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Can Palin Pull Off An Obama? (Charles Krauthammer On John McCain's Daring Gamble Alert)
National Review ^ | 9/05/2008 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 09/04/2008 10:54:51 PM PDT by goldstategop

“There are two questions we will never have to ask ourselves, ‘Who is this man?’ and ‘Can we trust this man with the presidency?’ ” — Fred Thompson on John McCain, September 2

This was the most effective line of the entire Republican convention: a ringing affirmation of John McCain’s authenticity and a not-so-subtle indictment of Barack Obama’s insubstantiality. What’s left of this line of argument, however, after John McCain picks Sarah Palin for vice president?

Palin is an admirable and formidable woman. She has energized the Republican base and single-handedly unified the Republican convention behind McCain. She performed spectacularly in her acceptance speech. Nonetheless, the choice of Palin remains deeply problematic.

It’s clear that McCain picked her because he had decided that he needed a game-changer. But why? He’d closed the gap in the polls with Obama. True, that had more to do with Obama sagging than McCain gaining. But what’s the difference? You win either way.

Obama was sagging because of missteps that reflected the fundamental weakness of his candidacy. Which suggested McCain’s strategy: Make this a referendum on Obama, surely the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared presidential nominee in living memory.

Palin fatally undermines this entire line of attack. This is through no fault of her own. It is simply a function of her rookie status. The vice president’s only constitutional duty of any significance is to become president at a moment’s notice. Palin is not ready. Nor is Obama. But with Palin, the case against Obama evaporates.

So why did McCain do it? He figured it’s a Democratic year. The Republican brand is deeply tarnished. The opposition is running on “change” in a change election. So McCain gambled that he could steal the change issue for himself — a crazy brave, characteristically reckless, inconceivably difficult maneuver — by picking an authentically independent, tough-minded reformer. With Palin, he doubles down on change.

The problem is the inherent oddity of the incumbent party running on change. Here were Republicans — the party that controlled the White House for eight years and both houses of Congress for five — wildly cheering the promise to take on Washington. I don’t mean to be impolite, but who’s controlled Washington this decade?

Moreover, McCain was giving up his home turf of readiness to challenge Obama on his home turf of change. Can that possibly be pulled off? The calculation was to choose demographics over thematics. Palin’s selection negates the theme of readiness. But she does bring important constituencies. She has the unique potential of energizing the base while at the same time appealing to independents.

This is unusual. Normally the wing-nut candidate alienates the center. Palin promises a twofer because of her potential appeal to the swing-state Reagan Democrats that Hillary Clinton carried in the primaries. Not for reasons of gender — Clinton didn’t carry those because she was a woman — but because more culturally conservative working-class whites might find affinity with Palin’s small-town, middle/frontier American narrative and values.

The gamble is enormous. In a stroke, McCain gratuitously forfeited his most powerful argument against Obama. And this was even before Palin’s inevitable liabilities began to pile up — inevitable because any previously unvetted neophyte has “issues.” The kid. The state trooper investigation. And worst, the paucity of any Palin record or expressed conviction on the major issues of our time.

McCain has one hope. It is suggested by the strength of Palin’s performance Wednesday night. In a year of compounding ironies, the McCain candidacy could be saved, and the Palin choice vindicated, by one thing: Palin does an Obama.

Obama showed that star power can trump the gravest of biographical liabilities. The sheer elegance, intelligence, and power of his public presence have muted the uneasy feeling about his unreadiness. Palin does not reach Obama’s mesmeric level. Her appeal is far more earthy, workmanlike, and direct. Yet she managed to banish a week’s worth of unfriendly media scrutiny and self-inflicted personal liabilities with a single triumphant speech.

Now, Obama had 19 months to make his magic obscure his thinness. Palin has nine weeks. Nevertheless, if she too can neutralize unreadiness with star power, then the demographic advantages she brings McCain — appeal to the base and to Reagan Democrats — coupled with her contribution to the reform theme, might just pay off. The question is: Can she do the magic — unteleprompted extemporaneous magic, from now on — for the next nine weeks?


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Charles Krauthammer ponders the ramifications of the John McCain's daring gamble in the Sarah Palin selection and thinks that despite the drawbacks of Palin's credentials, her real appeal is her star power. "Pulling an Obama" means equalizing the election playing field with raw celebrity appeal. Time will tell if it will work.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 09/04/2008 10:54:51 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
If Governor Palin is a women of substance, then the gamble will pay off.
2 posted on 09/04/2008 10:59:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Democrats are Intimidated by Strong Women.)
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To: goldstategop

But...but...but...Joe Klein says being a community organizer is hard! It’s harrrrrrrrd!


3 posted on 09/04/2008 10:59:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: goldstategop

Krauthammer is just wrong on this. Palin underscores that Obama is not even as prepared to be president as a Governor in her first term.


4 posted on 09/04/2008 11:05:27 PM PDT by JLS (Do you really want change being two guys from the majority of Congress with a 9% approval rating?)
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To: goldstategop
Two things.

First, Krauthammer seems to think that Obama is running for Vice President. He's not. He is running for President. It is Sarah Palin who is the Vice Presidential candidate. There has never really been a standard set that demands that a Vice Presidential Candidate be on a par with the President. That has seldom if ever been the case. Palin is well within the brackets of the experience, presence, and charisma that might be expected of a candidate for the Vice Presidency.

Second, as Krauthammer rightly notes: Normally the wing-nut candidate alienates the center.

In this election, the wing-nut candidate is Barack Obama.

McCains strategy is to drive that fact more and more into the public awareness. He is succeeding, largely because it is an obvious truth.

5 posted on 09/04/2008 11:06:59 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: goldstategop

Krauthammer is not wrong, he seldom is, but he overstates this a bit. The fact is Obama is not qualified, and Palin is more qualified than Obama. Even if Palin undermines the republican ticket’s qualifications a bit, you still have McCain, and no one can deny McCain is qualified and many times more so than Obama. So you still have a more qualified republican ticket, especially in the lead position.


6 posted on 09/04/2008 11:07:29 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

Yes, a bit like Frum over on National Review, his initial take was off and he’s pressing now to defend it despite the obvious.


7 posted on 09/04/2008 11:11:39 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: goldstategop
Many past Presidents had about as much experience as Palin. Palin does have some baggage, but lack of sufficient experience is not one of them. And even if it were, she has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined—a fact which lays a fatal trap in which Obama has already inextricably snared himself.
8 posted on 09/04/2008 11:11:55 PM PDT by sourcery (Social Justice. n. 1. Enslavement of those who work for the benefit of those who don't.)
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To: All
I disagree: By selecting Governor Palin, McCain has drawn Obama into a trap. The Obama camp immediately attacked McCain's pick on experience. Well, now Obama has been forced to compare his experience vs Governor Palin. And I believe most Americans will believe the executive experience & real decision making trumps the yes/no/present “decisions” Obama has made in hid previous positions. Anyway you look at it, Governor Palin's experience compares to Obama’s, without saying which one actually has more of the right kind of experience to be the next president.

So Palin's Mayor Exp is close to Obama's state legislature exp(but Palins is exec) Palin's Gov. Exp is close to Obama's Senate exp.(Although shes actually accomplished more on the job, Obama has been running for President 2/4 years. Trouble for Obama is, he is not running against Gov. Palin, and by even making the comparison on Gov. Palin vs Obama, it highlights the fact that McCain blows Obama away on exp.

9 posted on 09/04/2008 11:15:09 PM PDT by aklurker
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To: John Valentine

Obama is barely eligible to be a vice president.


10 posted on 09/04/2008 11:17:16 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (14 years living in Wasilla, Alaska, now its in all the news!)
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To: goldstategop
Palin is not ready.

Charles Krauthammer is just a DU troll operative who wants Obama to win. /s

11 posted on 09/04/2008 11:24:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: goldstategop

One of the more interesting analysis and one of few that makes sense in its critique of the Palin selection. Not because it shows fault in McCain’s ability to think, but rather questions whether the risk was worth it.

Indeed the candidates were running neck and neck, quite incredible given the economy and war. After Obama picked Biden, McCain could have played it equally safe and continued his attack theme which had been slowly paying dividends. So why take the gamble?

I think Kraut makes one key mistake - he argues that Palin negates the best attack on Obama. But in fact she strengthens it. If she is unqualified, then Obama certainly is. McCain hasn’t doubled down on change - he’s doubled down on exposing Obama’s lack of experience. He’s also doubled down on conservatism being more appealing than Obama’s liberalism. And I think both are a good bet.


12 posted on 09/04/2008 11:26:13 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: goldstategop

“Moreover, McCain was giving up his home turf of readiness to challenge Obama on his home turf of change. Can that possibly be pulled off? The calculation was to choose demographics over thematics. Palin’s selection negates the theme of readiness. But she does bring important constituencies. She has the unique potential of energizing the base while at the same time appealing to independents.”

I usually admire the author’s thinking deeply. I think he has missed something fundamental here. Because Palin is manifestly more qualified than Obama, yet still a rookie, what it has done is quadruple highlighted Obama’s lack of serious qualification for the presidency.

We now see Obama running against the VP pick, not the top of the ticket, and desperately trying to prove that being a community organizer is somehow AS qualifying as being a small-town mayor. And it leaves McCain standing by himself in the stratosphere of experience and qualification. Biden suddenly seems completely irrelevant.

The other thing Dr. Krauthammer misses is that Governor Palin is the first serious Republican candidate since Reagan that unambiguously represents all three legs of the conservative coalition at the same time—economic, national defense and social conservatism. (One might argue that Romney did; but I was never completely convinced by his turnaround on social issues. Perhaps Quayle—but is poor performance after nomination leaves him off my “serious candidate” list). Every other serious candidate since 1988 has been missing at least one of the legs of the stool.

We win when we draw Reagan Democrats to the coalition—and they vote on values. We lose when we don’t. So that third leg of the stool is critical and has been missing. Palin brings that third leg of the stool, without, like Huckabee, sacrificing the economic leg of the stool.

Finally, he misses that the “change” mantle MUST be stolen from the rats. And we saw the completion of that strategy in McCain’s speech tonight. Gov. Palin is the only candidate out there that credibly comes as a reformer that will take on corrupt members of her own party. McCain did what he had to do—admitted that the R’s got power and then abused it like Democrats. He ran against his own congress tonight. There are two good reason to do that: (1) The R’s in congress have been behaving badly—their performance from 2000-2006 was disgraceful and they need to be held to account; and (2) A McCain/Palin ticket is the only credible ticket that can say we are going in to clean up the cess-pool in both parties.


13 posted on 09/04/2008 11:29:25 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: goldstategop

I like Krauthammer but he is another beltway lost his way...like Noonan..

and Chuck is a gun grabber to a degree

there are FR threads on this so don’t wake me up kids if you doubt me

use JR’s search or Google


14 posted on 09/04/2008 11:31:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama/Pol Pot 2008)
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To: goldstategop
Obama was sagging because of missteps that reflected the fundamental weakness of his candidacy. Which suggested McCain’s strategy: Make this a referendum on Obama, surely the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared presidential nominee in living memory.

Palin fatally undermines this entire line of attack.


Krauthammer just saw the convention - he must realize by now that in fact, Palin and the Dem reaction to her gives the Republicans an excellent excuse to hammer away at Obama's lack of substance and accomplishment. They can and have relentlessly compared Palin's record with Obama's, and while they're similar in their levels of experience, Obama is running for president. Palin isn't.

In addition, Palin has excited the Republican base as McCain himself never could - the level of enthusiasm in the convention center is probably reflected in the Republican base all over the country. Watching the likes of Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham and Tom Ridge delivering speeches was just stupefyingly boring. These guys would have done nothing to help McCain. There's no substitute for star quality - Obama has it. Now the Republican ticket does as well.

And, as Krauthammer notes, Palin enables McCain to wrestle the "change" image away from Obama. So, in summary, McCain's attacks on Obama's experience are now amplified by his young running mate and the foolish Democratic attacks on her experience. McCain excites the base, many of whom were planning to hold their noses while voting for him, and now the "change" issue is no longer Obama's by default. And last but not least, he has put an exciting young conservative in position to challenge for the presidency in 2012 and 2016.

I had no idea McCain would be this imaginative or gutsy. He may not win, but it won't be because he played it safe. Regardless of the outcome, he will not have to look back in December and wonder if he might have done more. By bringing Palin to national prominence, he's also given the conservative movement a gift for the future of possibly epic proportions. And I'm increasingly starting to think he's going to win this thing.
15 posted on 09/04/2008 11:37:42 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: goldstategop

I generally like CK’s analysis but I’ll respectfully disagree with him on this. I simply don’t think the average voter equates youth on the bottom of the ticket with the same degree of trepidation that they do when it’s at the top.

I also think the media-echo-chamber assumption that McCain is going to wake up dead any day now is something the average voter doesn’t calculate.

I think Joe Sixpack sees McCain (if he likes him) as a wise grandpa and no one is watching the clock expecting Gramps to pass any minute now unless he has a defined illness.


16 posted on 09/04/2008 11:42:40 PM PDT by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: goldstategop

How can so many analysts be so obtuse. Everyone here knows the score, but here, again, are the facts:

1. Obama is running for president, Palin for vice-president. For those of you who slept through civics class, president is the higher office.

2. There are historically two major qualifications for the presidency: having served as vice-president and having served as governor.

3. Neither Obama nor McCain has served as vice-president nor governor.

4. McCain had been criticizing Obama on his lack of foreign-policy experience because McCain has no executive experience. It matters not that Palin has no foreign-policy experience, since McCain hasn’t suddenly disappeared.

5. Obama has less experience than Palin. Obama has only legislative experience, whereas Palin has been both mayor and governor.

6. Palin is not a “star” like Obama. She can point to actual policy accomplishments, most impressively as a reformer.

7. The only reason Palin is seen as a gamble at this point and Obama does not is because Obama has been running for president for two years. He has no other bona fides to qualify him as a national figure. Give Palin a little time, and hard-headed pundits like Krauthammer will get so used to saying Palin’s name that it’ll seem like she’s been around forever.


17 posted on 09/04/2008 11:46:55 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: goldstategop

He doesn’t get it.


18 posted on 09/04/2008 11:51:53 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: KingofZion
He needed to pick her because he wasn't the conservative base's first choice for the party's nominee. He might have wanted to pick a RINO or Lieberman for Veep but it would have done fatal political damage to his bid. By picking Sarah, he made his peace with conservatives and secured their support while freeing himself to go after the center. For McCain its turned out to be a win win proposition. Its not like he needed to establish gravitas because he already had it and could afford to take a risk with a running mate, which he felt was necessary to give him some momentum. As it stands, its already exceeded all the expectations!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 09/04/2008 11:56:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Rarely would i disagree with Mr Krauthammer but this time i will go way out on a limb to defend Sarah Palin..

He mentions she is a neophyte and is untested..Basically so is Obama, having written no legislation while in the U.S. Senate but rather just voting Present and enjoying the ride..Even in the Illinois State Senate he only wrote 31 bills of which 2 were amended so he could not take credit and only 1 was accepted and became law- basically a list of college graduates from a Community College that could be passed out to potential employers..Some legislation !

Mrs. Palin has been tested- as Mayor and as Governor, even defeating a former Governor of Alaska..Surely she was vetted and tested as Governor and considering the reforms she put through in Alaska she probably picked up her share of enemies who would have uncovered any skeletons she may have had..She is also a proven reformer and cost cutter who saved Billions for Alaska..

In addition she is a much better choice than Obama who has tried to cover up his Muslim ties; his ties to Ayers and Dorn-former Weather Underground violent activists; who cannot even produce an American birth certificate; and who has ties to the Chicago Machine; and his pal Tony R.now a convicted felon; and to Saul Alinsky...Maybe these are virtues to a Democrat, but not to a conservative Republican, or an Independent, or a middle of the road voter...

It appears that the missteps, the lies, the smear tactics and innuendos that Obama and his surrogates are trying will not work against McCain & Palin...His candidacy shows the arrogance of nothingness, the emptiness of the Democratic existentialist campaign that we are witnessing- no program, no joy in helping to restore America, no positive image they can hold up..

Just as Al Gore had to avoid mentioning his President’s name- in spite of some good accomplishments- with help from the Republicans, so Obama is carrying a millstone around his neck with one word on it: Hillary...He could not choose her as VP..and now he cannot do without her help...Talk about a losing situation, and getting worse by the day...


20 posted on 09/04/2008 11:57:39 PM PDT by billmor (Friday:Red Shirt Day- silent no more..,McCain and Palin-the right team for '08)
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To: billmor; All

Is anyone watching David Letterman? Turn it on.....I didn’t think I’d live to see an upset like this....he LOVES SARAH!

Robin Williams coming up, can’t wait to see what he says......


21 posted on 09/04/2008 11:59:24 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: billmor

Here is a reference to Obama’s Illinois Senate Record, posted just this evening here on FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2075119/posts


22 posted on 09/04/2008 11:59:38 PM PDT by billmor (Friday:Red Shirt Day- silent no more..,McCain and Palin-the right team for '08)
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To: goldstategop
The gamble is enormous. In a stroke, McCain gratuitously forfeited his most powerful argument against Obama. And this was even before Palin’s inevitable liabilities began to pile up — inevitable because any previously unvetted neophyte has “issues.” The kid. The state trooper investigation. And worst, the paucity of any Palin record or expressed conviction on the major issues of our time.

Nope. No enormous gamble, no forfeit of argument re Obama's lack of experience, Palin's not unvetted, not a neophyte vis a vis Obama, and no paucity of record or expressed conviction on major issues of our time - taxes, energy, corruption, abortion (just not his conviction), accountability and government waste. I haven't heard of any comment from her on terrorism and the Iraq war, but I'll leave neocon Krauthammer and conservative Palin to settle that among themselves.

He may never have heard about any of that. So what? His only experience in a presidential campaign was...During the presidential campaign of 1980, Krauthammer served as a speech writer to Vice President Walter Mondale. (wiki) How'd that work out?

The only risk was that the MSM was in the tank for Obama and would savage Palin. Well, they are and they are; how's that working out?
23 posted on 09/05/2008 12:05:06 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: goldstategop

Someone please refresh my memory. In the last election, when Kerry chose John Edwards for VP, was there talk about the not yet one term senator from North Carolina lacking experience to be VP? Being ‘one heartbeat away from the Presidency?’ etc.?


24 posted on 09/05/2008 12:09:27 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: goldstategop

Exactly right, his line of “I don’t work for a party I work for the country” would have been excoriated by people on FR and all conservatives had he picked a Lieberman, or even a Pawlenty, as his running mate.

We would all be saying, “if that’s the case John why didn’t you run for president in 3rd party, we thought we were nominating the Republican presidential candidate”

But he can say that now because the base has closed ranks behind him with the naming of Palin as his running mate.
And when you think about it, she was really his only choice, no other person he could have picked could have done this, not Romney, not Huckabee, or anyone else.


25 posted on 09/05/2008 12:11:22 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: KingofZion
think Kraut makes one key mistake - he argues that Palin negates the best attack on Obama. But in fact she strengthens it. If she is unqualified, then Obama certainly is. McCain hasn’t doubled down on change - he’s doubled down on exposing Obama’s lack of experience. He’s also doubled down on conservatism being more appealing than Obama’s liberalism. And I think both are a good bet.

Well said. (I wish FR had some sort of rating system, so one could award points to pithy comments.)

26 posted on 09/05/2008 12:11:24 AM PDT by AZLiberty (You can't power the U.S. economy on Democrat snake oil.)
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To: John Valentine
In this election, the wing-nut candidate is Barack Obama. McCains strategy is to drive that fact more and more into the public awareness. He is succeeding, largely because it is an obvious truth.

I like your analysis. It makes a lot more sense to me than Krauthammer's.

As for a VP candidate, would else but Palin could have energized the base and appealed to Reagan Democrats and Independents? I don't think his choice was a gamble. It was a certainty for him.

27 posted on 09/05/2008 12:13:57 AM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: goldstategop
Alas. Sometimes even Homer nods.

In what is surely a rarity Krauthammer embraces what passes within the confines of I-495 for wisdom instead of actually looking at the facts, and most significantly, the context: McCain made a choice better than the best one, he made the only one available to him. Palin was not a gamble. Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Ridge, even Hutchinson, and certainly Lieberman, all -- for various reasons -- were. McCain could not sustain a pure referendum against Obama all the way until November, and he could not make a directional shift exciting enough or convincing enough for the electorate by choosing from a primary adversary or the Republican establishment.

Palin seems an odd choice compared to a hypothetical anyone. But as the first Republican President, pressed on his continuing refusal to sack McClellan replied in answer to Benjamin Wade's insistence that "anyone" could replace McClellan, "You can have anyone. But I must have someone." Sarah Palin is someone.

28 posted on 09/05/2008 12:21:12 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Coming soon: why snow machine racing is more dangerous to the ice caps than global warming.)
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To: FredZarguna

Charles seems to be ambivalent about Palin. Not exactly full throated approval. Like you said, he’s been drinking in beltway bars.


29 posted on 09/05/2008 12:23:19 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

He is an economic free market conservative, I think the whole pro-life/Christian thing bothers him.


30 posted on 09/05/2008 12:25:00 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Luke21
It's fair to be ambivalent. Like BHO, she has made a reputation with most Americans on the basis of one speech at a convention.

What is not fair -- and worse, what is not true -- is that upon further examination she is a Zephyr on the same level as Obama. This comparison is ridiculous, and even most of the 40 million Americans watching casually the other night understood what Krauthammer doesn't seem to grasp: Obama is spectacularly unqualified, even in comparison to a small-town mayor and two year governor.

As for the mesmer-factor, take a look around this place the last two nights. In that department Obama has got nuthin' on Palin. I believe that's what fundamentally scares the Democrats more than anything else. Today's fashion is tomorrow's trash. Obama's star-power has peaked too soon, and now there's a new star on the stage. Poetic justice: live by one convention speech, die by one convention speech.

31 posted on 09/05/2008 12:35:36 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Coming soon: why snow machine racing is more dangerous to the ice caps than global warming.)
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To: goldstategop
Kraut doesn't seem to understand that Palin is an expert on energy and that is one of the most important national security and economic problems of today.

oh and she also happens to be a reformer, some exec experience, very charming, etc
32 posted on 09/05/2008 12:38:13 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: Truthsearcher
He is an economic free market conservative, I think the whole pro-life/Christian thing bothers him.

It's possible. That label actually describes me to a very large degree, and like Krauthammer I was trained as a scientist and there are certainly aspects of Palin's fundamentalism that could bother me... if I let them. But I'll feel a whole lot safer as a religious skeptic in a country run by Christians that I would as a free market libertarian conservative in a country run by Barack Obama.

33 posted on 09/05/2008 12:41:44 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Coming soon: why snow machine racing is more dangerous to the ice caps than global warming.)
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To: goldstategop

well I actually wanted Mark Sanford. lots of good stuff there: mba, served in Newt’s House and reelected governor, many reforms. But what McCain really needed was Palin’s energy expertise because it’s the number 1 issue. Drill baby drill!


34 posted on 09/05/2008 12:44:32 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: goldstategop
Well stated (again.)

Transplanted to CO? I may be looking at the corridor between Colorado Springs through Fort Collins in the next 2 years.

I'm sick of hurricanes and Ike looks to be solidifying my "escape instinct"...

35 posted on 09/05/2008 12:47:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Williams
The fact is Obama is not qualified, and Palin is more qualified than Obama.

Exactly. Krauthammer fails to recognize that Palin's inexperience is actually a landmine for Obama-ites to step on. Anyone who saw Gingrich shred that MSNBC reporter who tried to trap him into admitting Palin was under-qualified knows what I mean. "Uh...back to you, Keith." Absolutely priceless!

36 posted on 09/05/2008 12:53:25 AM PDT by shteebo
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To: JLS
Krauthammer is just wrong on this.

As are other hand-wringers. If, God forbid, Palin became President through tragic circumstances, she would find all the help she needed in the cabinet -- which might well include Thompson, Romney, Giuliani, Leiberman, and many other smart people. Their counsel and wisdom, added to her own innate smarts, would serve her just fine.

Charles missed the boat, here, which he very rarely does.

37 posted on 09/05/2008 1:00:46 AM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: aklurker
By selecting Governor Palin, McCain has drawn Obama into a trap.

Precisely. McCain is playing chess and playing to WIN. He might be an older man, he might be a partially disabled vet, but he is definitely no Bob Dole.

I wasn't knocked over by McCain's speech and I saw the Code Pinkos trying to disrupt but it ended on a high note. Over all I think he's in good shape exiting his convention. Perhaps most importantly the base is charged up.

38 posted on 09/05/2008 1:50:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain-Palin. YES on CA PROP 4. (Family notification for underage abortions))
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To: FredZarguna
Obama is spectacularly unqualified, even in comparison to a small-town mayor and two year governor.

I'd said it before and was delighted one of the prime-time speakers picked up on the idea that Obama is the least experienced major party candidate in the last 100 years. It's a farce! If he were just another white man (or woman), he wouldn't have gotten out of the first caucus' starting gate. Sen Obama is the ultimate "affirmative action" candidate.


39 posted on 09/05/2008 1:56:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain-Palin. YES on CA PROP 4. (Family notification for underage abortions))
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To: goldstategop

IMHO, here’s what Charles doesn’t take into consideration. What/who were McCain’s other choices and how would they have helped? Each would have had their own set of negatives...with very little positive effect on the base. In the Palin choice there are negatives, for sure, but the positive influence on the base (shoring up the base, plus financial) is what was needed.


40 posted on 09/05/2008 3:22:59 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: calcowgirl
Charles Krauthammer is just a DU troll operative who wants Obama to win.

And you are?
41 posted on 09/05/2008 3:35:58 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: goldstategop

Sarah Palin is no accident. God has His Finger on the Presidential scale. Watching the MSM, the barely suppressed(in some cases not suppressed), rage, hatred, vitriol, one has to believe in the presence of pure evil.


42 posted on 09/05/2008 3:39:55 AM PDT by hershey
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To: JLS

Exactly. I can’t believe that they’re trying to take the tack that the fact that she is inexperienced (hardly) negates Obama’s inexperience. Not only are her credentials better than his, but she’s only the No. 2 on the ticket, not the candidate. Its quite astonishing, really, that all the comparisons are being made with Obama. Joe Biden seems to have dropped off the edge of the earth.


43 posted on 09/05/2008 4:02:40 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: goldstategop
I think Chuck has been watching too much of Donna Brazile on CNN. My wife and I watched McCain's speech and then heard Wolf ask Donna about McCain claiming he's the agent for change. This is as nearly a direct quote as I can recall:

Donna Brazile: John McCain CAN'T be CHANGE, because he is EXPERIENCE.

I kid you not. If you were watching CNN you heard it too. My wife and I looked at each other as if we both had witnessed someone say the most idiotic thing each of us had ever heard.

Oh, wait. We had.

Why is it Chuck has bought the tripe that McCain can ONLY be "change" OR "experience"? Does he really think the American people are too stupid to come to the conclusion "gee, if we really want change, should we vote for a liberal who has NO experience and has NEVER gone against liberal orthodoxy, OR should we we vote for an American war hero, who DOES have experience and a record of reform, even to the point of calling out his own party?"

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

And as far as the Palin pick, someone suggested that she was his ONLY choice. I would like to think he took her because he saw her as the BEST choice and not the ONLY choice, but the point is correct, IMO. I would ask Chuck and Peggy Noonan a very simple question:

After watching both conventions and seeing the explosive energy the GOP is taking to the streets out of this convention, please tell me WHO would have been a better VP pick than Sarah Palin. WHO??? Then I'd turn to Peggy and add, "Kay Bailey Hutchinson??? Are you freakin' kidding me?"
44 posted on 09/05/2008 4:03:48 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: Eye of Unk
Obama is barely eligible to be a vice president.

Obama isn't ready to be a Governor. I'm not sure he'd make a very good Mayor, either.

45 posted on 09/05/2008 4:11:36 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: Big Giant Head
Obama isn't ready to be a Governor. I'm not sure he'd make a very good Mayor, either.

I understand Alaska will soon have some openings. I'll bet they don't even have a communist organizer, er, I mean "community organizer".
46 posted on 09/05/2008 4:14:15 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: goldstategop

Obama has the REAL vetting & experience “issues,” not Palin.

Not much dirt has been dug up on Palin (except for her husband’s driving violations, 2 decades ago; is that all they got???).

Meanwhile, BO has much murky controversy about his associations, ideology, and true intentions for the country.

Sad how that is ignored, and the Media & SOME CONSERVATIVES focus in on Palin’s “Expired Costco membership card in 1989,” etc.

Why is this happening?
She’s great!!


47 posted on 09/05/2008 4:58:01 AM PDT by 4Liberty (discount window + moral hazard = bank corporate welfare + inflation tax)
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To: goldstategop

Krauthammer provides us in this article with a great illustration of the fact that being “intelligent”, “articulate” and “flat-out wrong” are not mutually exclusive propositions.

He is unquestionably a brilliant man, and an incisive and incredibly knowledgeable analyst of world affairs, the politics of power, and the frightening array of dire threats we face from our enemies around the world. He is always worth reading, listening to and considering his analyses and arguments on the issues of our time. He is also a wonderful role model in the sense of his personal life history of overcoming tremendous personal adversity and severe health problems to achieve great success by dint of his intelligence, determination, and sheer indomitable willpower.

He does, however, have certain glaring and serious weaknesses which must be understood and factored into our considerations before accepting the validity of his conclusions.

Krauthammer, for all his good points, is an ideological elitist, statist internationalist and unabashed advocate of strong, centralized government power. He is an enthusiastic member of our self-annointed oligarchical class, those who consider themselves far more qualified to run things than we mere common-folk.

Most dangerous of all, he is no friend of the US Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, and the concepts of freedom and unalienable natural rights which formed the foundational basis of our Republic.

If you go back through his collective body of works you will find countless brilliant analyses of foreign affairs issues, e.g. what to do about North Korea,Iraq, Iran, Russia, etc., but very little material about the continuing and accelerating erosion of the rights and freedom of the American people at the hands of our own government. The painful truth is, he thinks that trend is just fine, and all “that stuff” about freedom, individual rights and limited government answerable to the people is outmoded and irrelevant in our “modern” world.

To illustrate this point, I have posted here many times the following very telling quote of Krauthammer’s, which he has never retracted. I believe all Freepers should keep a copy of it for reference and consider it well when weighing Krauthammer’s pronouncements on issues:

“Ultimately, a civilized society must disarm its citizenry if it is to have a modicum of domestic tranquility of the kind enjoyed by sister democracies such as Canada and Britain. Given the frontier history and individualist ideology of the United States, however, this will not come easily. It certainly cannot be done radically. It will probably take one, maybe two generations. It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today. Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic - purely symbolic - move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.” - Charles Krauthammer, “Disarm the Citizenry,” The Washington Post, Friday, April 5, 1996, page A19

In relation to his analysis of the Sarah Palin nomination, the above quote provides some clues as to why he’s simply wrong this time. It may be that its just another illustration that as one of the Beltway elitist crowd simply doesn’t “get it” and can’t comprehend the mindset of the rest of us in flyover country.

Or, more ominously, since Krauthammer really is a brilliant man and a deep thinker, it might be that he actually does “get it” and recognizes that if, in the fullness of time, a Sarah Palin type who, e.g., unabashedly champions a free, armed citizenry, does rise up and inspire the American people to stand up to the globalist crowd and resist the seemingly inexorable slide of our integration into the so-called “world community”, then she represent a mortal threat to his vision of the future.


48 posted on 09/05/2008 5:11:59 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: GLDNGUN

A “commie organizer” {har} is: someone who is not practical, effective or successful enough in the civic-skills dept. to break through, enter local office, and introduce actual changes for the community.

Apparently B.O. is quite petulant and brooding in real life. He is UNWILLING to dialog with those who disagree with him.

That is what Professor John Lott said on Mark Levin’s show. He taught at U. Chicago while BO was there. BO was not an active, engaged member of the campus community in any sense, Lott said. BO refused to go out to lunch or dinner with colleagues at U.Chicago with whom he had policy disagreements, mix it up, discuss the issues.

That is not very collegial behavior, that is the behavior of a dogmatic, petulant self-absorbed elitist.

So much for the healer/uniter image his campaign tries to
project to the public.

The guy apparently is a sulking, pouting autocratic dummie who moves through his professional life with delusions of grandeur as our coming Central-Planner savior. He has no interest in reaching out and learning others’ views, or even learning about the potential weaknesses of government-run societies & systems.

He’s like this naive, undergraduate in college who has attended a few Marxist study groups, and has been bitten by socialist fever, but really doesn’t know what it (socialism) is all about.

I just don’t think he’s very smart, but he THINKS he’s very smart. Sad, and scary...


49 posted on 09/05/2008 5:14:27 AM PDT by 4Liberty (discount window + moral hazard = bank corporate welfare + inflation tax)
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To: FredZarguna; Truthsearcher
He is an economic free market conservative, I think the whole pro-life/Christian thing bothers him.

That is a valid point. It might be helpful to research the FR archives and read how rabidly Krauthammer attacked Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ" a few years ago. He even claimed it might inflame Christian moviegoers to the point that they might engage in violence against Jews reminiscent of the medieval pogroms by Christians blaming Jews because "they killed Christ".

His commentaries on the subject were simply astounding.

50 posted on 09/05/2008 6:02:10 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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