Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bush aide O'Dell says New Orleans City Hall 'failing' at [post-Katrina] recovery
The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune ^ | August 24, 2008 | Bruce Nolan

Posted on 08/25/2008 8:37:44 AM PDT by rrstar96

On one of his frequent visits to New Orleans, federal recovery coordinator Douglas O'Dell delivered a bruising critique of the Nagin administration on Thursday, saying "there is growing frustration" in Washington with the speed, efficiency and competence of City Hall's efforts to manage the local recovery after Hurricane Katrina.

O'Dell, who consults with dozens of federal, state and local agencies and troubleshoots regulatory logjams, said Mayor Ray Nagin's recovery director, Ed Blakely, often does not return his calls and seems to be operating under the premise -- erroneous, O'Dell thinks -- that a new presidential administration next year "will reload the cannon and start shooting money down here."

O'Dell's critique, developed over several interviews, came as The Times-Picayune accompanied him on an all-day New Orleans visit Thursday. The coordinator visits the area at least every other week to discuss a wide range of recovery issues with regional officials, his aides said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; louisiana; neworleans
And then, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is given this leadership award a few nights ago for his post-Katrina rebuilding work. Go figure.
1 posted on 08/25/2008 8:37:44 AM PDT by rrstar96
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: lsucat; Roux; Pikachu_Dad; WFTR; chemicalman; abb; Liberty911; CajunConservative; LSUfan; ...

Pelican State ping


2 posted on 08/25/2008 8:38:39 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rrstar96

Why does anyone think things can be better after Katrina? This suggests that they knew nothing of New Orleans before Katrina.


3 posted on 08/25/2008 8:40:14 AM PDT by lormand ("If I were Putin, I would have done the same" - "Conservative" talk show host Michael Savage)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rrstar96

Ray Nagin is the person who was responsible for the fiasco that was Katrina response, and not the Federal government. Now the truth is coming out.


4 posted on 08/25/2008 8:42:36 AM PDT by Ben Reyes (If it's not sex scandal, it's incompetence - the problem with Democrats)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rrstar96
Blakely appears to expect a "tectonic" shift in the political landscape that will bring more recovery dollars to the state after November's presidential election.

I think $126 billion, or about $525,000 for every man, woman, and child in pre-Katrina New Orleans, is probably enough of my tax dollars spent in a place where people live 8' below sea level and don't bother to insure their property. On top of that, you have a mayor running the recovery program who can't find his ass with his own hand. Finally, the people reelected that idiot after Katrina. It's time to pull the federal plug and let NO waste its own money, not mine.

5 posted on 08/25/2008 8:59:38 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rrstar96

Other than still paying for “displaced” Katrina refugees to live in hotels and get credits for Rtestrants, I’d like to see an audit of where the billions we’ve all been clipped for New Orleans so far.
If this isn’t the most pathetic corrupt place in the U.S. I can not think of what would be.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 9:11:34 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Joe Boucher
If this isn’t the most pathetic corrupt place in the U.S. I can not think of what would be.

You have to wonder what Thomas Jefferson was thinking when he bought Louisiana from the French.

:^D

7 posted on 08/25/2008 9:28:12 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: rrstar96

Do they not understand how long it take to setup shell Org’s and such to loot the federal $$$. Come on.


8 posted on 08/25/2008 10:17:56 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: econjack
"I think $126 billion, or about $525,000 for every man, woman, and child in pre-Katrina New Orleans, is probably enough of my tax dollars spent in a place where people live 8' below sea level and don't bother to insure their property"

The $126 billion that you allude to was for all the gulf coast states that were impacted by hurricanes Katrina and Rita, not just for Louisiana or New Orleans. Also please show me where you get the idea that the majority of the people in New Orleans were not insured. As far as sea level goes, about half of the city is at or above sea level.

http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007/04/study_bust_myth_that_new_orlea.html

9 posted on 08/25/2008 12:02:29 PM PDT by Mila
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Mila
The $126 billion that you allude to was for all the gulf coast states that were impacted by hurricanes Katrina and Rita, not just for Louisiana or New Orleans. Also please show me where you get the idea that the majority of the people in New Orleans were not insured. As far as sea level goes, about half of the city is at or above sea level.

Ok, so half the city is above sea level. What percentage of it that's below sea level didn't bother to insure their homes "because it's too expensive"? How much of the $126 billion has gone to NO and its environs? If the NO administration is so great, why does a good part of the city still look like the DMZ after almost three years? Finally, I really don't care what the answers are because I still think far too much money was poured into a city that is so corrupt that it can't even track the $57 million it got from the Army Corp of Engineers prior to Katrina for levy work. Nagin's 18 cronies were awarded contracts to do the work, but no one seems to know why no work was done but the money's been spent. Nagin, Jefferson, and a good number of the other politicians in LA are among the most corrupt in the country and I fail to see why any more of my tax dollars should end up in their freezers. If you want to continue to elect such bozos, go right ahead, but don't expect any more money from me.

10 posted on 08/25/2008 12:32:38 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: econjack
"What percentage of it that's below sea level didn't bother to insure their homes "because it's too expensive"?"

I would have no way of knowing that percentage and my guess would be that you have no way of knowing it either. All I know is what I read and from what I read New Orleans has acquitted itself rather well when it comes to buying flood insurance.

Louisiana Residents Buy Flood Insurance While Many Others Don’t (From The National Association of Professional Insurance Agents)

"Shortly after Hurricane Katrina, some lawmakers criticized residents of New Orleans, one of the most vulnerable cities in America, for failing to buy federal flood insurance and then coming hat in hand and asking to be bailed out with federal money. Now, statistics prove that was not an accurate characterization.

Aides to Donald Powell, the Bush administration's liaison to the disaster zone, have determined that is Louisiana was a more enthusiastic participant in the National Flood Insurance Program than any other state in the nation. Two out of three New Orleanians carried flood insurance -- 67 percent -- compared with a national rate of about five percent."

http://www.pianet.com/IssuesOfFocus/HotIssues/flood/3-21-06-11.htm

"I still think far too much money was poured into a city that is so corrupt that it can't even track the $57 million it got from the Army Corp of Engineers prior to Katrina for levy work."

Do you think that the ACOE would continue to hand over that kind of money and not ask for an accounting of the work being done? To my knowledge no one in the city has ever been indicted for levee fraud. The ACOE designed and built the levees. Before a Senate committee they admitted to design failures that led to the flooding of the city

Corps Chief Admits To 'Design Failure'

Thursday, April 06, 2006

By Bill Walsh

Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON -- In the closest thing yet to a mea culpa, the commander of the Army Corps of Engineers acknowledged Wednesday that a "design failure" led to the breach of the 17th Street Canal levee that flooded much of the city during Hurricane Katrina.

Lt. Gen. Carl Strock told a Senate committee that the corps neglected to consider the possibility that floodwalls atop the 17th Street Canal levee would lurch away from their footings under significant water pressure and eat away at the earthen barriers below.

"We did not account for that occurring," Strock said after the Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing. "It could be called a design failure."

A botched design has long been suspected by independent forensic engineers probing the levee failures. A panel of engineering experts confirmed it last month in a report saying the "I-wall" design could not withstand the force of the rising water in the canal and triggered the breach.

But until Wednesday the corps, which designed and oversaw construction of the levees, had not explicitly taken responsibility for the mistake.

"We have now concluded we had problems with the design of the structure," Strock told members of the subcommittee that finances corps operations. "We had hoped that wasn't the case, but we recognize it is the reality."

http://www.nola.com/frontpage/t-p/index.ssf?/base/news-5/1144306231230500.xml

Nagin's 18 cronies were awarded contracts to do the work, but no one seems to know why no work was done but the money's been spent.

I guess the ACOE just felt like falling on their sword to protect "Nagin's 18 cronies". I'm no fan of Ray Nagin, but I'd be interested in seeing any articles you have that back up this accusation as I have never heard that particular urban legend.

11 posted on 08/25/2008 2:01:49 PM PDT by Mila
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: econjack

10 - 4 on that one.


12 posted on 08/25/2008 2:03:52 PM PDT by palomonte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Mila
You're right, I don't know who had flood insurance and who didn't. However, clearly a lot of people who owned property in the 9th Ward did not. As to the statement:

Two out of three New Orleanians carried flood insurance -- 67 percent -- compared with a national rate of about five percent."

My guess is that 95 percent of us don't live below sea level. I don't have flood insurance because there's never been a flood here. I'm probably not insured against an asteroid hitting my house, either. Comparing NO flood insurance rates to the rest of the country is just plain silly.

As to the 18 of Nagin's friends, that story was covered in the TP as I recall, so you should be able to find it there. Also, the ACOE has not let Nagin's administration handle its repair work distributions on the levies since Katrina. In fact, I have not seen any further indirect disbursements made by the ACOE through the Nagin administration since Katrina.

I stand by my earlier statement: You've had billions of federal dollars and hundreds of millions of private donations pumped into that city and there is damn little to show for it. I think you guys need to bootstrap yourself from here on, and I sure don't want any more federal dollars sunk into that pit of corruption.

13 posted on 08/25/2008 2:22:52 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: econjack
"My guess is that 95 percent of us don't live below sea level. I don't have flood insurance because there's never been a flood here. I'm probably not insured against an asteroid hitting my house, either. Comparing NO flood insurance rates to the rest of the country is just plain silly."

Not so silly when you consider that between 1901 and 2000 there were 60 floods in the US and they were all over the country. Not living below sea level is no guarantee of never being flooded. Just ask the people of the Midwest who were flooded out in June of this year. Low risk doesn't mean no risk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_the_United_States:_1901-2000

14 posted on 08/25/2008 3:35:44 PM PDT by Mila
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Mila
OK, less than one flood per year all over the country. My guess is that most of those occurred in what insurance companies call a "100 year flood plain". Flood insurance in those areas reflects the probability of floods. Clearly, some places will never have a flood while others have a higher probability. The fact that 67% in NO had flood insurance doesn't speak to those who did buy the insurance, it really speaks to the other 33 percent who didn't buy insurance. If those homes had mortgages on them, my guess is that they would have been required to have flood insurance.

If you look at the people in the Midwest who were flooded out, they are the same people who are always flooded out each time the Mississippi overflows its banks. The reason you don't hear them screaming like NO is because they have flood insurance...they live in a flood plain. Indeed, many mortgage companies require flood insurance when you live in a flood plain. You're killing your own case here, Bucko.

15 posted on 08/25/2008 4:46:18 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Ben Reyes

Ray Nagin is the person who was responsible for the fiasco that was Katrina response, and not the Federal government. Now the truth is coming out.

We knew that all the time. We were here! But, the press wouldn’t hear of it - it was all Bush’s fault. Blanco and Nogin - what a pair.


16 posted on 08/26/2008 6:39:17 AM PDT by Bitsy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson