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(Ohio) Absentee-ballot policy under fire (Democrat tosses out McCain absentee ballots)
Columbus Dispatch ^ | Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:14 AM | Mark Niquette

Posted on 09/11/2008 10:59:13 AM PDT by weegee

In the 2004 presidential race, Democrats cried foul when Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell initially ordered that voter-registration cards be rejected if the paper used wasn't thick enough.

Now, Republican John McCain's campaign is complaining that Blackwell's successor, Democrat Jennifer Brunner, has decided that certain absentee-ballot applications should be rejected if a box on the form isn't checked.

McCain's camp is worried that potentially thousands of requests for absentee ballots will be rejected and voters forced to reapply -- if they get notice that their application wasn't accepted, said Jon Seaton, McCain's regional campaign manager.

At issue is a mailing that McCain sent last week to more than 1 million Ohioans urging them to vote early by requesting an absentee ballot. The form included space for voters to provide the required personal information.

But Brunner ordered last week that if voters do not check a box next to a statement that says, "I am a qualified elector and would like to receive an absentee ballot," the application should be rejected and the voter notified that his or her request is deficient.

Brunner, who said county elections officials had asked about the issue, argued that by not checking the box, voters would not meet a legal requirement that every request contain a statement that the person is a qualified elector.

She noted that on the state's application form, there is a statement directly above a signature line that says the applicant attests to being a qualified voter. McCain's form has that statement next to the box to be checked.

"Failure to check the box leaves both the applicant and the board of elections without verification that the applicant is a 'qualified elector,' " Brunner wrote, recommending that those voters be sent a letter with the state's form.

But Seaton, who did not suggest that partisan motives were at play, argued that the forms mailed by the campaign should be accepted as long as all other required information is provided.

He also said that similar absentee-ballot forms sent out last fall by U.S. Rep. Bob Latta, R-Bowling Green, when he was running in a special election to replace the late Paul Gillmor, were accepted even if the box wasn't checked. "The form includes all the necessary requirements and has been used in past elections, so this election should be no different," Seaton said. "Qualified voters who request absentee ballots should receive them."

Brunner spokesman Jeff Ortega said no questions were raised about Latta's mailing at the time but that state law requires, among other things, both the voter's signature and a statement that the person is a qualified elector.

"This office believes the law is crystal clear on this issue," Ortega said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2008; cultureofcorruption; democrats; democratscheat; disenfranchised; elections; howtostealanelectin; jenniferbrunner; mccainpalin; ohio; votefraud
This article seems to distort the issue. The box is not required. The Democrat is saying that the box must be checked if it is there.
1 posted on 09/11/2008 11:00:10 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
(Democrat) Push to get homeless to vote (in Ohio) (guess who) Wednesday, September 10, 2008
2 posted on 09/11/2008 11:01:30 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: weegee

If the box is not required, then disqualifying someone who did not check the box is an obvious, blatant attempt to disenfranchise those voters. This woman should be fired.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 11:03:01 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: weegee

Dems are going to do anything they can to try to win Ohio. No matter how low handed. They tried to cheat in our Ohio election in 2004. But Ken Blackwell stood against them and kept our election process clean.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 11:07:05 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: GloriaJane

Where is Blackwell now?


5 posted on 09/11/2008 11:12:36 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: Bobkk47

And funny how we get accused of trying to steal an election. We only steal it when we win I guess!


6 posted on 09/11/2008 11:12:55 AM PDT by claymax (Vote for a HERO...........not for the ZERO!)
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To: wequalswinner

Back home in Cincinnati I think.


7 posted on 09/11/2008 11:14:03 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: rocksblues

bttt


8 posted on 09/11/2008 11:15:27 AM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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To: weegee

Now we see how important it is for voters not to get mad at a Republican Governor like Taft, stay home, and allow a Dem to become Governor. Maybe someday people will get it through their brains that we need Republican Governors and quit this crap of staying home or voting for a Dem if they don’t like the GOP candidate because there are consequences like what we are seeing with a Dem Secretary of State.

This means that in Ohio we need more votes then ever for Sen McCain to make sure we can defeat the Dem election tactics.


9 posted on 09/11/2008 11:16:47 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! McCainNow.com; LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: weegee
Of course, Republicans could stay a step ahead of the Rats by printing the disclaimer correspondingly above the signature line, with no check-box.

With all the Rat vote fraud in the last 80 plus years, you would think that the Republicans would have learned how to play the game by now.

10 posted on 09/11/2008 11:20:21 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: weegee
Ohio’s Dem Sec. of State Seeking To Disenfranchise McCain Voters

If the box stating the person is an eligible elector — or qualified voter – is not checked, Brunner said, the application is no good.

Even though the box is unneeded, by not checking it voters are essentially admitting they’re not eligible, Brunner said.

Brunner was elected in 2006 on a campaign encouraging fewer restrictions on voters

11 posted on 09/11/2008 11:33:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: weegee
It sounds like the McCain camp created their own form that has a box you check to attest that you are qualified to vote, while the state's form has the comment about being a qualified voter by the signature box.

The state has a well designed form, and the McCain camp made theirs unnecessarily more complicated and created this problem where if the box isn't checked, the request for a ballot doesn't meet the legal requirements.

It's a stupid mistake by the McCain campaign in an important swing state they can't afford to lose.

However, it really isn't unreasonable for the Secretary of State to reject those requests for absentee ballots, and if Blackwell were still Secretary of State he probably would have rejected them. He successfully fought both the Democrats and Republicans in court when they tried to bend elections laws.

The McCain camp better do it's best to get word out that if people didn't check the box on their form, they need to submit another request for absentee ballots.

12 posted on 09/11/2008 11:51:42 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: wequalswinner
He lost to Strickland in the Governor's race, so he's at least temporarily out of politics.

He's a good man, if a bit strict on following the letter of the law where elections are concerned. Hopefully he will run for office again.

13 posted on 09/11/2008 11:53:44 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: weegee

And so the voter fraud begins - by the democrats, as always.


14 posted on 09/11/2008 11:54:32 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: weegee
"Failure to check the box leaves both the applicant and the board of elections without verification that the applicant is a 'qualified elector,' " Brunner wrote, recommending that those voters be sent a letter with the state's form.


What a sad state of affairs that checking a box verifies one's qualifications to participate in our elections. Of course, no one would ever check that without being a citizen and registered voter ;)
15 posted on 09/11/2008 11:57:15 AM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: untrained skeptic

If the article is correct McCain’s people made a $440,000 dollar mistake by putting a box to check where it is not needed.


16 posted on 09/11/2008 12:08:35 PM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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To: weegee

I just looked at my application for a ballot for Ohio and there is no box to check. The ballot request requires phone number, last 4 digits of SSN or drivers license number, date of birth, and signature.

Seems to me if someone furnishes all of the requested info., they should receive a ballot.

My ballot request came from the Franklin County Board of Elections.


17 posted on 09/11/2008 12:14:33 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

How can anyone tell if the receipient of the absentee ballot will vote Democrat or Republican?


18 posted on 09/11/2008 12:28:04 PM PDT by Justeggsactly
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To: weegee
I think people would be stunned to learn the level of fraud that occurs in the election offices of certain areas.

My brother relayed this story to me a couple of years ago.

He and his family had moved to San Francisco and he mailed in a voter registration card with "Republican" listed as party affiliation.

No card arrived after a couple of weeks, so he applied again - again marking "Republican" as his affiliation.

Again, no card in the mail.

Once more, he sent in his card marked "Republican". Two weeks went by with no card.

Then he sent in a voter registration card with "Democrat" listed as party affiliation.

He had his card in four days.

19 posted on 09/11/2008 12:36:03 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Obviously, liberals can't handle a strong, independent woman.)
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To: Justeggsactly
How can anyone tell if the recipient of the absentee ballot will vote Democrat or Republican?

They can't; however, if the McCain Campaign sends out the forms, they are pretty sure the recipients are going to overwhelmingly vote for him.

20 posted on 09/11/2008 12:53:23 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

How much you want to bet all the applications with last names like “Lopez” and “Menendez” and “Rodriguz” will be upheld even if they didn’t check the box?


21 posted on 09/11/2008 1:16:06 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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To: Bobkk47
... by not checking the box, voters would not meet a legal requirement that every request contain a statement that the person is a qualified elector.
22 posted on 09/11/2008 1:23:54 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: weegee

Sorry, the Dems got us on this one. It was stupid to put the box on the form. It was stupid to make up a new form at all. They should have exactly duplicated whatever form the state uses.


23 posted on 09/11/2008 1:24:47 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: weegee

We should storm her office and force her to back down.


24 posted on 09/11/2008 1:34:40 PM PDT by montag813 (www.BoycottUsWeekly.com | Fight the Smears | Fight the Sexism)
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To: GloriaJane

They ain’t gonna be able to rig the vote, since the gap BO looses by will be to large...


25 posted on 09/11/2008 1:37:46 PM PDT by Edgerunner (At the heart of every absurdity, lies a liberal lie)
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To: montag813; LS

Then they should be able to get a provisional ballot, right?


26 posted on 09/11/2008 1:38:27 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Robert Byrd - Ex community organizer)
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To: weegee

If McCain’s people added such a box, showing it as a requirement, then it is required.

I can’t fault the officials who want to enforce the rules McCain made.


27 posted on 09/11/2008 1:42:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (1 conservative = 5 RINOs. You can expect 4 out of 5 RINOs to bolt to the liberal side on any vote.)
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To: Edgerunner
Don't be so sure. In Chicago, they are registering the homeless. Since these people have no fixed address, they can appear at various polling places, with various names and addresses. Attempts to question them will lead to charges of racism. Similar hijinx can take place in Cleveland and Cincinnati. (A little reported story is that democrats committed massive voter fraud in Milwaukee during the Bush-Kerry election. Eventually the fraud was discovered and several people went to jail. But the Milwaukee fraud, involving inner city blacks and white Marquette U students, was enough to cost Bush the close Wisconsin state election. McCain should win Wisconsin this time.)
28 posted on 09/11/2008 1:49:24 PM PDT by Godwin1 (godwin)
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To: weegee

I’m surprised how many people are blindly opposing the Secretary of State. It was stupid of McCain to use anything other than the exact standard form. Do Freepers REALLY want to issue ballots to people who have a big unchecked box by the line “I am eligible to vote?”


29 posted on 09/11/2008 1:59:53 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: TexasNative2000
That is a shocking story.
30 posted on 09/11/2008 2:14:00 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Thane_Banquo

Well, there aren’t many of those in Ohio.


31 posted on 09/11/2008 2:21:38 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama who?)
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To: Godwin1
There was double voting by college students throughout Wisconsin in 2004. It was driven by the Kerry campaign and fueled by BDS. The difference this time is the Bradley Factor. I have had conversations with white collar workers in the SW part of the state that were shocking for the intensity of hatred towards zerO. It is part racism and part because of his arrogance, lack of a positive legislative record and his age. I am fairly certain a majority of these anti-BHO voters did vote for Kerry in 2004.

We have hockey moms and female deer hunters, here.I think if the vote isn't close, this time, GOP can take the state. I was hearing positive comments about McCain from some old hippies back a couple of years ago, so they won't feel like traitors for voting for McCain.

32 posted on 09/11/2008 2:23:14 PM PDT by reformedliberal (God bless Saracuda America, speaking truth to power.)
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To: weegee

btt


33 posted on 09/11/2008 6:54:59 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: untrained skeptic
It's a stupid mistake

The media will probably describe it as a dirty trick designed to somehow steal the election for McCain.

34 posted on 09/11/2008 8:12:14 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: weegee

Remember 2000 in Florida where the dems dispatched a memo and lawyers to disqualify absentee (military) voters? They are organized about this stuff.


35 posted on 09/11/2008 8:55:12 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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