Posted on 09/06/2008 11:46:13 PM PDT by goldstategop
But now, after a chaotic introductory week that sparked national debates on McCain's judgment, Palin's experience and even her teenage daughter's pregnancy, the initial signs are not entirely positive for the reinvigorated Republican ticket.
Interviews with some two dozen women here after Palin's convention speech found that these voters were not swayed by the fiery dramatic speeches or compelling personal biographies that marked both the Republican and Democratic conventions. Instead, they were thinking about the price of milk -- nearly $5 a gallon -- or the healthcare coverage that many working families here cannot afford.
Even if they admire Palin's attempt to juggle political ambition, an infant son with Down syndrome and a pregnant unwed daughter, these women say that maternal grit is not enough to win their votes.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
This is a sample barely more mathematically impressive than "my wife told me..."
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
It isn’t the working class women. It is working class men and the Republican base who are attracted to Palin.
Pollster John Zogby: “Clearly, Palin is helping the McCain ticket. She has high favorability numbers, and has unified the Republican Party. The striking thing here in this poll is that McCain has pulled ahead among Catholics by double-digits. On the other hand, Palin is not helping with likely voting women who are not aligned with either political party. The undecided independent women voters decreased this week from 15% to 7%, but those women went to Obama. Palin is also helping among men, conservatives, notably with suburban and rural voters, and with frequent Wal-Mart shoppers, who tend to be “values” voters who like a good value for their money.”
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1548
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
If not random, it has even less validity.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Won’t make much of a difference in a week. By then McCain will be ahead of Obama in most of the polls out there.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Here"? Where is "here"? There at the LA Times news desk? Ha! Might as well conduct your 24-woman survey over at NOW or at the local ACLU branch, or maybe at Code Pink. Yeah, I'm sure they got a really random sampling...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
What is the margin of error? + or - 22.5 %. Fer cryin out loud.
It is comedic to watch the newspapers, magazines, network and cable TV stations DO ANYTHING to bash her.
Outlandish stories, wild accusations, an Oprah snuff...the Liberals will do anything for Obama, even compromise their journalistic ethics, if they ever had any.
The Indonesian must be really in full poopy-pants mode.
Maybe the surveyed the burqua crowd at a Mosque.
They will vote for Hussein.
Some science there, LA Times.
‘Two dozen women here.’
What the....?
These are the kind of stories you get when you drag a $1 bill through an MSM journalism center these days.
BTW...Do any of these idiots who complain about the high cost of things ever look at who they are voting for in their state?
This poll being quoted by Zogby is older, you need to wait until this Tuesday or Wednesday to see any real numbers.
Rasmussen sees otherwise.
They meant to say “interviews with two dozen women who are friends of LA Times reporters”
I’m sure it’s a carefully selected sample to tell them just what they want to hear.....
I've never seen such a frenzy to turn someone back and discredit them.
A Woman like Palin could be likened to a female Elvis.
At the time Elvis emerged a lot of people tried to condemn his music and his performance style. We know how that turned out.
In the political world Palin is being afforded a similar type of opportunity.
Just ask Andrea Mitchell. "I am somewhere."
You gotta love these "may be" stories. They should rewrite them for what they really are: "we wish" stories.
For every "may be" there is the opposite "but may not be" part of the story, too, that somehow never gets written.
-PJ
Okay, this one's a waitress making $10.50/hr who wants to send her daughter to college. I have no argument with any of that, but if this poor woman thinks Obambi understands ANYTHING about the economy or about how she lives, she's delusional. Her daughter will be better off entering beauty contests to win money for college (that's what Gov. Palin did) rather than wait for the Obambi to ride to the rescue.
I guess so.
Twelve women is not exactly a force.
I’d bet money that the 2 dozen women “interviewed” all worked at a topless nightclub, and the whole evening was expensed as “field research”.
You have to admit the headline is better than “Monkeys May Be Flying Out Of My Butt”.
Is this the way idiots in California think people from Pennsylvania talk? I'll be danged? Seriously? Hell they don't even talk that way in West Virginia anymore. Was the LA Times reporterette channeling Marshal McCloud in some bong haze or what?
We've also got a quote from a 63 year-oldlifelong feminist in Uniontown. Sure.
Forget about the confidence interval on a non-random sample of 24 fictional Pennsylvanians; my bullsh!tometer has gone of the scale. It's just push polling, and not even very sophisticated push polling at that.
Dang? Dang? You jag-offs in California make me laugh.
What, as opposed to that “everyman” appeal of lawyer cum plagiarist Joe Biden? Oh yeah, LameStream Media...he has really got it goin’ on when it comes to across the board appeal.
bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
The LSM’s hatred of Palin is just more evidence that McCain made a great choice.
This is a sample barely more mathematically impressive than “ The girls at the spa say...”
I can see these two writing a similar article in 1980....
‘Ronald Reagan’s Appeal To Southern Evangelicals May Be Limited’
Wishful thinking rat droppings.
The unsaid in this article is shouting at me. The reporter claimed she interviewed two dozen women and quoted five of them. (Incidentally I felt the reporter’s disdain for those women, even though they were supposedly going to vote “the right way”.) However, she did not write those two dozen women had decided and were all going to support Obama. She only wrote that each woman claimed her rationale for her vote was bread and butter issues. That doesn’t mean they support Obama necessarily. In fact, around two-thirds of those interviewed may have said they liked Palin and McCain and were going to vote for them and the article, as written, would still be “accurate”. It appears to me to be a skewed, anecdotal hit piece on Palin, cleverly phrased to support the reporter’s thesis.
That said, Artice had already decided that her vote would go to the first candidate who mentioned gasoline prices. "And -- I'll be danged -- it was Obama," Artice, 46, said between servings of liver and onions during the lunch rush.I see Jason Blair has a new job and ID.
[Interviewing white male blue collar workers would create an unwanted impression so they skipped that demographic.]
You just know all those rust belt union boys will be quivering when they hit the voting booths because they know McCain and Palin are more their type - no matter what they’ve told the pollsters and their union bosses.
No breakout of race: 97% of blacks are voting skin color, qualifications and issues and results be d*mned.
A number of posters on another thread agree with the thought that working and/or single mothers will not be swayed with a woman on the ticket unless that woman promises more government programs for their family. Due to the welfare state mentality put out there by Democratic politicians and the education system, they have no concept of their taking responsibility for their OWN welfare which is why the story rings true.
On the other side, however, there are Hispanic women, including some I work with, who dislike Obama because he's Black. As much as I dislike that attitude, it is out there and could be a hidden factor come election day if they go to the polls.
Obviously many voters are single-issue deciders but that isn’t what I saw in this issue. The journalist talked to more than twenty blue-collar working women. Of those “some two dozen” women, she found only five women worth quoting. Had the journalist found even a majority of the women she spoke with willing to commit to Obama, you can be sure that statistic would have been part of the story. Instead the only thing on which the women agreed was that their major concern was bread-and-butter domestic issues. It doesn’t say they all agreed that Obama/Biden was the best bread-and-butter candidates (although it sure as shootin’ gave that impression). Five of twenty-some women voting for Obama makes a news story for the Los Angeles Times. You have to write the news with the best spin possible. Another, less biased journalist could put the spin the other direction: “Obama fails to collar bread-and-butter voters”.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OCofbNqRJY
True: But that conclusion goes against everything the MSM/dnc/liberals have been taught since the Homestead strike in the 1870’s ....
Exactly. The article appears to be “accurate as written” but terribly biased in its presentation, which is why it is very difficult to take the media at their word that “they report, you decide”, even with Fox. Being a “vintage: American, I can recall Cronkite’s signoff on his nightly broadcast: “And that’s the way it is this (insert day, month and year)”. Even then I was screaming in my head, “no, that’s not the way it is, that’s the way you and your staff see it”.
The same author labels Pelosi as a "Centrist"....BWAHAHAHA.
Sarah Palin’s Appeal To Working Class Women May Be Limited
(MSM Pro Obama Hit Piece Alert)
Los Angeles Times | 9/07/2008 | Faye Fiore And Peter Wallsten
Posted on 09/06/2008 11:46:13 PM PDT by goldstategop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2076541/posts
Fusing Politics and Motherhood in New Way (NYT hit piece, how low can they go?)
New York Times | September 7, 2008 | Jodi Kantor, Kate Zernike, and Catrin Einhorn
Posted on 09/07/2008 8:03:19 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2077053/posts
Fusing Politics and Motherhood in New Way
The New York Times | September 7, 2008 | Jodi Kanto
Posted on 09/07/2008 11:51:08 PM PDT by Embargo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2077140/posts
-meanwhile-
Post Endorses John Mccain
(The New York Post: “...we’re in their corner to the finish.”)
The New York Post | September 8, 2008
Posted on 09/08/2008 2:36:05 AM PDT by Stoat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2077178/posts
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