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The Bipolar Puzzle
NY Times ^ | September 14, 2008 | JENNIFER EGAN

Posted on 09/14/2008 8:57:03 PM PDT by neverdem

When Claire, a pixie-faced 6-year-old in a school uniform, heard her older brother, James, enter the family’s Manhattan apartment, she shut her bedroom door and began barricading it so swiftly and methodically that at first I didn’t understand what she was doing. She slid a basket of toys in front of the closed door, then added a wagon and a stroller laden with dolls. She hugged a small stuffed Pegasus to her chest. “Pega always protects me,” she said softly. “Pega, guard the door.”

James, then 10, had been given a diagnosis of bipolar disorder two years earlier. He was attending a therapeutic day school in another borough and riding more than an hour each way on a school bus, so he came home after Claire. Until James’s arrival that April afternoon, Claire was showing me sketches she had drawn of her Uglydolls and chatting about the Web site JibJab, where she likes to watch goofy videos. At the sound of James’s footsteps outside her bedroom door, she flattened herself behind the barricade. There was a sharp knock. After a few seconds, James’s angry, wounded voice barked, “Forget it,” and the steps retreated.

“If it’s my brother, I don’t open it,” Claire said. “I don’t care if I’m being mean. . . . I never trust him. James always jumps out and scares me. He surprises me in a bad way.”

I left Claire’s bedroom and found James with his mother, Mary, in their spacious living room, which has a sidelong view of the Hudson River. James is a fair, athletic-looking boy with a commanding voice and a restless, edgy gait. He began reading aloud a story he wrote at school called “The Mystery of My Little Sister.” It involved James discovering Claire almost dead, rescuing her and forming a...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: bipolardisorder; druggingchildren; health; lithium; medicine; mentalhealth; pediatricpsychiatry; pharmaceuticals; quackery; ssris
Lord have mercy.
1 posted on 09/14/2008 8:57:05 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Those used to beat the Devil out of those kind of kids, now they ask Oprah why the kids can’t explore their “boundaries” better.


2 posted on 09/14/2008 9:01:59 PM PDT by redstateconfidential ("Go to the mattresses")
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To: neverdem

It’s just sad. My son is autistic and has rages, and we are working on trying a new medicine regime, so I understand some of what they are going through. These doctors should never prescribe Ritalin for these kids. Two different doctors tried to put my son on stimulants, and he freaked out on them. The only other thing I would try to do is to look at the kids’ diets. It’s not the only thing that will help, but it might help a little bit. My 4 year old is NUTS when she has artificial food coloring. I thought we were going to have to take her to a psychiatrist. Once we found the food coloring problem and took her off, she’s a new kid.


3 posted on 09/14/2008 9:13:40 PM PDT by conservative cat ("In politics if you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman. " -MT)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like a job for Nanny 911


4 posted on 09/14/2008 9:14:21 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: neverdem
That doesn't sound like anybody with bi-polar disorder I ever knew. The kid sounds psychotic and in serious need of discipline. He's up and down like a yoyo. That little girl having to live in that home is not healthy, and is downright child abuse. One can only imagine what James' behavior will be when he becomes a teenager. He sounds like he's jealous of his little sister and a sadistic bully. Maybe they should see if there is something wrong with that mother.

I couldn't read the whole thing because there was too much pathology there. Where was the father?

Maybe I shouldn't comment as I'm not a professional. Lord have mercy is right.

5 posted on 09/14/2008 9:19:47 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: redstateconfidential
You know... I'm sorry, but... I read this and all I see are parents who just keep trying to figure out how to give these children whatever they want the moment they want it. How to appease them. And I'm not a psychiatrist, and someone will show up shortly to tell me that I don't know anything about it, and what have you.

But the fact is, my stepdad would have FLATTENED any kid who acted like that. And I can't help but think that no kid would act like that around him after that one time. I know I was kind of a brat when he came along, and one day I went too far and... well, the rest is a blur. But I sure never pulled any stunts again. Ditto my younger sister.

Well... I guess that's all I'll say about it.

6 posted on 09/14/2008 9:25:07 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: redstateconfidential

“James took the pill. Then he closed the door to block out the sound of his sister. “You open this door, Claire, I’ll pull out something really sharp on you,” he said.”

I was a little asshole when I was a kid but if I’d said that to my little brother my dad would have beaten me senseless. It might not fix how screwed up this kid is but a belt and a sack of oranges would go a long way.


7 posted on 09/14/2008 9:32:28 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: neverdem

Interesting info. I’m gung-ho for behavior modification and believe and teach my kids that our brains and biology belong to us, not vice versa.

But the absolute commitment and devotion that those parents show to those kids the article discusses is amazing. We can all shake our fingers and meet out our wisdom, but those parents also exemplify unconditional love. It is moving.

My prayers are with them.


8 posted on 09/14/2008 9:36:34 PM PDT by WKL815 (If the phrase "personal responsibility" makes you defensive, you may be a liberal.)
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To: Aliska

Agreed. My mom was bipolar so I am familiar with the swings - a mad ascent into irrationality that would eventually require hospitalization followed by descent into darkest gloom. Never was there a hint of the behavior mentioned here. Sounds more like an extremely spoiled child who enjoys ruling the roost.


9 posted on 09/14/2008 9:39:57 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: neverdem

“I would be crying, Claire would be crying and my husband would be crying.”

Sounds like Daddy is your average metrosexual wannabe incapable of controlling his son’s behavior. At least the kid is off to boarding school....for now.

Say, doesn’t this sound like the beginning plot of a serial killer movie?


10 posted on 09/14/2008 10:05:28 PM PDT by John Williams ("The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it.")
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

I met one of these rules the roost kids a few years back. It was a sight to behold. It was at a party at the house of a coworker of my husband. The co-owner of their place of employment showed up way late. His then 8 year old daughter looked mad. She had her arms folded and a scowl on her face. I watched as this man and his wife literally pleaded with her so they could stay at the party. He appeased her by setting the alarm on his watch to go off at a certain time—only a few minutes later—maybe 30 or so, and they would leave then. Well, when the time was up they left just like the little girl had insisted.


11 posted on 09/14/2008 10:06:22 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: neverdem

Problem solved:

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12 posted on 09/14/2008 10:08:18 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: neverdem

I refuse to go to NYT site so I’ll just ask; Where’s Daddy?


13 posted on 09/14/2008 10:17:26 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: fella

He’s there.


14 posted on 09/14/2008 10:19:06 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem
Then at 10 years old it's almost to late to start but Dad needs to take control of his family warm that boys pants but good and repeat as necessary. When the idea that bad actions have consequences then he'll straighten right.

Some time in the Boy Scouts wouldn't hurt a bit either. Get him out of the city to see the real world so that he'll know what it is to be hot and cold and maybe even hungry.

15 posted on 09/14/2008 10:28:58 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: neverdem
Then at 10 years old it's almost to late to start but Dad needs to take control of his family warm that boys pants but good and repeat as necessary. When the idea that bad actions have consequences sets in then he'll straighten right.

Some time in the Boy Scouts wouldn't hurt a bit either. Get him out of the city to see the real world so that he'll know what it is to be hot and cold and maybe even hungry.

16 posted on 09/14/2008 10:29:42 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: neverdem
Then at 10 years old it's almost to late to start but Dad needs to take control of his family warm that boys pants but good and repeat as necessary. When the idea that bad actions have consequences sets in then he'll straighten right up.

Some time in the Boy Scouts wouldn't hurt a bit either. Get him out of the city to see the real world so that he'll know what it is to be hot and cold and maybe even hungry.

17 posted on 09/14/2008 10:30:22 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: A_perfect_lady
As a teacher who taught special education for 25 of the 35 years I taught, I really must agree—at least to an extent. During the time I was in graduate school, I vividly remember 2 of the most useful bits of advice I was ever given by professors. My Ed Psych professor, father of 6 children, told the class that “sometimes the best use of a psychology text was to apply it FIRMLY to the child's backside”. My Abnornal Psych professor told us that “one of the most important concepts children can learn is that behavior has consequences”.

There is no “special education world” for special needs children once they graduate from high school. The guiding precept must always be “how can I teach this child to fit into the real world”. How will they deal with bosses, co-workers, family, friends, neighbors? When they fly into a “rage”, in the real world, either the police, or a bigger stronger bar patron, will knock their block off. There are some behaviors that just cannot be tolerated, period—threatening to gut your little sister is one of them. Or threatening a parent.

Sometimes it's a not a bad thing for children to understand that their rages can provoke a controlled version of that emotion in their parents. It's the way human emotions work in the real world.

18 posted on 09/14/2008 10:35:44 PM PDT by singfreedom (Obama's solution to the energy crisis: check the air in your tires! Why didn't we think of that?)
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To: fella

I’m reading many of the comments here, and many are not recognizing we’re talking about a serious mental illness, not just a spoiled kid. I’ve known families who were abused for generations by a bipolar. These folks can be sadistic, and they act out of a total sense of entitlement. In one case I know very well, the man had abused and alienated his entire family, including having abused his little sister when they were young. He had an endless series of stories about how he was such a great guy but for some strange reason all these people hated him.

In another case I know, a bipolar woman was telling people her brother in law was molesting his children. She thought that was a hilarious joke to play on him.

I’ve also read of bipolars killing family members.

To put it bluntly, they are seriously crazy and can be dangerous.


19 posted on 09/14/2008 10:41:03 PM PDT by Williams
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20 posted on 09/14/2008 11:02:18 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

The younger sister was truly being abused. She deserved to be protected. The parents should have sent the older brother away long before rather than subject their younger child to such a dreadful environment. Difficult decision? Maybe. But keeping an older, bigger, aggressive, jealous, out-of-control child around a smaller, weaker child is neglect at best and unwitting abuse at worst. Remember that kid in Florida who “accidentally” killed the little girl he was babysitting?


21 posted on 09/14/2008 11:34:21 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: A_perfect_lady

It’s interesting that when I was growing up kids didn’t have the kinds of behavior problems they have now. I wonder why? It was unheard of. Maybe it’s that society wasn’t as sick as it is now. Something is really wrong, and don’t tell me that some kids just have problems. Something is going on but I can’t exactly say what. I know one thing though, people were normal back then and most people agreed on how things were supposed to be done. I think part of the problem is that liberals second guess everything. Be it the teacher or the parent, the liberal expert always has a better idea. But their ideas stink because they don’t acknowlege God into the equation. So their solution is to drug the kids when their ideas don’t work. Maybe a good old fashioned butt kick would work better, but the liberals wouldn’t allow that.


22 posted on 09/14/2008 11:45:16 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: neverdem

“At one point Claire appeared in the next room, and James hurled a ball at her, missing. Claire shrieked as if she’d been hit, screaming, “What did you do that for?”

“Wow, I’m scared,” James said. “I’m scared, right, Claire?” He threw the ball at her again, then asked, “Want to have family time?”

I’ve personally seen this in over psychoanalyzed families. The child is acting out, hurting and frightening other people, and the parents are soothing the child with “You are upset” or “You are frightened” or some such twaddle.

I’ve never seen good come from such treatments. That poor child Claire is going to be lucky if she grows up halfway normal.


23 posted on 09/14/2008 11:52:08 PM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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To: neverdem

“Claire, you’re overreacting.”

Oh no she’s not. Her brother needs to be institutionalized. Her parents are incredibly indulgent and ignorant, and the little girl is the one who bears the brunt of it all.


24 posted on 09/15/2008 3:46:11 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: neverdem
That kid needs to be not told but shown who's boss. Clearly it isn't the parents.

Give me a week with him. Hell a day.

I fear for that little girls life.

25 posted on 09/15/2008 4:01:32 AM PDT by poobear (“…individual salvation depends on collective salvation." Barack Hussein Obama Wesleyan University)
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To: ViLaLuz
Uhh, "No". The boy needs to have his butt kicked and the girl needs to be told to shuttup. Repeat as necessary.

What's that they say? It's all about choices. It's the parents that need the help; they've chosen to be bad parents. They've chosen to not discipline their children, prefering instead to shift their responsibilities to the courts and the taxpayers to bear the burden of their social maleficience. Typical libtards.

26 posted on 09/15/2008 5:44:26 AM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

The earth is bipolar


27 posted on 09/15/2008 6:22:42 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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