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Antarctic winter ice gets bigger; Arctic shrinks
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Posted on 09/12/2008 7:38:08 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Antarctic winter ice gets bigger; Arctic shrinks 12 Sep 2008 13:56:24 GMT Source: Reuters By Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent

OSLO, Sept 12 (Reuters) - The amount of sea ice around Antarctica has grown in recent Septembers in what could be an unusual side-effect of global warming, experts said on Friday.

In the southern hemisphere winter, when emperor penguins huddle together against the biting cold, ice on the sea around Antarctica has been increasing since the late 1970s, perhaps because climate change means shifts in winds, sea currents or snowfall.

At the other end of the planet, Arctic sea ice is now close to matching a September 2007 record low at the tail end of the northern summer in a threat to the hunting lifestyles of indigenous peoples and creatures such as polar bears.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; environment; globalcooling; globalwarming; theskyisfalling; wereallgonnadie
Add this to the stack of nonsense.....

Oh and how cute, penguins, polar bears and indigenous people.......

1 posted on 09/12/2008 7:38:08 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
The amount of sea ice around Antarctica has grown in recent Septembers in what could be an unusual side-effect of global warming,

I'm sure this was written with a straight face.

2 posted on 09/12/2008 7:39:48 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Sub-Driver
OSLO, Sept 12 (Reuters) - The amount of sea ice around Antarctica has grown in recent Septembers in what could be an unusual side-effect of global warming, experts said on Friday.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaagh

Gotta love the experts

3 posted on 09/12/2008 7:42:28 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Sub-Driver
could..perhaps..probably..likely..might..

How sad that these are the crown jewels in today's scientific literature.

4 posted on 09/12/2008 7:43:00 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Sub-Driver
At the other end of the planet, Arctic sea ice is now close to matching a September 2007 record low at the tail end of the northern summer ...

Could this be a side-effect of gloabal cooling?

5 posted on 09/12/2008 7:43:58 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Sub-Driver

How convenient that Global Warming(tm) can be used to explain everything from Global Warming to um... Global Cooling!

Any scientist who mentions ‘Global Warming’ as fact should be stripped of their credentials and fired.


6 posted on 09/12/2008 7:45:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Sub-Driver

My God! The Earth Is Going To Flip End Over End! Help Me! I have Fallen And Can’t Find UP!


7 posted on 09/12/2008 7:45:21 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Sub-Driver; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; calcowgirl; Horusra; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 09/12/2008 7:45:21 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Sub-Driver
Antarctic winter ice gets bigger; Arctic shrinks

No secret what's shrinking that Artic ice.
Blame Canada.
And all the huffin' and puffin' of those "Ice Road Truckers!". (/sarc)
And mining operations and drilling for energy.

(Funny, Democrats think Canada is superior to the USA...
but do all they can to prevent the USA from following the
Canadian lead in getting at natural resources!)
9 posted on 09/12/2008 7:45:51 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Sub-Driver
It's winter in the Antarctic and ice has increased.
It's summer in the Arctic and ice has decreased.

Film at 11.

10 posted on 09/12/2008 7:48:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Michelle, spare me your phony outrage, you know as well as I do that dress makes your butt look big)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have a problem with shrinkage in the winter time.


11 posted on 09/12/2008 7:52:53 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Sub-Driver

“The amount of sea ice around Antarctica has grown in recent Septembers in what could be an unusual side-effect of global warming, experts said on Friday.”

It is NOT “global warming” if the average temperature is going down, not up. The warmest year on record, by ALL accounts, was 1998. I expect we’re about to see some more significant cooling at least over the next decade, based on three independent factors (solar cycle, MD ocean oscillations, and volcanism).

The perpetrators have tried to shift the mantra to “climate change”, but even they know that’s silly. It has to be “human caused climate change”. BUT, that doesn’t work either, since it’s quite obvious that we’re not causing the cooling.

The next attack vector will be that “the cooling is just temporary, and as soon as the x/y/z factor goes away the planet will start warming again”. To which, the only sane response is, “Fine, but in the meantime WE’LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS rather than making otherwise detrimental and extremely expensive decisions NOW”. $45 trillion is only the beginning. ;-)

Perhaps at some point someone will think to address the elephant in the room, which is to say total human population. On the other hand, the cooling may take care of any surplus.


12 posted on 09/12/2008 7:53:05 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow! What luck!
That means that Antarctica will be heavier and the earth will be in less danger of flipping upside down!

(JOKING!! Although, Al Gore did point out in a picture from space that the earth was ‘upside down’.)


13 posted on 09/12/2008 8:08:14 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Sub-Driver
At the other end of the planet, Arctic sea ice is now close to matching a September 2007 record low at the tail end of the northern summer in a threat to the hunting lifestyles of indigenous peoples and creatures such as polar bears.

Translation from botspeak: Contrary to last year's hysterical predictions, the Arctic ice held larger this year than last year's summer melt.

14 posted on 09/12/2008 9:12:41 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Sub-Driver
"What's happening is not unexpected...Climate modellers predicted a long time ago that the Arctic would warm fastest and the Antarctic would be stable for a long time," said Ted Maksym, a sea ice specialist at the British Antarctic Survey.

That is completely wrong. It is only in the last year or two that the climate modelers started saying "our models show Antarctic may not warm at all for awhile". Of course, this is due to the fact that Antarctic temps have actually been falling and not increasing as the models had predicted.

If the models had predicted that Antarctic temps would not fall for a long time, then why was Hansen and Gore out there trumpeting Antarctic ice melt - rapid sea level increase - for so long.

All the old model predictions and those shown in the IPCC reports even, predicted greater warming in Antarctica and the Arctic than other areas. These global warmers have no problem lying and distorting history whenever they want.

15 posted on 09/12/2008 9:41:16 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Sub-Driver

So ice is traveling like hair on a middle-aged man’s head or weight on a middle-aged woman’s body.


16 posted on 09/12/2008 11:01:21 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (McCain/Palin: Moose ex machina)
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17 posted on 09/12/2008 11:14:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Piquaboy
I have a problem with shrinkage in the winter time.

That's what them little blue pills are for.

18 posted on 09/12/2008 11:16:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Sub-Driver; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
" Arctic sea ice is now close to matching a September 2007 record low ...."

Another way of saying this: "Arctic sea ice cover is this year is greater than it was during last September's record low ...." IOW -- there's more of the stuff -- it might be growing back!



See that -- there's still more ice than there was last year. More!
19 posted on 09/12/2008 11:43:57 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Sub-Driver

Perhaps due to geomagnetic reversal caused the the Earth’s passing through the galactic plane or a pole shift.


20 posted on 09/12/2008 11:52:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The MSM can’t find Chicago either... funny how that can’t see stuff that might undermine their preconceived notions.


21 posted on 09/12/2008 6:01:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (Biden and Obama voted for the "bridge to No-Where". Why doesn't the MSM care?)
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To: AU72
The amount of sea ice around Antarctica has grown in recent Septembers in what could be an unusual side-effect of global warming,

If the whole planet froze over, they would say the same thing. Liberals are people who seldom let a few facts get in their way.

22 posted on 09/12/2008 6:03:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Biden and Obama voted for the "bridge to No-Where". Why doesn't the MSM care?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Is there anything that can’t be attributed to global warming or George Bush?


23 posted on 09/12/2008 6:07:55 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: JustDoItAlways
If the models had predicted that Antarctic temps would not fall for a long time, then why was Hansen and Gore out there trumpeting Antarctic ice melt - rapid sea level increase - for so long.

Fall or rise?

I don't remember Hansen or Gore ever predicting major Antarctic ice melt in the near-term (next coupla centuries). Greenland, yes.

24 posted on 09/15/2008 7:07:16 AM PDT by cogitator
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