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Campaign 2008: The Catholic Church in the Crosshairs (in a positive way)
CatholicExchange.com ^ | september 5, 2008 | David J. Hartline

Posted on 09/05/2008 10:16:28 PM PDT by Salvation

Campaign 2008: The Catholic Church in the Crosshairs

September 5th, 2008 by David J. Hartline

This fall’s Presidential Campaign will more than likely feature a new wrinkle. The Catholic Church will be in the crosshairs. Once again there will be a professed Catholic who supports abortion on a major party’s ticket — this time on the number two slot. You might ask why the Church would be in the crosshairs since a “pro-choice” Catholic on the ticket is nothing new. True, it happened in 2004 and 1984. However, that was before some bishops began to take a much tougher line on those Catholics in political life who support abortion and still think they are in good standing with the Church. The Internet and the YouTube age have also changed the dynamics of the election cycle.The landscape of the 2008 presidential cycle was drastically changed last week when Senator John McCain chose Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Though not Catholic, Palin and her family seem to exemplify the Social Gospel in not only respecting life, but also living simply living off the land. Their rustic lifestyle did not change once Palin become governor. However, it was Palin’s choice for life which earned the family the deepest respect from the pro-life community. Governor Palin and her husband Todd knew in the first trimester of her last pregnancy that their youngest son, born this past April, had Down Syndrome. Yet, despite the fact that about 80% of first trimester Down Syndrome children are aborted, the Palin’s lovingly welcomed him into the world.

Because of this courageous decision, Palin will be the most pro-life vice-presidential candidate the country has ever seen. The pro-life community and Catholics like Father Frank Pavone, President of Priests for Life, and Father Raymond DeSouza, the well known Canadian priest and writer, were ecstatic about the character of the candidate and the symbolism it represented.

Because of the Palin’s courageous actions in the face of the challenge of giving birth to a child known in advance to have special needs, the family faced a vicious swirl of rumors on the Internet: who was the “real mother” of the baby; did the unborn child receive proper pre-natal care; were Governor Palin and her husband trying to protect their teenage daughter from being revealed as an unwed mother? It would have been bad enough if the usual array of leftist crack pots had participated in this sort of tin-foil madness. However, when established names like Alan Colmes and Andrew Sullivan joined the fray, it was more than a little revealing of the far left’s true agenda: humiliate, belittle and demean those who believe in traditional religious values. The revelation that the oldest daughter was actually pregnant should have embarrassed them into silence, but instead they descended into more madness: had the Palins strong-armed their daughter into keeping her baby; had they failed to provide her with adequate sex education? These are the same people who have tagged the Church as the mortal enemy of human progress.

I recall a talk by Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism and editor-at-large of the National Review, in which he said there are many things that unite conservatives, one being respect for traditional religions. It is apparent that too many in the mainstream media have no such respect. Yet, Catholicism has had the unique quality of growing and thriving even while under attack. One might even say that the Church had her best days when she faced the greatest persecution.

crosshairs.jpgBy the end of the fall a political and theological donnybrook could take place as Governor Palin is hailed while Senator Joe Biden is repeatedly asked why he is unable to receive Communion in some dioceses due to his “pro-choice” stance. Some in the mainstream media, but especially those in the burgeoning left-wing political blogosphere will proclaim that the Catholic Church is “too powerful” and “out of touch” with life in 2008. There are sure to be outrageous statements made by the political left. However, they will not be facing Catholics of the 1960s and 1970s, who longed to be accepted into the mainstream. Instead, they will face Catholics who are increasingly proud of the Church’s 2,000-year-old teachings and traditions — and outspoken in their defense. Because of this new trend, more and more of the faithful, especially the young, are embracing Catholic culture over the latest whims of the secular culture. Still, there are prices to be paid for this return to Church orthodoxy.

In a sense one could say it has already begun. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver, the host city of the Democratic Party’s Convention, was not invited to their convention, something of a political first. His strong statements for life did not sit comfortably with the convention’s organizers. Some on the Catholic left will attempt the tired argument that the abortion issue is part of the “seamless garment” of many important social issues, all carrying the same weight. However, recent statements from Pope Benedict and a number of bishops have reminded the faithful that the sanctity of life is central to our faith and they are engaging all men and women of goodwill. Who will win the argument over the humanity of the unborn when ultrasounds and other modern technology have made the occupants of wombs so visible? The abortion issue is a loser for Catholic politicians who support it.

Though Senator Biden says he doesn’t support partial birth abortion, he has supported abortion in the first two trimesters and has been given kudos by Planned Parenthood for his votes against parental notification for minors to have an abortion. Any abortion controversy on the Obama-Biden ticket will only help amplify controversial statements made by Senator Barack Obama. He was the lone voice on the Illinois State Senate Floor (when he was a State Senator in Illinois) who publicly spoke out against a bill that would allow children born from botched abortions to receive medical attention. In addition, Senator Obama has also stated that he wouldn’t want his two girls “punished” with a child, should one of them have an unplanned pregnancy. You can expect that if any Catholic religious or lay person of note should bring this up, we will be in for a verbal barrage from the mainstream media and political blogosphere claiming that the Catholic Church is “meddling in politics.”

This resentment and worse is already being voiced in California where those who believe in traditional values — like the Knights of Columbus — have come under attack and faced economic boycotts following their donations to those trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman in California. The Knights gave one million dollars and were immediately greeted with statements like this one from those advocating gay marriage: “Right-wing organizations … will stop at nothing to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry.” Equality California Executive Director Geoffrey Kors went on to say, “They want to target same-sex couples to be treated differently under the California Constitution, a document that was created to ensure our equality. We need your help to stop them.” A few short years ago, who would have thought that a religious group trying to help voters uphold the sanctity of marriage would be targeted for their beliefs, accused of bigotry and opposing human rights?

Surveys have shown that those in the mainstream media are five times more likely to be agnostics or atheists as compared to the general population. There has been such a favorable mainstream media build up for Senator Obama that should defeat seem a possibility by, let’s say, late October, there could be a meltdown in the media. And should they deem the Catholic Church responsible, you will hear from the political talking heads that the Church has exhibited “too much influence.” ”Too much influence” will simply mean that some of its members actually were bold enough to state what the Church believes in the public square. Some in the mainstream media have the same philosophy about religion that I do about eating Brussels sprouts. I don’t mind if someone enjoys them as long as I don’t have to hear, smell, see, or touch them.

A recent poll by the Zogby Polling Organization showed that young Catholics (age 30 and younger) are the most pro-life demographic of any Catholic age group while conventional wisdom in the media has it that every young person is an Obama supporter. This is a small part of the larger story of the laity embracing more orthodoxy in the Church — a story I tell in my book, The Tide is Turning Toward Catholicism – and it wouldn’t be the first time the media was wrong about the mood of the country.

When Senator Obama toured Europe in the summer, it was hailed as a presidential warm-up tour. In late July, I wrote that it would be a turning point in the campaign, for in the Heartland the “Victory Tour” would be viewed as anything but triumphant. In places like Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania — where Senator Obama needs to do well after a very shaky performance in the Democratic primaries — live large Catholic populations who are far more conservative than their co-religionists in the Northeast and West. No matter how Senator Obama’s camp tries to spin the fact that Senator Biden was from a blue-collar background, much like the folks from these three keys states, the fact that he is pro-choice is not going to cut it with many Catholics — especially the young.

Add to the mix the drama surrounding Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s assertion that the Church doesn’t know when life begins — and neither did she. (Even the 17-year-old daughter of Sarah Palin has demonstrated she knows when life begins.) Never before had the nation’s Catholic bishops responded so quickly to a politician who seemed to be coming up with her own theology. It highlighted the wisdom of Jesus giving us the teaching authority of the Church: the Magesterium led by every pope since Peter (Matthew 16:16-20, Matthew 28:18-20). We have all heard of churches that can’t discipline some rebellious members for distorting their teachings. What good are teachings if they can’t be defended? You can’t run a country, business, sports team, or theater group without a leader. The same goes for a church. Speaker Pelosi’s rebuke by the Church’s leadership will long be remembered by the increasing band of militant secularists who wish to remove faith entirely from the political discussion.

The concept of Catholics adhering to their faith will not sit well with some who may take it out on the Church. In the past this has always made the Church stronger and there is no reason to believe that won’t be the case this time. The Church has been in the crosshairs on many occasions and she always grew stronger because of it. The pro-life message has always been a benchmark for Catholicism. With this in mind, it would appear that on the evening of November 4, 2008, whether they like it or not, many will come to terms with this concept.

 

David J. Hartline was a Catholic school teacher, coach, principal and diocesan administrator. He is the founder of the CatholicReport.org website and author of The Tide is Turning Toward Catholicism.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; catholic; catholiclist; catholicvote; moralabsolutes; prolife
I thought about posting this in the Religion Forum, but it seemed to have more election ideas in it, so here it is.
1 posted on 09/05/2008 10:16:29 PM PDT by Salvation
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**Because of this courageous decision, Palin will be the most pro-life vice-presidential candidate the country has ever seen. The pro-life community and Catholics like Father Frank Pavone, President of Priests for Life, and Father Raymond DeSouza, the well known Canadian priest and writer, were ecstatic about the character of the candidate and the symbolism it represented.**

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2 posted on 09/05/2008 10:17:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

**The pro-life message has always been a benchmark for Catholicism. With this in mind, it would appear that on the evening of November 4, 2008, whether they like it or not, many will come to terms with this concept.**

BTTT for McCain and Palin!


3 posted on 09/05/2008 10:19:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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4 posted on 09/05/2008 10:21:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Amen! When Plugs Biden was selected as VP for the Obami ticket, I told my wife, "They don't know what they just did..."

Yes there are many liberal Catholics and Bishops and Priests, but the Orthodox Bishops, Priests and Catholics have the fire in the belly.

Watch out heretics! Were going to burn you alive with the Truth!

5 posted on 09/05/2008 10:24:27 PM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, I know you can find anything. I’d love a page I could print out with the pro-death votes that Obama and Biden have made. If you or anyone know where one is would you ping me?

If we need to compile one, let me know and I’ll help, I’m just hoping someone else has already done it.


6 posted on 09/05/2008 10:24:56 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki
Go to the Senate site and I know you can find the votes you want.

Or you might try a google/yahoo search. I don't use google because of their pronounced bias.

U. S. Senate

7 posted on 09/05/2008 10:28:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Many of the sheeple are not aware of how many Catholic prelates and lay persons have spoken out against Obama/Biden and Pelosi and their views on abortion.

San Francisco Archbishop addresses recent comments made by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
The Speaker's Archbishop Speaks
Pelosi, By [Francis Cardinal George

House Speaker Pelosi’s 1500-Year-Old Ecclesial Sound Bite: Bishop Robert Vasa
Catholic Joe's Abortion Woe
Obama ad slams McCain on abortion rights
Going Off the Deep End in Denver: Democrats Walk the Abortion Plank
Pelosi: "Many Catholics do not ascribe to that view”
Calling All Pro-life Dems
Catholic leaders accused of failing to enforce church law
Politics trump morals for Obama, Biden
Don't Blame the Bishops (Pelosi slap down)
Joe Biden [on Abortion]

THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND PELOSI
Two more bishops censure Nancy Pelosi
Biden On his pro-abortion stance: "My Views are Totally Consistent with Catholic Social Doctrine..."
Is This Dr. King's Dream for Black America? [Obama on black issues]
Two More Bishops Correct Speaker Pelosi on Life
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Niece to Obama: My Uncle Would Oppose Abortion
Michelle Obama Confronted by Post-Abortion Message, Pictures of Unborn Children
McCain Himself Accuses Obama of Courting Infanticide
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND PELOSI
Abp. Chaput continues to steal spotlight from DNC

[Dems] Losing faith voters
CASEY BLOWS IT BIG TIME; SETTLES FOR CLICHÉS ON ABORTION
Biden: "My views are totally consistent with Catholic social doctrine..." (Ignorance Alert!)
Protecting the Unborn: A Step-By-Step Approach
Pope Pelosi At the Gate
Cal Thomas: [Democrats]Losing Faith Voters
Nothing from Niederauer ( Pelosi's archbishop remains silent! )
She (Pelosi) Misrepresented Teaching of (Catholic) Church (Abortion)
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools ( Ouch! )
Pelosi's Theologizing on Abortion is a Repeat of Biden's Own Quotes on Meet the Press

[OPEN] Joe Biden and the Bishops
[OPEN] Catholic Bishops and Democratic Theologians
[OPEN]Pelosi defends comments on beginning of life as more bishops warn against them
Biden follows Pelosi in mangling Catholic doctrine on abortion
Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton Hit John McCain on Abortion at Emily’s List Lunch
Pelosi Spokeswoman About-face: Catholic Church Clear on Life Teaching, But Catholics Need Not Listen
Obama in His Own Words: There Is No Doubt He Supported Infanticide
Pope Pelosi at the Gate - Life with the Speaker.
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
House GOP demands Pelosi apology for abortion comments

Nancy Pelosi Patristic Scholar (great graphic!)
Voters Should be Troubled by Obama's Abortion Stance
Day 4 of Pelosi-Gate: Reactions
Pro-Life Democrats Need Not Apply
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden (says Mr. Biden should avoid taking Communion)
Pope Pelosi At the Gate
Pelosi’s feud with archbishop escalates
Archbishop: Democrats don't know Christianity
Pope Pelosi At the Gate

[OPEN]Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
The Arrogance of Nancy Pelosi ( Rush Limbaugh )
Pelosi stands by abortion comments
Pelosi's spokesman responds with more gobbledygook, quotes Augustine again
The issue that won't go away [Abortion and Politicians]
American prelates rebuke 'pro-choice' Catholics
WHAT ALL CATHOLICS SHOULD DO CONCERNING NANCY PELOSI
[OPEN] Pelosi a 'religious heretic,' says former GOP Rep.
Cardinal Egan Corrects Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Poll: Majority of Americans Disagree With Barack Obama on When Life Begins

The Democratic Left Promotes Anti-Catholic Hatred
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
EDITORIAL: Abortion, Forced Eviction from our First Home -- the Womb
Breaking: Pelosi's home archdiocese republishes USCCB statement
Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
The Democrats and the Abortion Wars - Are Obama and Pelosi dodging the life-and-death question?
Bishops Respond to House Speaker Pelosi's Misrepresentation of Church Teaching Against Abortion
The Crucial Catholic Vote: Does It Exist?
Bishops: Democratic VP Nominee Should Refrain from Communion
Cardinal Egan Blasts Pelosi (in brilliantly scathing response) [Open]
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden

Denver Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden
Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
Washington Archbishop rips Pelosi
Washington archbishop rips Pelosi on abortion
Washington archbishop rips Pelosi on abortion
OPEN]On the Separation of Sense and State: (Chaput Teaching on Pelosi)
Archbishop Wuerl on the Church’s Constant Teaching on Abortion
Washington archbishop rips Pelosi on abortion
Bishops Correct Speaker Nancy Pelosi: 'On the Separation of Sense and State'
Pelosi lies about Catholicism and abortion

Catholic Bishop: Pro-Abortion VP Candidate Joe Biden Should Skip Communion
When Does Human Life Begin? Obama's Pro-Abortion Answer Hill Downfall
Bishops Correct Speaker Nancy Pelosi: On the Separation of Sense and State
Denver archbishop slams Pelosi on Church teachings and abortion
Pelosi, Abortion & St. Augustine - UPDATED
Catholic leaders react to Biden pick; Bishops say he should refrain from Communion
Obama Supporter On FNC: Jesus Would Be O.K. With Abortion
How should Catholics vote? [editorial from the LA Times]
"Catholic" Speaker Pelosi Denies that Catholicism Condemns Abortion
Catholics Against Joe Biden (Link to site) [Open]

Choice of Biden Re-Opens Catholic Wound; Own Bishop Outspoken on Obligation to Protect Life
"Prudent And Nuanced View”( LA Times wants Archbishop Burke to shut up about abortion)
“Help me out here, Madam Speaker” ( “I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins” )
Biden's Catholic faith offers risks, rewards
Nancy Pelosi on when life begins (Smarter than Obama?
Obama, Biden, Foreign Policy and the Catholic Vote
The "Abortion Joe" Biden will get his ticket a record low Catholic vote
Obama's Falsehood: The Truth About His Abortion Record
EDITORIAL:Obama Chooses Biden and the Battle for Life is Engaged
Joe Biden Makes It Easier for Catholics to Oppose Pro-Abortion Barack Obama

Obamacide
McCain attacks Obama on pro-abortion stance
Barack Obama's Sole Article in Harvard Law Review Promotes Abortion
Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide
Obama's Born-Alive Problem
William A. Donohue: Catholic Left Hangs Itself (5/22/08) [Abortion]
"Until they have reformed their lives" ( No Holy Communion for pro-abortion Catholics!)
African American Pro-Life Leader Tells Barack Obama: No We Can't OK Abortion
OBAMA AND INFANTICIDE (Reinhard)
They'd be angry at Obama if he was caught saying the N-word. Supporting Infanticide—Not so much.

In 2002, Barack Obama Supported Infanticide and I've Got the Transcript of His Words
Explosive Audio Found - Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act - Audio
Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor
Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA
Audio Found Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Abortion foes using racism to make point at DNC [Randall Terry / Operation Rescue]
Why Obama couldn't answer Warren's baby question
Smoking gun? Papers expose Obama's 'infanticide' vote
EXTRA: Archbishop Burke on Catholics who Support Abortion
Senator Barack Obama Wants You to Pay for Abortions

US Bishops Look at Election
John McCain Will Not Pick Pro-Abortion Running Mate, Rules Out Tom Ridge
Vote for Real Hope and Change [Archbishop Chaput]
Catholics who support abortion should not receive Communion, says Archbishop Burke (again :-)
CNN Again Omits Part of the Story Concerning Obama’s Abortion Votes
Obama Flunks Rick Warren's Abortion Question
Obama and the Black American Family Don’t Jibe [Abortion]
Obama Caught Red-Handed in Abortion Lie
Archbishop Naumann hopes Obama realizes Sebelius is a bad Catholic advisor
Obama Facing Attacks From All Sides Over Abortion Record

OBAMA'S EXTREMISM - HIS ABORTION RECORD IS NO LIE
Barack Obama - Abortion Extremist
Barack Obama lied about babies ‘Born Alive’ vote then smeared Corsi
Babies' Rights and the Definition of Marriage [re: Forum responses by Obama vs. McCain]
Opinion: Doug Kmiec on McCain v. Obama at Saddleback
Obama Cover-up on Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Continues to Unravel...
Life Lies: Barack Obama and Born-Alive
Operation Rescue founder to distribute new flyer: "Is it Immoral to Vote for Obama for President?"
Obama Calls Pro-Lifers Liars
Obama Jun 15: “fathers…at conception” August 16 “answering that question is above my pay grade”

Niece of Martin Luther King Jr. to Lead Prayer Vigil Outside Largest U.S. Abortion Centre
Campaign Admits Obama Lied About Abortion Vote, Media Asleep
Obama “pay grade” comment purposely ignores SCIENTIFIC FACT that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION
Barack Obama Repeats False Claim Abortions Haven't Declined Under Bush
Obama and Abortion
Obama Says Right to Life Coalition Is Lying About His Record
Barack Obama Says Pro-Life Group Lying About His Pro-Infanticide Votes
Obama's infanticide problem>
Obama and McCain Woo Catholics
Obama's Christian Creds Vs. Abortion and Infanticide

Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide
Mommy Won't Help Dems on Abortion
Abortion Leader Confirms that Democratic Platform is More Pro-Abortion than Ever
Obama More Than An Abortion Radical
Obama’s Abortion Lies (Obama cover-up on born-alive survivors bill)
Life with Obama: Abortion champion
Knighting the Catholic Vote (K of C urging Catholics to vote pro-life)
Linda Chavez: Obama’s Catholic problem
Catholic Voters and 2008
Barack Obama Supports the Murder of Newborn Infants

Obama Lied About Abortion Record
What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion
[OPEN] Supreme K of C Calls for Real "Change" on Abortion and Catholic Revolt against Obama Nation
Obama's Catholic Problem ( Linda Chavez )
Obama’s View on Abortion May Divide Catholics ( "May Divide?" )
Obama loses 26 points among Catholics
Barack Obama's Wife Michelle to Join Hillary Clinton at Pro-Abortion Dinner
OPINION: Senator Obama and the Wall of the Womb
Barack Obama's Pledge to Overturn Every Pro-Life Abortion Law One Year Old
Obama Worse than Clintons on Abortion Says National Right to Life Leader Interview-SCOTUS Critical

Roman Catholics for Obama '08
OBAMA TO CATHOLICS: NO VOUCHERS
How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?
Obama’s director of Catholic Outreach ‘dodges’ opportunity to reach Catholics
Barack Obama Slams John McCain For Opposing Abortion, Activist Judges
Catholics and Obama
COMMENTARY: Quandry for Catholics At Election Time
The Latest Refinement (Obama on Abortion)
CNN Runs Biased News Story Covering Up Barack Obama’s Pro-Abortion Record
Jill Stanek: Obama's biggest lie about supporting infanticide

The Battle for Catholic Voters
New Report Indicates Voters Most Interested in Barack Obama’s Position on Abortion
Deal Hudson: Obama and Infanticide?
Ad asks Obama: ‘If fatherhood begins at conception, when does life begin?’
Embryonic stem-cell research immoral, unnecessary, bishops say
Catholics should not vote for Obama
Catholic Caucus: It is a sin to vote/support Obama/DNC [abortion]
More Catholics leaning towards Democrats, poll reports (really not Catholics)
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Obama's Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion....

NARAL Catholics Line Up for Obama
Editorial: Disagreeing with Doug Kmiec One More Time
State-Funded Embryo Research "Makes Taxpayers Complicit in Killing", say Bishops
McCain Meets Privately with Fr. Pavone - Says Constitutional Right to Life Applies to Unborn
Faithful Citizenship: “Catholic Vote” is very sought after
Has Obama dissolved his Catholic advisory council?
Commentary: Faithful Citizenship and the Formed Conscience
Catholic League: Where's Obama's 'Catholic Advisory Council'? [Not to be found!]
Right-wing Christians beginning to lean left (Misleading headline)
Catholics Debate Obama Vote

US Bishops Urge Voters to Give Priority to Life [Ecumenical]
Corralling the Catholic vote: Political necessity or pipe dream?
DOUG KMIEC: Catholic Reasons for Hope in the General Election
EDITORIAL: Why This Catholic Dreads the Campaign
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Thoughts On ‘Roman Catholics For Obama’
How Obama's Catholics Will Dodge the Infanticide Question
Catholic Pro-Life Leader Feuds With Barack Obama's "Catholic" Backers
McCain and the Pope: McCain cannot win in November without the Catholic vote (Reagan re-visited?)
Catholics Cannot Vote for Pols Who Support Abortion, Except for Morally Grave Reasons: KY Bishops

8 posted on 09/05/2008 10:44:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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When is Pelosi’s bishop going to speak out on her support for abortion and her mangling of Church teaching? Or has he been bought off?


9 posted on 09/06/2008 1:34:52 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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Pelosi’s Bishop has said she needs to meet with him so that he can clarify to her the teaching of the Church, because she is wrong. I thought that was pretty much akin to being called to the principal’s office. If she refuses to meet with him, I am sure we will hear about it.


10 posted on 09/06/2008 3:21:09 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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I should add that the Archbishop’s statement about this is the first link provided at the top of Salvation’s long list of links concerning this subject. You should go read it, as it is a serious statement and Pelosi should be worried.


11 posted on 09/06/2008 3:25:23 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Salvation

Good article.

The author is wrong about Biden, though; he was never “working class.” I believe at the time of Biden’s birth, his father was an oil company executive (Amoco, I think), but lost his job and went through several others, all of them firmly middle class. At one point, he lost much of his money in some kind of venture and ended up managing a chain of used car dealerships. But this is hardly “working class,” and he was certainly never working class either in his type of employment or his average income. In fact, Biden was even sent to an expensive private school by his parents.


12 posted on 09/06/2008 3:37:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: Salvation

How many pregnant teenagers have decided that maybe they should rethink aborting their baby because they saw the example of Bristol and Sarah Palin?

How many mothers faced with giving birth to a Down’s baby have started to rethink aborting thier baby because of Sarah and Todd Palin’s example?
The Palin family has already helped America.


13 posted on 09/06/2008 4:24:02 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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14 posted on 09/06/2008 9:22:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Salvation

Good article, Salvation. Thanks!


15 posted on 09/06/2008 9:31:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: livius

Those are interesting facts about Biden. Thank you.


16 posted on 09/06/2008 11:59:16 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jmaroneps37

they have probably saved countless babies from abortion in even this short week. God bless them both.


17 posted on 09/06/2008 12:00:18 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**I recall a talk by Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism and editor-at-large of the National Review, in which he said there are many things that unite conservatives, one being respect for traditional religions. It is apparent that too many in the mainstream media have no such respect. **

I also liked his comment on the media! Bingo!


18 posted on 09/06/2008 12:01:38 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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