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Obama Objects
NY Post/Frontpagemagazine ^ | 9-18-08 | Amir Teheri

Posted on 09/18/2008 4:25:22 PM PDT by DrBombbay

Obama Objects By Amir Taheri New York Post | Thursday, September 18, 2008

IN Monday's Post, I discussed how Barack Obama, during his July trip, had asked Iraqi leaders not to finalize an agreement vital to the future of US forces in Iraq - and how the effect of such a delay would be to postpone the departure of the US from Iraq beyond the time Obama himself calls for.

The Obama campaign has objected. While its statement says my article was "filled with distortions," the rebuttal actually centers on a technical point: the differences between two Iraqi-US accords under negotiation - the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA, to set rules governing US military personnel in Iraq) and the Strategic Framework Agreement (SFA, to settle the legal basis for the US military presence in Iraq in the months and years ahead).

The Obama camp says I confused the two. It continues: "On the Status of Forces Agreement, Sen. Obama has always said he hoped that the US and Iraq would complete it - but if they did not, the option of extending the UN mandate should be considered.

"As to the Strategic Framework Agreement, Sen. Obama has consistently said that any security arrangements that outlast this administration should have the backing of the US Congress - especially given the fact that the Iraqi parliament will have the opportunity to vote on it."

If there is any confusion, it's in Obama's position - for the two agreements are interlinked: You can't have any US military presence under one agreement without having settled the other accord. (Thus, in US-Iraqi talks, the aim is a comprehensive agreement that covers both SOFA and SFA.)

And the claim that Obama only wanted the Strategic Framework Agreement delayed until a new administration takes office, and had no objection to a speedy conclusion of a Status of Forces Agreement, is simply untrue.

Here is how NBC reported Obama's position on June 16, after his conversation in the US with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari: "Obama also told Zebari, he said, that Congress should be involved in any negotiations regarding a Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq. He suggested it may be better to wait until the next administration to negotiate such an agreement."

In other words, Obama wanted a delay on the Status of Forces Agreement, not on the Strategic Framework Agreement - as his rebuttal now claims.

The NBC report continues: "Asked by NBC's Lee Cowan if a timetable for the Status of Forces Agreement was discussed, Obama said, 'Well he, the foreign minister, had presented a letter requesting an extension of the UN resolution until the end of this year. So that' s a six-month extension.'"

That Obama was aware that the two accords couldn' t be separated is clear in his words to NBC:

"Obviously, we can't have US forces operating on the ground in Iraq without some sort of agreement, either a further extension of the UN resolution or some sort of Status of Forces agreement, some strategic framework agreement. As I said before, my concern is that the Bush administration -- in a weakened state politically -- ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next administration, whether it was my administration or Sen. McCain' s administration." (Emphasis added.)

Obama also told NBC: "The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that's currently made, but I think the only way to assure that is to make sure that there is strong bipartisan support, that Congress is involved, that the American people know the outlines of this agreement.

"And my concern is that if the Bush administration negotiates, as it currently has, and given that we're entering into the heat of political season, that we're probably better off not trying to complete a hard-and-fast agreement before the next administration takes office, but I think obviously these conversations have to continue.

"As I said, my No. 1 priority is making sure that we don't have a situation in which US troops on the ground are somehow vulnerable to, are made more vulnerable, because there is a lack of a clear mandate."

This confirms precisely what I suggested in my article: Obama preferred to have no agreement on US troop withdrawals until a new administration took office in Washington.

Obama has changed position on another key issue. In the NBC report, he pretends that US troops in Iraq do not have a "clear mandate." Now, however, he admits that there is a clear mandate from the UN Security Council and that he'd have no objection to extending it pending a bilateral Iraq-US agreement.

The campaign's rebuttal adds other confusions to the mix. It notes that Obama (along with two other senators who accompanied him) also stated in July: "We raised a number of other issues with the Iraqi leadership, including our deep concern about Iranian financial and material assistance to militia engaged in violent acts against American and Iraqi forces; the need to secure public support through our respective legislatures for any long term security agreements our countries negotiate; the importance of doing more to help the more than 4 million Iraqis who are refugees or internally displaced persons; and the need to give our troops immunity from Iraqi prosecution so long as they are in Iraq."

Note that in this part of the statement, the term "security agreements" is used instead of SOFA and SFA - another sign that the two can' t be separated.

In any case, I never said Obama didn't raise other issues with the Iraqis. Yet all those issues have been the subject of US-Iraqi talks between the US and Iraq (and of conferences attended by Iraq's neighbors) for the last five years. Simply repeating them isn' t enough to hide the fact that Obama' s policy on Iraq consists of little more than a few contradictory slogans.

My account of Obama's message to the Iraqis was based on a series of conversations with Iraqi officials, as well as reports and analyses in the Iraqi media (including the official newspaper, Al Sabah) on the senator's trip to Baghdad. It is also confirmed by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.

In a long interview with the pan-Arab daily Asharq al-Awsat, Zebari says: "Obama asked me why, in view of the closeness of a change of administration, we were hurrying the signing of this special agreement, and why we did not wait until the coming of the new administation next year and agree on some issues and matters."

Again, note that Zebari mentions a single set of agreements, encompassing both SFA and SOFA.

Zebari continues: "I told Obama that, as an Iraqi, I believe that even if there is a Democratic administration in the White House it had better continue the present policy instead of wasting a lot of time thinking what to do."

In other words, Obama was trying to derail current US policy, while Zebari was urging him not to "waste time."

Zebari then says: "I pointed out to him [Obama] that the agreement being negotiated [with the US] was not to be necessarily binding on the future administration unless it wanted to cooperate with the people of Iraq instead of [causing] crises and problems from its very start."

According to Zebari, Obama said "some media reports that I want all [American] forces withdrawn are wrong. I want to keep American forces [in Iraq] to train [the Iraqi army] and fight terrorism." This is precisely what US troops have been doing in Iraq for the last five years.

Zebari then says that he had the impression that US policy in Iraq wouldn't change: "The US has permanent strategic interests in our region. A change in the administration would not change realities and priorities and would not mean a change of policy as a whole." (Full text of the Zebari interview is available on Asharqalawsat.com)

Contrary to what Obama and his campaign have said, Iraqi officials insist that at no point in his talks in Washington and Baghdad did Obama make a distinction between SOFA and SFA when he advised them to wait for the next American administration.

The real news I see in the Obama statement is that there may be an encouraging evolution in his position on Iraq: The "rebuttal" shows that the senator no longer shares his party leadership's belief that the United States has lost the war in Iraq.

He now talks of "the prospect of lasting success," perhaps hoping that his own administration would inherit the kudos. And he makes no mention of his running mate Joe Biden's pet project for carving Iraq into three separate states. He has even abandoned his earlier claim that toppling Saddam Hussein was "illegal" and admits that the US-led coalition's presence in Iraq has a legal framework in the shape of the UN mandate.

In his statement on my Post article, Obama no longer talks of "withdrawal" but of "redeployment" and "drawdown" - which is exactly what is happening in Iraq now.

While I am encouraged by the senator's evolution, I must also appeal to him to issue a "cease and desist" plea to the battalions of his sympathizers - who have been threatening me with death and worse in the days since my article appeared.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2008; amirteheri; election; electionpresident; elections; foreignpolicy; iraq; islam; mohammedanism; obamabiden; obamabigadventure; obamavisit; zebari
Will the MSM take the initative here and report?

lol

1 posted on 09/18/2008 4:25:22 PM PDT by DrBombbay
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To: DrBombbay
Amir Taheri's appearance this morning on Fox & Friends:



Foreign Affair
Is Barack Obama trying to stall the success of the surge in Iraq?

2 posted on 09/18/2008 4:29:15 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: DrBombbay

Be smart!

Don’t hold your breath waiting.... Just some friendly advice from an old grey-headed media watcher.


3 posted on 09/18/2008 4:38:38 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: DrBombbay
He now talks of "the prospect of lasting success," perhaps hoping that his own administration would inherit the kudos. And he makes no mention of his running mate Joe Biden's pet project for carving Iraq into three separate states. He has even abandoned his earlier claim that toppling Saddam Hussein was "illegal" and admits that the US-led coalition's presence in Iraq has a legal framework in the shape of the UN mandate.

zing!

4 posted on 09/18/2008 4:57:09 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: DrBombbay

It all depends on what the definition of “is” is...


5 posted on 09/18/2008 5:15:09 PM PDT by Nachum (Sarah Palin: Baberaham Lincoln)
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To: DrBombbay
Notwithstanding that what Obama did was incredulous...the obvious remains: He told the Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari one thing, and now he is claiming he meant something else and denying Zebari's accounts of the meeting. To be publically suggesting that Zebari is wrong is a huge diplomatic faux pas. He is causing Zebari to lose face, not a tactic that is appreciated by world leaders. Obama is sure a real "uniter" isn't he? Is that what Obama considers diplomacy?

As typical, Obama is trying to get out of the hole as he always does when he digs himself into one -- by throwing dirt on someone else or accusing them of being mistaken. Is that presidential?

We have all met this type of person - the double-talking con-artist who is actually a pathological liar and who can never remember what he said. When faced with being challenged, or even have his original words repeated, Obama is always prepared to add another lie. It is innate with him, a trait that he doesn't even know he has and is detrimental. It is how he has played the game for most of his life and no one has challenged him on it. Like the Clintons, Obama says whatever he thinks will convince people when he wants to make an impression. But Obama is not as good at it as the Clintons, or as intelligent, and they were much more practiced. When Obama's words backfire later and he is faced with them, he just lies as easily as you and I breath.

Now he is under world-wide scrutiny. I am sure that Zebari is not pleased! Heads of state are not going to take Obama's habit of constant back-peddling lightly, and I am sure they are very interested in this situation with Zebari. If Obama becomes POTUS he will cause utter chaos around the world with these type antics.

6 posted on 09/18/2008 5:59:36 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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But wait. Don’t you know he’s a breath of fresh air? That ought to wow the pants right off AhmaNeedaJihad, Putin, KimJungWhatever and the rest of the boys. Works in Hollywood, why not on the world stage?


7 posted on 09/18/2008 6:07:23 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!
Don’t you know he’s a breath of fresh air?

I just finished watching Hannity's interview with Gov. Sarah Palin, a true breath of fresh air.

Obama's arrival on the scene gave us all a whiff of air that was not fresh. Old, tired, and stale. From the sorry past of decrepit marxists.

8 posted on 09/18/2008 6:57:22 PM PDT by Octar
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To: DrBombbay

Obama lies, the MSM swears to it. Differnt leftist candidate, same ole same ole.


9 posted on 09/18/2008 7:00:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: DrBombbay

I haven’t heard anything about this from Pravda... err I mean the American press.


10 posted on 09/18/2008 10:23:50 PM PDT by Tempest (The devil and the media have sided with Obama)
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