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Study: No link between measles vaccine and autism
AP via YAHOO! ^ | 9-3-08 | LAURAN NEERGAARD

Posted on 09/03/2008 5:38:58 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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Don Imus, call your office.
1 posted on 09/03/2008 5:39:01 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: neverdem; NonValueAdded; Coleus; blam; SunkenCiv; Clemenza; weegee; wagglebee; sinkspur; Eschoir; ..

Health ping...


2 posted on 09/03/2008 5:40:57 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Now you’ve done it! The anti-vaccine, anti-virus, whackos will be out in force.


3 posted on 09/03/2008 5:46:13 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Aren’t they all at the Ron Paul convention??


4 posted on 09/03/2008 5:48:27 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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OK, what is Sarah Palin accused of doing this time?


5 posted on 09/03/2008 6:00:24 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (McCain will screw the conservatives, but, Obama will screw the whole country.)
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To: Pharmboy

No,
Who funded the study?


6 posted on 09/03/2008 6:01:47 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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Maybe a Mercola bash.


7 posted on 09/03/2008 6:06:24 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Added co-author Dr. Larry Pickering of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: "I feel very certain that it is a safe vaccine."

CDC folks cannot take any outside money--from you, from me, or from Merck.

8 posted on 09/03/2008 6:08:05 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Mmm hmmm, and Dr. W. Ian Lipkin who specializes in immunology - no bias there?


9 posted on 09/03/2008 6:11:55 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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it’s almost pointless to bring it up. The Trail Lawyers created the argument and the conspiracy theorists on both sides take off with it because it ‘seems’ like it might be true.

Dalkon Shield. Breast Implants. Vaccines. Just add it to the list of multi-billion dollar deep pockets trial lawyers need to keep their industry flush.


10 posted on 09/03/2008 6:16:01 PM PDT by bpjam (Obama is Black. Stop Asking Questions, Dammit!!!)
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Mmm hmmm, and Dr. W. Ian Lipkin who specializes in immunology - no bias there?

Please explain more. It's very hard to follow your logic. Yes--he's an immunologist. Are you implying that immunologists are incapable of being unbiased scientists?

11 posted on 09/03/2008 6:20:45 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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thanks, bfl


12 posted on 09/03/2008 6:26:59 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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I’d like to know where most of his funding comes from.
No, with his biography, I don’t believe he’s unbiased.


13 posted on 09/03/2008 6:33:24 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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Here's his bio. You are showing more ignorance with each post. You are making accusations about a dedicated, highly accomplished scientist. I'm afraid it is YOU who is biased (and you may not be a total idiot, but you sure sound like one).

Department of Epidemiology, Columbia University

Ian Lipkin M.D. Professor

wil2001@columbia.edu

Telephone: 342-9033
Fax: 851-5395

Research interests

Background: W. Ian Lipkin, MD, is Professor of Epidemiology in the Mailman School of Public Health, and Director of both the Laboratory for Immunopathogenesis and Infectious Diseases, and the Center for Developmental Neuroscience. Through June 2002 Dr. Lipkin also holds academic positions at University of California Irvine where he is the Louise Turner Arnold Chair of Neuroscience, Director of the Emerging Diseases Laboratory and Professor in the Departments of Neurology, Anatomy and Neurobiology, and Microbiology and Molecular Genetics. He is internationally recognized as an authority on the use of molecular biological methods for pathogen discovery and the role of immune and microbial factors in neurologic and neuropsychiatric diseases.

Dr. Lipkin received a BA from Sarah Lawrence College in 1974, where he studied cultural anthropology, philosophy, and literature; and an MD from Rush Medical College in 1978. His postgraduate training included Clerkship at the Queen Square Institute of Neurology in London, UK (1977-78); Internship in Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh (1978-79); Residency in Internal Medicine at the University of Washington (1979-81), Residency in Neurology at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF, 1981-84), and Fellowship in Neurovirology and Molecular Neurobiology at The Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla (TSRI, 1984-1990). His honors include National Multiple Sclerosis Society Postdoctoral Fellowship, 1984-1987, Clinical Investigator Development Award, National Institutes of Health, National Institute of Neurological and Communicative Disorders and Stroke, 1987-1992, NARSAD Young Investigator, 1991, Pew Scholar, 1991, Visiting Professor, Japanese Human Science Foundation, 1999, Visiting Bruenn Professor, Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons, 2000, Louise Turner Arnold Chair in the Neurosciences, 2000, Foundation Lecturer, American Society of Microbiology, 2001, Ellison Medical Foundation Senior Scholar in Global Infectious Diseases, 2001.

While a Resident in Neurology, Dr. Lipkin established the first clinic for investigating neurologic manifestations of HIV infection. In 1983, he identified AIDS-associated inflammatory neuropathy and demonstrated that this crippling syndrome could be treated with plasmapheresis. In 1988 as a fellow with Dr. Michael Oldstone at TSRI he demonstrated that early life viral infection can cause behavioral and neurotransmitter disturbances without obvious evidence of brain infection or injury. The observation that cryptic infection can influence brain function is increasingly recognized as important in the context of neuropsychiatric diseases such as autism and schizophrenia; and it may also play a role in neurodegenerative disorders. To address such questions, Dr. Lipkin created molecular methods for rapidly detecting unknown viruses in clinical materials. The first application of these methods resulted in identification of Borna disease virus, a new type of virus that had eluded classical methods for virus purification. Since isolating the first genes of this virus in 1990, Dr. Lipkin cloned its genome and defined its replication strategy and the molecular basis for neurotropism and behavioral syndromes associated with acute and persistent brain infection. An international multi-center program coordinated by Dr. Lipkin is assessing the role of Borna disease virus in human neuropsychiatric diseases using methods patented by Lipkin, Briese and colleagues. Dr. Lipkin is the leader of the team that established the method of domain specific differential display and subsequently identified the West Nile virus in the brains of encephalitis victims in New York State in the fall of 1999.

14 posted on 09/03/2008 6:49:50 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Your personal attacks do nothing for your argument.


15 posted on 09/03/2008 6:59:19 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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I did not attack you. You have some nerve to accuse this guy of bias with NOTHING to back it up. I said you may NOT be an idiot, but you sure sound like one.

YOU were the one who started with personal attacks, and if you cannot make any points based on data, than shut up and do not make baseless claims. You sound like a liberal.

16 posted on 09/03/2008 7:07:10 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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I’d like to know where your funding comes from and what bias’ you have.
Who are you relying on for information and on what do you base your comments?


17 posted on 09/03/2008 7:11:50 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Little hot under the collar for someone disagreeing with you how come? I thought we could disagree??

I work in the field with medical research, and if you don’t know there are biases, and studies that have a desired outcome, perhaps it’s not I that is ignorant.

No, surprisingly the liberals are normally the one who think we need the government to take care of us and our children. I’m shocked that you think otherwise.

Now, you have insulted me at least three times, I didn’t insult you once I merely disagreed with you.


18 posted on 09/03/2008 7:14:23 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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I will type slowly so maybe you'll get it. You didn't disagree with me or anyone else; you accused a renowned scientist of bias--twice--without furnishing any proof or even mild backup. That's just what libs do. I was merely pointing out that anyone who does that is ignorant or biased. If the shoe fits...
19 posted on 09/03/2008 7:19:53 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Does putting people down continually usually make you more right? Or do people just tire of your insults

I didn’t accuse HIM of bias, I asked Where does his funding come from - it’s a legitimate question. For you to be so upset makes me wonder why?


20 posted on 09/03/2008 7:24:05 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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