Posted on 08/28/2008 2:46:46 PM PDT by jessduntno
Palin isn't the miracle answer to all our problems, but it's the best we're going to get for this cycle. Your divisive attacks on McCain are getting very old, very fast. His honor and bravery as a POW were unquestionable. If you have something new to add, then add it, but don't keep sniping on the same themes.
I suppose a partial no answer is as close to an answer as you can get.
You speak of Palin, but I hadn’t mentioned her. Then, in your tag line, you got it almost totally wrong too. Plenty of people who were not going to vote McCain are now going to because they believe that she makes up for all of McCain’s ‘sins’.
You’ve decided that the time for ‘third parties’ is now over for this election, so everyone should shut up? I may have said that I was going to vote third party, but I don’t recall so yet again, your reply is non-responsive.
How is asking questions being divisive? Where did I question his bravery or service? I questioned the report of him being close to death and his recovery without medical intervention.
Is ‘Hall Monitor’ a paid position or volunteer?
99% of the time I live and let live. God knows, plenty of my posts have been wrong or stupid or counterproductive. In one particular case I argued against the 2003 Iraq invasion even after it was decided (in late 2002). I was asked to stop arguing (well asked would be a nice word) because I was impacting troop morale. I stopped pretty soon after that.
I don't track trolls or newbies very often, don't have the time and nobody pays me to be here or do that. Maybe one time a year at most. I have occasionally called out a poster I thought was a troll and there was one occasion where I contributed to the banning of an obvious troll (much more obvious than you).
The reason I spoke of Palin is I checked your other posts to make sure you weren't bad mouthing her. There are still third party deadenders who are. You are not and that is good. Considering your posting history I do not think you are a troll (whew that must come as relief to you!)
With that kind of censorship there is always the danger of group-think. But I don't think that is a problem in this case, there are still plenty of reasonable arguments against McCain's specific positions. I just don't like innuendo such as your postings in this thread.
Ok, I changed my tagline a bit just to please you.
I am not preoccupied with that. I dismissed it as having any importance. You are just trying to make it seem like I am.
McCain mentioned it in his speech but did not elaborate and I do not know what it entailed, if anything.
What I don’t forgive him for is the legislation that he championed. He did his worst without any coercion or torture at all and while living in luxury.
I am the anti-PC and some people just can’t stand it. I don’t like spin and I don’t like lies from either side. When I see something that false, I call it out. When I see something questionable, I challenge it.
I am now no longer a Republican, but even when I was, I refused to support the “R”. I don’t believe that you get the best representation if you do that. If you forgive their bad votes — and reward them with your vote again — you don’t hold them to any standard at all. The only thing that pols pay attention to is the voter who has not climbed onto their bandwagon. Once you are aboard, they can forget about you.
If we hadn’t withheld our support from McCain, we wouldn’t have got Palin. Why would he give us anything when we were already on board if he could instead win other votes with other promises?
Relate this to any negotiation. If you accept the first offer, you will not get what you want. You have to say no and say it often. The fear of lose (a sale or an election) is a great motivator. If you hold out, they will give in. Always let the politician know that your vote is never to be taken for granted even if you have already decided that you will vote that way.
If we give in early then we are little different from the girl that ‘gives it up’ on the first date when there is no commitment from the man. They have to earn it. ;-)
Who, and what do they say little man?
You're an idiot.
Hey Weasel, what does your statement have to do with POW McCain?
Ten days to respond. Impressive.
There have been stories of both heroism and betrayal for over 20 years. Some were by others who were in prison at that same time. I don’t know now who said what or when. Try a search if you don’t believe that those stories exist.
I said that the posted story left room for doubt about what happened and past reports show that to be the case. Since we have no proof either way, I base my opinion of him on his political career, not his military experience.
Is that plain enough for you? I shall expect your reply sometime this month or next. Don’t worry. I’m patient.
That’s pretty good. Are you a former liberal?
Is that where you learned to take part of a sentence out of context and then try make a big deal of it?
I read it. I didn’t say that I knew it to be true or that I believed it. I just read it. Are you saying that I didn’t read it?
In fact, I added that if he was involved . . .
Just go back and read what I wrote. I am tiring of repeating myself to those who can’t or won’t read.
Try to keep up with your own comments and you’ll likely be less confused about the ‘discussion’ though I cannot guarantee that.
Ten days ago, you said that you will defend McCain because he was a naval aviator and in return, I asked if you believed that all service men (and women to be fair and inclusive) were also free of criticism.
If you are, we can disband the UCMJ and the JAG’s office because we are wasting a lot of time and money. My response to you didn’t mention McCain, only the uniform. I wanted to see if your defense applied across the board or was limited to McCain.
Again, take your time in finding an answer and getting back to me.
You are pathetic. I'll bet you got beat up a lot in middle school. You can't back up your accusations.
You still can’t tell me who or what. Try again idiot.
(Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.)
I made no accusations. You made a comment and I asked a question to clarify it. You have refused to answer.
I bet that you had to rely on beating people up because you can’t follow a conversation or discuss anything.
“You still can’t tell me who or what. Try again idiot.”
(Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.)
Try again to follow the rules and play nice with others.
Bite me.
McCain’s experience was like that of the rest of the POWS. Are there any other Vietnam era POWS you hold in such contempt for their service?
I don’t think so. You’d probably taste pretty nasty.
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