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Jewish Voters May Be Wary Of Palin
Politico ^ | 9/2/08 | Ben Smith

Posted on 09/03/2008 8:14:06 AM PDT by steve-b

Barack Obama has struggled for 18 months to lock down the support of a traditionally Democratic group, Jewish voters.

In the past week, John McCain may have helped Obama with his Jewish problem by choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate....

"There is almost always an inverse proportion between a candidate's popularity among conservative Christians and secular Jews," said Jeff Ballabon, a Republican lobbyist long active in Jewish politics who supports McCain.

An illustration of that gap came just two weeks ago, when Palin's church, the Wasilla Bible Church, gave its pulpit over to a figure viewed with deep hostility by many Jewish organizations: David Brickner, the founder of Jews for Jesus.

Palin's pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced Brickner on Aug. 17, according to a transcript of the sermon on the church's website.

"He's a leader of Jews for Jesus, a ministry that is out on the leading edge in a pressing, demanding area of witnessing and evangelism," Kroon said...

Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

Palin was in church that day, Kroon said, though he cautioned against attributing Brickner’s views to her....

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; antisemitism; jewishvote; jewsforjesus; mccainpalin; palin; palinrippedmyflesh; pds; politcospin; pulpitproblem; stevebsfantasyworld; stevebthread; whataload
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And there goes any hope of getting any use out of the Reverrund Wright issue....
1 posted on 09/03/2008 8:14:11 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Cue the awjeez guy.


2 posted on 09/03/2008 8:14:39 AM PDT by library user (What say you, Messiah?)
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To: steve-b

You are right, McCain should have picked Lieberman.


3 posted on 09/03/2008 8:15:49 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: steve-b
ONE guest speaker, ONE time at Palin's church = 20 years of racist rhetoric at Obama's church

Isn't Demoncrat mathematics fun!?

4 posted on 09/03/2008 8:16:39 AM PDT by ikka
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To: steve-b

And some how Reverand WRIGHT is okay?

He HATES Jews. He HATES WHITES. He loves to “dam” America at large and subscribes to BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY.

AMAZING!


5 posted on 09/03/2008 8:16:40 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: steve-b

Was Reverend Wright a “guest speaker” at his church for 20 years?


6 posted on 09/03/2008 8:16:44 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Perdogg
McCain should have picked Lieberman.

Again -- somebody on the Internet can figure this out, and McCain and his people can't?

7 posted on 09/03/2008 8:17:13 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Perdogg

That would have been WORSE.


8 posted on 09/03/2008 8:17:17 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: steve-b
That Israeli flag in her office window is a clear sign that she's a neo-Nazi. Of course, this will cause Jewish voters to to switch to the candidate schooled in a madrassa.

The health of "journalism" is poor, indeed.

9 posted on 09/03/2008 8:17:30 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Government intervention helped make the Great Depression great.)
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To: steve-b
Jewish Voters May Be Wary Of Palin

Yet, they'll vote for Obama who wants to give credibility to AmaNutJob in Iran by having "talks" with him

Unreal

10 posted on 09/03/2008 8:17:50 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Perdogg

Did you forget a /sarcasm tag or .... ?


11 posted on 09/03/2008 8:17:50 AM PDT by library user (What say you, Messiah?)
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To: steve-b

Politico BARF ALERT!


12 posted on 09/03/2008 8:18:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: steve-b

Why, I believe this is a steve-b thread.


13 posted on 09/03/2008 8:18:13 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: library user

Ah,now, this is real funny. Left Wingers hate the Jews. That is funny. On just about any blog site, LW’rs advocate exterminating the Jews and eliminating Israel, supporting the PLO and the Hamas, and making Jerusalem the capitol of an Arab country. And, Louis “Kill all the Jews” Farrakhan and Al “burn the Jews in their houses” Sharpton are Barak’s close friends.


14 posted on 09/03/2008 8:18:27 AM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: steve-b

Jeez, man...can you just go the F(&%(& elsewhere??? You’re like Alan Colmes, you pick up on the medias bashing and run with it....you simply have no sense....you dont belong here.
YOU FORGOT your talking point this morning...vetting vetting vetting...what’s the new buzz word???


15 posted on 09/03/2008 8:18:32 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: steve-b

Que up the pics of Hillary kissing Arfats wife.

Pelosi visiting Assad

Obama’s Pastor

Obama saying we should talk to Iran.


16 posted on 09/03/2008 8:18:58 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Perdogg

Perdogg, just wait until Sarah Palin goes on the late night TV shows and people see how down-to-earth and likable she is. This will help get more people to vote for McCain. Lieberman peaked a long time ago. He would not do much to help. If - at this point - someone isn’t convinced McCain/Palin is the way to go, then they will never crossover anyway.


17 posted on 09/03/2008 8:20:09 AM PDT by library user (What say you, Messiah?)
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To: steve-b
Considering most American Jews are liberal as opposed to being Jewish, few of them would have warmed up to a Republican candidate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 09/03/2008 8:20:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: steve-b
Again -- somebody on the Internet can figure this out, and McCain and his people can't?

McCain figures most people will know the diffrence between a guest speaker and a racist pastor.

Your falling for the pathetic attempt at comparing the church experiences of Barry and Sarah Palin is surprising, and just exactly what the MSM is after.

19 posted on 09/03/2008 8:21:01 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Government intervention helped make the Great Depression great.)
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To: steve-b
Barry has done just about everything to tell Jews he is a Muslim-sympathiser and doesn't give a fig about them or Israel. Perhaps that's why he can't “lock down Jewish voters.”
20 posted on 09/03/2008 8:21:23 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: nmh

Somehow equating the bubbling cauldron of hatred that calls itself reverend wright with an organization that merely offers the love of Christ to the Jewish people just strikes me as weird.


21 posted on 09/03/2008 8:21:28 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Vigilantism will arise where the justice system is viewed as overly lenient and/or ineffective.)
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To: steve-b
just another piece of irresponsible, stupid and untrue reporting from Politico....

Republicans Say Palin's Israeli Flag Says It All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2072940/posts http://www.vosizneias.com/19873/2008/08/31/alaska-chabad-rabbi-sarah-palin-a-great-friend-the-jewish-community/
Alaska - Chabad Rabbi: Sarah Palin a Great Friend To The Jewish Community

Gov. Palin (seen at far right) at Israel 60th Anniversary event in Anchorage.

22 posted on 09/03/2008 8:22:06 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: library user

I was being saracastic.


23 posted on 09/03/2008 8:22:25 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: steve-b
POlitico is a Obama front group!
24 posted on 09/03/2008 8:22:53 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: steve-b

I was being sarcastic.


25 posted on 09/03/2008 8:22:56 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Phew, you’re starting to scare me. :O)


26 posted on 09/03/2008 8:23:06 AM PDT by library user (What say you, Messiah?)
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To: Perdogg
You are right, McCain should have picked Lieberman.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Write off ALL conservatives in the HOPE of picking up a share of the Jewish vote.

The ONLY state with a sizable Jewish population that the GOP really has a chance in is Florida and Lieberman couldn't even deliver that at a Democrat, what makes you think he could do it as a Republican?

27 posted on 09/03/2008 8:23:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: steve-b
Busy again today I see. This guy was on Hugh Hewitt's show yesterday and anyone who hears him will be very reassured. What an amazing man. He calls Jews in Alaska "The Frozen Chosen".

Leave it to you to find the anti-Palin propaganda for the day, but it has nothing to do with Wright...unless you dive back into the sewer and come up with a piece where he accuses the Eskimos of causing AIDS.

28 posted on 09/03/2008 8:23:59 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Hegemony Cricket; wideawake; Zionist Conspirator
There isn't much comparison. But ‘Jews For Jesus’ is a deceptive organization that targets young Jews who won't understand their faith that well yet and convinces them that belief in Jesus as Messiah is perfectly compatible with Judaism. As I understand...it is not.
29 posted on 09/03/2008 8:24:13 AM PDT by Borges
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To: steve-b
Again -- somebody on the Internet can figure this out, and McCain and his people can't?

McCain and his people met the Sunday before his pick of Sarah Palin and rightfully came to the conclusion that they could not get away with picking Joe Lieberman. The conservative base and talk radio would openly revolt....me along with them too.

30 posted on 09/03/2008 8:25:02 AM PDT by Night Conservative (Sarah Palin for Vice President in 2008.)
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To: Perdogg; steve-b

Okay, obviously the serial Palin hater who started this thread WAS NOT.


31 posted on 09/03/2008 8:25:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: steve-b

Are you nuts?


32 posted on 09/03/2008 8:25:18 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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And there goes any hope of getting any use out of the Reverrund Wright issue....

You forgot to throw Pat Buchanan into the posting...

33 posted on 09/03/2008 8:25:26 AM PDT by frogjerk (Barry Hussein Obama, commuinty organizer, talker and something else he did...)
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To: Perdogg

I think the Jewish people are a little smarter than that. They know that their taxes are going to go up with Obama and go up at huge rates.


34 posted on 09/03/2008 8:25:48 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Convert from ECUSA

pinging the Governor Palin pro-Israel ping list....


35 posted on 09/03/2008 8:26:17 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: steve-b

Hey, whoa, hold on.

No panicking allowed.

Two far different stories.

And if Mr. McCain had selected Lieberman the election would be over now.


36 posted on 09/03/2008 8:27:00 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: steve-b
"There is almost always an inverse proportion between a candidate's popularity among conservative Christians and secular Jews," said Jeff Ballabon, a Republican lobbyist long active in Jewish politics who supports McCain.

I'm not sure that this statement is still true. Anybody have the numbers on how well GWB did with the Jewish Vote? I suspect he did very well.

37 posted on 09/03/2008 8:27:51 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: RC2

I think Jewish voters may have concerns about Palin, but they would be about her qualification to be President, not about a guest speaker at her congregation.


38 posted on 09/03/2008 8:28:09 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: RC2

I was being sarcastic.


39 posted on 09/03/2008 8:28:34 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: steve-b

Bavid Brickner didn’t found Jews for Jesus. Moishe Rosen did. I think Brickner is the current president/leader of the organization, which is very Jewish and pro-Jew. Jesus was a Jew and is their Messiah, which the “Jews for Jesus” simply point out to those Jews who are interested.


40 posted on 09/03/2008 8:28:36 AM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Puppage

And when Joe Lieberman is campaigning in South Florida for McCain, the old jewish retirees there will ignore him and vote for Obama of the Trinity Racist Church? I don’t think so! This feeble attempt to portray Palin as anti-semetic will backfire on the Dems. They are only pulling it out because they know Lieberman will give McCain cred with Jews that Obama will never have.


41 posted on 09/03/2008 8:30:44 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: srweaver

well, there I’ll have to part ways with you. Jews for Jesus is attempting to convince Jews that Jesus was the promised Messiah, in other words to become Christians. So it’s mutually exclusive with being Jewish to be a Jew for Jesus. But other than that, I don’t think Jews object to them any more than they do to any other attempts to proselytize.


42 posted on 09/03/2008 8:31:08 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: steve-b

“There is almost always an inverse proportion between a candidate’s popularity among conservative Christians and secular Jews,”

And what sort of a relationship is there between a candidate who is extrememly popular with Muslims and Jews? Yeah, Barry’s got the Jewish vote locked up.


43 posted on 09/03/2008 8:31:19 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: steve-b
Jewish Voters May Be Wary Of Palin

Only the ones who were going to vote for Obama anyway.

44 posted on 09/03/2008 8:32:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: steve-b; Alouette

THIS IS GARBAGE. Sure, there are lots of crazy crazy liberal reform Jews who would rage against Palin. But they were way on board for Obama already. The talk I’ve heard lately consists of: concerns that Obama isn’t even an American citizen, how overblown the controversy is about Palin’s teen daughter, and how Palin has an Israeli flag in her office.


45 posted on 09/03/2008 8:32:17 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (Welcome home, former McCain haters and rageaholics!)
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To: steve-b

Identity politics approaches satire level. Its like Mel Brooks and Jerry Seinfeld having a pissing contest.


46 posted on 09/03/2008 8:33:09 AM PDT by junta ("Better dead than white")
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To: steve-b

The Jewish vote is going to go to the Dems regardless. It is quixotic to pursue it. There are far more evangelicals out there and most of them are solid conservatives.


47 posted on 09/03/2008 8:35:02 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: steve-b

The last time I checked, Joe Lieberman was still listed as being of the Jewish faith. In fact, he’s the fist and only Jewish person that I know of who has run for Vice President of either party and last night he endorsed John McCain and Sarah Palin. She obviously didn’t scare him away.


48 posted on 09/03/2008 8:35:07 AM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
David Brickner, the founder of Jews for Jesus.

Who the heck is David Brickner? I thought Morris Rosen was the founder of Jews for Jesus.

FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

49 posted on 09/03/2008 8:36:29 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Borges
But ‘Jews For Jesus’ is a deceptive organization that targets young Jews who won't understand their faith that well yet and convinces them that belief in Jesus as Messiah is perfectly compatible with Judaism.

Be specific. . .how are they deceptive? They truly believe what they are teaching these 'young targets' as you call them, so how is that deceptive?

As I understand...it is not.

They understand differently.

50 posted on 09/03/2008 8:36:39 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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