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'Central Planning' in California
Strange Cosmos ^ | September 6, 2008 | Seadogbytes

Posted on 09/06/2008 4:38:03 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes

California 'Central Planning'
 
If you live in California,  you already know  that the Inmates have taken over the Asylum. 
 
...If you don't want to end up 'living in a condo by the Railroad Tracks', do yourself a favor and either
phone, or fax a letter to, Governor Schwartzenegger TODAY, urging him to oppose, and NOT sign SB 375.
 
See: http://reason.org/commentaries/staley_20080826.shtml for details...
(...and see below for Arnold's fax number/address.)

http://www.seadogbytes.com/sbimages/SB375_Steinberg.jpg

 

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 445-2841, ext. 0 (and tell them you oppose SB 375)
Fax: (916) 558-3160

 



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; callegislation; centralplanning; condorailroadtracks; darrellsteinberg; govwatch; sb375; schwarzenegger; sendarrellsteinberg; vetobait
Time is short. SB375 is on the Governor's desk awaiting signature.
1 posted on 09/06/2008 4:38:03 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes
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To: Seadog Bytes

Help us out - what does the measure say?


2 posted on 09/06/2008 4:47:15 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I don’t live in CA but for those that do, can you give them a summary so they have MORE reason to ACT?

TIA!!


3 posted on 09/06/2008 4:47:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Seadog Bytes

If you don’t want to end up ‘living in a condo by the Railroad Tracks’,

You should see all the new complexes in the silicon valley right next to RR tracks. It’s too late in some areas.

But I agree, No on SB375
BumP!


4 posted on 09/06/2008 4:52:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Seadog Bytes; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl
There's a whole pile of crappy legislation waiting on his desk and he's gonna sign most of it including SB483 which will clobber Senior Citizens who don't have the good sense to die or kill themselves if they get senile or chronically sick if they can't qualify for or afford Long-Term Care insurance!!!

I fully agree that SB375 just wipes out all local control in local hands and will destroy what little is left of individual private property rights in CA!!!

5 posted on 09/06/2008 4:54:17 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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FR Keyword

SB375

6 posted on 09/06/2008 4:54:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Well, actually a condo next to the railroad tracks would be my hubby’s dream-come-true. But then he is a train nut so what does he know? I’ll look into it.


7 posted on 09/06/2008 4:55:58 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I don’t live in California. What’s it about?


8 posted on 09/06/2008 5:01:44 PM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|ObamasUnity=EinVolk,EinReich,EinFuhrer)
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To: Seadog Bytes
H3ll, a condo by the RR tracks would be a luxury compared to some of the rentals out there. The middle class is being squeezed so hard in California, that unless you're on public assistance in public housing, or you make a whole pile of money, you may end up living in one room in someone else's house.

We've (my sig. other and I) have decided to get the h3ll out ASAP (we're just north of the L.A. area up in the high desert)... within two years, sooner if we can swing it financially.

The last two or three years have been brutal financially. We're thinking of one of the small towns in northern Arizona where we can pay HALF the rent and HALF the utilities.

The landlord here just raised the rent to $1,000. She thinks that because we work at home, we should pay her higher rent than if we commuted somewhere; but she's not in any hurry to repair things. Talk about money-hungry!

If I had the money, I'd get out of Dodge next week. My sig. other can't drive due to low vision, but he finally sees that the "good weather" here is trumped by other things, such as the high cost of living and the political climate, not to mention being overrun by illegals.

I've had it with California. I'm not from here originally. I've read that 40 years or so ago, the cost of living here wasn't all that much higher than in other major cities. However, over the ensuing years, it's gone crazy. There is a mortgage crisis out here (lots of vacant houses), but the rents haven't gone down.

I had left California three times before, but came back because I missed friends. However, this time I'm staying out. Maybe come back for a visit. But I'm sick and tired of being a hamster on a wheel... running ever faster, never catching up financially. Good-bye, People's Republic!

9 posted on 09/06/2008 5:03:50 PM PDT by pbmaltzman
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To: Seadog Bytes

I’d suggest changing the font on that poster, and perhaps the color. The current selection makes it difficult/slow to read, and you want to make it quick & easy.


10 posted on 09/06/2008 5:16:00 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: Seadog Bytes
Hard to believe.

Seadog Bytes is suggesting that conservatives try to influence a lame duck Democrat.

Good luck to you sir.

11 posted on 09/06/2008 5:30:18 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Argus
 
The bill seeks to have the state exert new influence over local jurisdictions (local matters) to adopt "preferred growth scenarios" (Read STATE-preferred densities, locations) in local building matters by allocation (or non-allocation) of transportation funding.
 
There is a pretty good summary at: 
"See: http://reason.org/commentaries/staley_20080826.shtml for details... "
 
If that doesn't fill in the blanks well enough, the bill info is at:
 http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/sen/sb_0351-0400/sb_375_cfa_20070425_115133_sen_comm.html
 

12 posted on 09/06/2008 7:20:18 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: sionnsar

Hopefully #12 on this thread will be useful.


13 posted on 09/06/2008 7:24:40 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: nmh

Hopefully #12 on this thread will be useful.


14 posted on 09/06/2008 7:25:18 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Thank you!


15 posted on 09/06/2008 7:32:43 PM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|ObamasUnity=EinVolk,EinReich,EinFuhrer)
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To: BobbyT

Thanks. Sorry you had trouble.

Maybe you’re right. No doubt I’m out of practice, and I strongly suspect that I have not ever done a ‘perfect’ one yet.

However... Did you perhaps try to read the text before the image was fully loaded? That could make a difference.


16 posted on 09/06/2008 7:34:31 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank you Sir!


17 posted on 09/06/2008 7:36:48 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: SierraWasp

RE: “...will destroy what little is left of individual private property rights in CA!!!”

Thank you, SW. If I had seen your post before the ones asking ‘what’s it all about’, I could have just pinged them to yours.

...Excellent, as always! Thanks!


18 posted on 09/06/2008 7:42:06 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Amerigomag

RE: “Good luck to you sir.”

Thank you! Much better to be lucky than important. I claim neither.


19 posted on 09/06/2008 7:47:07 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank you Sir!


20 posted on 09/06/2008 7:47:43 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes
Much better to be lucky than important

Convincing an Austrian tank driver to do anything based on conservative principles would, indeed, be shear luck.

Profit, fame or adoration appear the only avenues to motivate this Eurowienie.

21 posted on 09/06/2008 9:41:48 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Seadog Bytes

bump


22 posted on 09/07/2008 5:42:37 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: Seadog Bytes
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160

I called. The automated menu was a bit different ("Press 1 for English," etc). I weighed in on those pieces of legislation they have on their automated menu (I had to call 3 times to do it):
• AB 2567 - Harvey Milk Day (NO!)
• AB 2747 - End of Life Care (NO!)
• SB 60 - Drivers Licenses for Illegal Aliens (NO!).

For SB 375, you have to talk to a representative during "normal business hours" -- 9AM to 5PM, M-F.

I'll be calling tomorrow, urging the Governor to veto SB 375.

If ya remind me, I'll ping it to the McClintock ping list tomorrow and see if we can get some phone calls going. I know he was very opposed to this crazy legislation, writing about it back in June.

Preferred Growth Scenario [Sen. Tom McClintock California Senate speech on urban planning bill]

23 posted on 09/07/2008 11:58:20 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Seadog Bytes; steelyourfaith; CAluvdubya; liege; sergeantdave; george76; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...
MEGA PING -- Global Warming and Legislative Nonsense - Action alert.

Please call Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and urge him to VETO SB 375

The California legislature has passed SB 375, the nation's first attempt to tie land-use planning and transporation investments to greenhouse gas emissions in the name of fighting global warming. It is currently awaiting Schwarzenegger's signature.

The media is expecting Schwarzenegger to sign this monstrosity. If you can find the time to make a phone call Today, please do.

Phone: (916) 445-2841
(Press 1 for English, Press 2 to comment on legislation, Press 0 to talk to representative)
Just tell them you "oppose SB 375" or ask that he veto it.

The legislation: Transportation planning: travel demand models: sustainable communities strategy: environmental review.

Articles on SB 375 at Free Republic

Tom McClintock on SB 375

JERRY BROWN'S WAR ON CALIFORNIA SUBURBS


24 posted on 09/08/2008 9:12:58 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: caseinpoint

He would be willing to live in a refrigerator box sized human storage unit five stories up always on the lookout for thugs who ride down the tracks to look for places they can rob people then hop back on the train to leave the scene of the crime?


25 posted on 09/08/2008 9:30:44 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


26 posted on 09/08/2008 9:32:35 AM PDT by E.G.C. (To read a freeper's FR postings, click on his or her screen name and then "In Forum".)
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To: calcowgirl

BTT!


27 posted on 09/08/2008 9:47:59 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Seadog Bytes

His office has stated ‘he’s not signing anything until the budget is passed’. Then he’ll sign it I’m sure. He’s been putting land use planners in all the appointed positions he can, since taking office, so it’s pretty clear how he feels about socialist block housing for the citizens of California.


28 posted on 09/08/2008 9:48:34 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: calcowgirl; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH


Action ping
29 posted on 09/08/2008 10:04:17 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel
Action ping

Thanks for pingin' it, xcamel.

Any phonecalls from folks who can help us Californians fend off this monstrosity are much appreciated.

If it passes here, other states will be next. :-(

30 posted on 09/08/2008 10:13:56 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hedgetrimmer; ElkGroveDan
Any idea what the "separate bill" is that the WaPo mentions?
The state's legislature recently green-lighted the measure, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R), who aims to make California a trendsetter in fighting global warming, is expected to sign it into law once the state balances its long-overdue budget.

If he does, the state's Air Resources Board will set emission-reduction targets for 17 major metropolitan planning organizations responsible for housing and transportation projects. A separate bill, also expected to be signed by the governor, would designate financial resources to these organizations.


31 posted on 09/08/2008 10:16:25 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Seadog Bytes

You broke the telephone! All I get is a busy signal >:=)


32 posted on 09/08/2008 10:23:48 AM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: Seadog Bytes; TenthAmendmentChampion; calcowgirl; Horusra; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

33 posted on 09/08/2008 10:36:04 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: calcowgirl

Good luck.
Got any hot stock tips for California moving van companies?


34 posted on 09/08/2008 10:43:19 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: calcowgirl
I just called and it rang about 25 times with NO ANSWER!!!

This is why you must hold them all to account, regardless of political party, before each election!!!

They all just flat ignore ya once they git elected!!! It's yer traditional "done deal," don'tcha know???

The same is true of the wilting Juan McGore/Sarah PALIN team of supposed "reformers!"

35 posted on 09/08/2008 11:08:35 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: hedgetrimmer

Obviously no, but he’d be willing to live in a condo located near enough to train tracks to hear and see the trains. He always admired the old stationmaster homes in the train depots or crossings in Europe.


36 posted on 09/08/2008 11:29:53 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: calcowgirl

No I don’t.

Maybe we need to call the governor again to find out.


37 posted on 09/08/2008 12:21:54 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: calcowgirl

Check your Freepmail...


38 posted on 09/08/2008 12:42:23 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: Seadog Bytes

CONTACT THE GOVERNOR

Governor’s Office:
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-558-3160 ( new number )

District Offices:
Fresno Office
2550 Mariposa Mall #3013
Fresno, CA 93721
Phone: 559-445-5295
Fax: 559-445-5328

Los Angeles Office
300 South Spring Street
Suite 16701
Los Angeles, CA 90013
Phone: 213-897-0322
Fax: 213-897-0319

Riverside Office
3737 Main Street #201
Riverside, CA 92501
Phone: 951-680-6860
Fax: 951-680-6863

San Diego Office
1350 Front Street
Suite 6054
San Diego, CA 92101
Phone: 619-525-4641
Fax: 619-525-4640

San Francisco Office
455 Golden Gate Avenue
Suite 14000
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: 415-703-2218
Fax: 415-703-2803

Washington D.C. Office (what in the world??)
134 Hall of the States
444 North Capitol Street NW
Washington D.C. 20001
Phone: 202-624-5270
Fax: 202-624-5280


39 posted on 09/08/2008 12:50:12 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: calcowgirl

Bump!!

View post #24


40 posted on 09/08/2008 1:00:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: SierraWasp; Czar; tubebender

czar got through — via fax machine.

Send ‘em one of those stingers, SW! ;-)


41 posted on 09/08/2008 1:28:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Bump!

Thanks for all the phone numbers!


42 posted on 09/08/2008 1:30:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Damn, how many offices does a Gub (or a state) need anyway?

Cut Cut Cut!!!


43 posted on 09/08/2008 1:51:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Mencken would puke at the output of most of today’s media “muckrakers”.)
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To: calcowgirl
"Send ‘em one of those stingers, SW! ;-)"

You know I will!!! I alway stang 'em three at a time!!!

44 posted on 09/08/2008 2:17:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: Seadog Bytes

If he does sign it, just remember there’s plenty of room over here in Nevada...


45 posted on 09/08/2008 4:00:51 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: calcowgirl
I still cain't git no satisfaction on that there telephone number, girl... I'll hafta try agin tamarrah!!!

He musta shifted alla his staff infection over to the recall by the prison guards!!!

Nobody's home to answer his phone!!!

46 posted on 09/08/2008 4:17:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: SierraWasp

When I called this morning, it rang three times and then went to a recording saying my call would be answered in the order received (or something like that). After no more than 3 minutes, I got a human and gave my input.

Maybe they have your phone number coded or sumthin’. ;-)


47 posted on 09/08/2008 4:32:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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