Air France jumbo skids off Montreal runway

Canwest News Service ^ | August 26, 2008

[Semper911]

MONTREAL - An Air France Boeing 747 skidded off the runway at Montreal's Trudeau International airport after it landed Tuesday afternoon.

Early indications are there were no serious injuries and video of the airplane shows no signs of major damage, Montreal police confirmed. Emergency vehicles surrounded the jumbo jet at the airport as crews worked around the aircraft, which was stuck in the grass beside the runway.

The airport remains open and television footage shows planes continuing to take off and land. More to come

© Canwest News Service 2008

[Semper911]

This is probably already posted, but the FR search engine is not that reliable.

[Gorzaloon]

I see Ground Control was speaking the Canuc dialect to a crew from France.

[Uriah_lost]

It’s so cool that they named an airport after a cartoonist!

;)

[MIT-Elephant]

French culture seems to be a common thread in the characteristics of the story. It’s a Boeing airplane, but two French factors.

[buccaneer81]

Montreal Gazette web site reports no injuries. The accompanying photo shows a 747 with landing gear intact, barely off the edge of a runway.

[buccaneer81]

[Semper911]

barely off the edge of a runway

I am glad I wasn't a passenger, and even more glad I wasn't driving.

[sionnsar]

It’s so cool that they named an airport after a cartoonist! ;)

Not that one. But if so I bet the plane skidded off the port side. (Do airplanes have port & starboard? I know they don't have gunwales though they do have rudders, how about keels?)

[I see my hands]

[fanfan]

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Okay, tin foil hat on. What is with all these aircraft incidents in one week? Must be something in the air (no pun intended :-)

[Semper911]

So wait: you think I don't know the definition of skid?

I just posted the article, dude. That's what we do here.

[Moose4]

Somebody call Joe Patroni.

}:-)4

[ken21]

si.

i’ve searched and found nothing and posted,

only to be corrected.

[I see my hands]

"So wait: you think I don't know the definition of skid? I just posted the article, dude. That's what we do here."

I've waited. No, that's not what I think. I know you just posted the article, thanks for doing so. I know what's done here.

Every reply isn't directed personally at the poster, often (as in the case of post #9) it is directed at the article.

[isom35]

http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsK/9288-356.gif

[SkyDancer]

Yup - port and starboard and keels and rudders all make up parts of today’s aircraft - leftover usage from sailing days as in ships of the air .... they also have fore and aft too. Their movements are also pitch, yaw and roll and use propellers - very early control wheels were actually round.

jane

[mfccinsd]

At least they don’t like repeat mistakes...we’ve already seen it with the Airbus in Toronto. LOL.

Seriously though, this has not been a good last 10 days in aviation. Glad this one seems not to be as serious.

[buccaneer81]

[Candor7]

Landed long, and hauled up short?

[Candor7]

I see Ground Control was speaking the Canuc dialect to a crew from France>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"Halo dare Flit Hair Francoise, is dat you? Dis is me."

"Squwaak vingt Hangels, hintercourse seexty niner, clear to stear sur harunweigh three twenty niner soixante noof."

"Bun Chanz."

"Bienvenu a Monreal!"

[Gorzaloon]

The part that is most funny is they ALL claim to speak Parisian...

[Candor7]

One might posit a theory that the A/C landed long and heavy and the intrepid pilot, seeing the end of the runway approaching, may have app]plied the binders a little too stringently and then there have been a slight wobble and the pilot straightened it out only to end up on the verge, very close to the tarmac.

From the photo, if it indeed is from PETA ( oh the irony), , this may have been slightly exacerbated by a wet runway and a landing approach in "de fawgue".

Must have been a nail biter.

[Candor7]

Yep! Le Patois de Quebecois grinds on the Continental French. I happen to like it though.

[I see my hands]

It's possible, I guess. But for sure I'm still smiling at "de fawgue." :)

[the invisib1e hand]

crews worked around the aircraft, which was stuck in the grass beside the runway.

That's the problem with those jumbo jets -- they're completely helpless in tall grass.

[UCANSEE2]

Yes. But do they have anchors?

[UCANSEE2]

“Must have been a nail biter.”

And the ‘skid’ may have had more to do with ‘marks’ in the pilot’s underwear.

[Ramius]

Skyhooks. :-)

[Candor7]

And the ‘skid’ may have had more to do with ‘marks’ in the pilot’s underwear.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flew nav with a lot of bush pilots in the Canadian North.

There is no feeling like it!LOL.

[SkyDancer]

In case of brake failure .... :)

[Semper911]

those jumbo jets -- they're completely helpless in tall grass.

LOL

[Candor7]

Being from Vermont, I fly some out of Montreal. In the morning, when a lot of International trans Atlantic flights come in, the ground fog from the Saint Lawrence river can be like pea soup. Its a chore for pilots to track where the near edge of the runway is on approach, even with the ground lights on full, and also hard to judge approach speed relative to the ground, because it can't be seen.

A lot of times pilots come on to approach VFR when they probably should be making an instrument approach on the IFR glide path.The pilot was probably a newby or just thought he could do it VFR and likely landed long a hundred yards or so.

The photo on this thread was likely taken around 9 am or so, after the fog had lifted. You can still see how damp the ground was.

So we have that name for the fog in Montreal, its actually an in family joke.

" de fawgue"

[Mr. Binnacle]

crews worked around the aircraft, which was stuck in the grass beside the runway.

That's the problem with those jumbo jets -- they're completely helpless in tall grass.

The problem is the wheels sink into the ground due to the immense weight of the plane focused on a small surface area. More of a "mud" problem than a grass problem! They normally lift the plane with air bags or a crane to get it back on a firm surface (makeshift roadway) so they can tow it away

[wastedyears]

Any aircraft skidding off the runway is a lot of metal, but a 747 skidding off the runway is a whole lot of metal.

[wastedyears]

Nevermind a nail-biter, it would have been an airport-undergarment-and-pants changer for me.

[river rat]

Actually, This Trudeau was a French Canadian Leftist clown.....not a cartoonist....

This ass clown didn’t believe that WWII was “justified”

“Trudeau reflected on his opposition to conscription and his doubts about the war in his 1993 Memoirs: “So there was a war? Tough... if you were a French Canadian in Montreal in the early 1940s, you did not automatically believe that this was a just war... we tended to think of this war as a settling of scores among the superpowers.”[5]

[UCANSEE2]

“Any aircraft skidding off the runway is a lot of metal, but a 747 skidding off the runway is a whole lot of metal.”

Heavy Metal?

[max americana]

>Actually, This Trudeau was a French Canadian Leftist clown.....not a cartoonist....

This ass clown didn’t believe that WWII was “justified”<

Being from BC, Canada born and bred, you are correct. The guy is an arrogant, lefty asshat who thought he was God’s gift to Canadians. Every canadian textbook placed him on a pedestal in which he almost did nothing but raise our taxes. I wasn’t born back then, but his most “historic” achievement is dating movie starlets.

[headstamp 2]

“They don’t call them problems anymore. They call them Patronis!”

[headstamp 2]

They better get it outta there right away before the “Conga Line” has to push it outta the way.

[Uriah_lost]

I guess you missed the “wink” emoticon at the end of my post. hehe

[Clemenza]

The Mayor of Montreal was sent to an internment camp for his opposition to conscription and his speeches against involvement in WWII.

[Clemenza]

BTW: Do folks still speak French in NE Vermont?

[Clemenza]

BTTT

[wastedyears]

Heavy, heavy metal

[Unrepentant VN Vet]

Actually, seaplanes have carried anchors as standard equipment for years.

I also heard rumors that engineers on the early Shuttle program added VERY large anchors to the design as soon as they were informed that agents for the Soviets were requesting copies under the Freedom of Information Act.

(Even rocket scientists get to have fun.)