2008 8:29:31 PM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: padre35
NYT is all-in on the ante. If Obama wins, they are Pravda, and the immediate “Fairness Doctrine” legislation will kill any dissent on the free airwaves.

This is my honest belief.

29 posted on 09/20/2008 8:36:20 PM PDT by Carling (I'm a Typical White Person)
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To: rlmorel

Holy Moses, that woman Sandra Bernhardt looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. I just googled her and wished i hadn’t.

Brrrrr.
__________________________

LOL. She’s an ugly skank lesbo. Should be run out of the country.


30 posted on 09/20/2008 8:41:03 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: reaganaut1

“.....a commercial smearing the Democratic nominee as a zealous proponent of any and all abortion on demand....”

Since when is telling the truth “SMEARING”? What Thesaurus is the NYT using?


31 posted on 09/20/2008 9:22:25 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: reaganaut1

True, a judge might not, but they also are cutting off a revenue stream, so they have a fuzzy smug feeling, they do not have the cash from Advertisements.


32 posted on 09/20/2008 10:12:22 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: reaganaut1

The NYT is garbage and serves as a pasta dinner for the starving liberal wanting his fill of Obama and the goodness of Marxism.

It is a joke and so biased, it makes me scream.

8 pages of Palin smear; front page news on fake Duke Lacrosse rape; no news of Channon Christian...

They are a Communist rag.


33 posted on 09/20/2008 10:12:45 PM PDT by wac3rd (The MSM will accompany the Captain of the SS Marxist Titanic to the bottom of Lake Michigan)
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To: reaganaut1
Nuanced

Myass.

34 posted on 09/20/2008 10:38:21 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Jim Robinson
" Smearing? Since when is the absolute truth smearing? "

Jim... the left do not know true when they see it..... in their convoluted bizarro world of thinking ... light is darkness, up is down... right is wrong.
They want to fool the sheeple 24/7 all the time... the koolaid of the MSM.
35 posted on 09/21/2008 4:06:06 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: rlmorel
Sandra Bernhardt looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

And then climbed it and fell again.

36 posted on 09/21/2008 4:30:13 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: rlmorel

“ugly tree”.
Heck she hit the whole damn forest!


37 posted on 09/21/2008 4:53:40 AM PDT by elder5 (Reelect ROSSI '08)
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To: reaganaut1

FOCA is Obama’s 1st priority.


38 posted on 09/21/2008 5:03:17 AM PDT by combat_boots (God, gun and babies. Justices, taxes and sovereignty. Otherwise known as White Trash. Count me in.)
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“Obama’s Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion Over Wishes of Individual States a Priority for Presidency” By Peter J. Smith http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08061010.html


39 posted on 09/21/2008 5:05:29 AM PDT by combat_boots (God, gun and babies. Justices, taxes and sovereignty. Otherwise known as White Trash. Count me in.)
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To: reaganaut1

If I belonged to this group, I’d seriously investigate the possibility of suing the NY Slimes for slander or libel. They really went overboard on this editorial (aka Obama talking points), and should be held accountable.


40 posted on 09/21/2008 6:05:28 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (On Free Republic PBD [political bipolar disorder] rules!)
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To: reaganaut1
the group’s ad attacks Mr. Obama’s character and accuses him of “lying” about his abortion record. In truth, it trashes the candidate’s nuanced position...
'Nuance':
Politician speak, usually by democrats, that use five dollars words strung ad infinitum in order to lie about, or hide, your true position on a subject.

similar to: "I have a plan for 'that', see my website"


41 posted on 09/21/2008 7:05:55 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Condor51
In truth, it trashes the candidate’s nuanced position.

Only Democrat's are entitled to "nuanced positions". If Hussein supports a late term abortion bill, but later says that determining when life begins, that's a "nuanced position". If Sarah Palin, in fact, brought action on the "bridge to nowhere" to a halt, she's "lying", unless she also explains that she at one time supported the bill. No nuance allowed for evil Republicans.

42 posted on 09/21/2008 7:12:33 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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*** Only Democrat's are entitled to "nuanced positions". ... No nuance allowed for evil Republicans. ***

True.
Because to the MSM all Democrat Pols have the IQ of Einstein and Stephen Hawking combined. As such they think in the abstract and speak in nuance (or French at home) -- as its the only way the dumb electorate could ever hope grasp their high ideals and goals. (yessa massa. youze be knowin what's best for us)

While republicans are inbred dolts who made their money by shear luck on the backs of the poor, or inherited it and can only count as high as their golf score. They only care about tax shelters and cocktail hour at 'the club'.

(Speaking of Cocktail Hour, is Fatso Kennedy still sucking air?) /s

43 posted on 09/21/2008 7:37:38 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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