Posted on 08/24/2008 11:34:57 AM PDT by AuntB
IRVING, Texas -- Some members of the Hispanic community are calling for a boycott of Frank Parra dealerships after a broken car deal led to an undocumented immigrant's arrest.
Frank Parra Dodge insists it is the victim of an immigration smear campaign brought on by community activist Carlos Quintanilla. Quintanilla is calling for a boycott after the sales staff at the dealership had customer Oscar Urbina arrested.
Urbina admitted to being in the country illegally and using a fake Social Security number to buy a truck when the finance company flagged the deal.
"That's when we said, 'Just give us our truck and leave the store,'" Joe Fernandez of Frank Parra Dodge said.
Instead, the dealership's salesmen said Urbina locked himself inside the truck, and that is when they called police.
"The last thing we want is to have a customer arrested. We just wanted our truck back," Fernandez said.
However, Urbina said the dealership actually offered to find a new finance company that would accept the fake Social Security number if he agreed to pay a higher percentage rate and put more money down.
"It's saying, 'If you don't agree with us, we will call the police and report you,'" Quintanilla said.
The Parra dealership denies that that offer took place.
Urbina said he was upset because he has purchased numerous cars at the dealership before and there was never a problem.
However, when asked if that fact makes it appropriate for him to use a fake Social Security number, Urbina seemed to be at a loss for words.
"However, when asked if that fact makes it appropriate for him to use a fake Social Security number, Urbina seemed to be at a loss for words. "
Sheesh.
I thought they only bought Chevy .
They deserve to go bankrupt.
“Why a company would ever have lent money to someone not legally in the country and, basically, untraceable, is beyond me.
They deserve to go bankrupt. “
Those are the same outfits that the government is bailing out with our tax dollars. Yes, in an actual free market system, they would go broke.
If the truck hadn't been on the lot at the time it would have just been repoed later.
As for the crimmigrant — absolutely deport him!
I am so freaking sick and tired of the d@mn MSM massaging the language in these emotion-based BS articles.
A CRIMINAL IS A CRIMINAL IS A CRIMINAL.
They broke federal law the instant they broke into our Republic, and they should be deported back to their homelands. The Japanese government deports their illegal aliens, why can't our government do the same????
Sheesh!!!!!!!!
So you’re taking the word of the illegal over the word of the dealer? Could you be bothered to read the next line, perhaps?
“The Parra dealership denies that that offer took place.”
liberals
Knowing the way car dealerships work, yes.
More doublespeak.
“Calling an illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a rapist an undocumented boyfriend.”
I saw that. Did you notice the dealership disputed that?
If they had offered, why didn’t the alien take them up on it?
But then NOTHING seems good enough for them, does it?
I find it most interesting that illegal citizens (Thanks to Motor/Voter most can vote) that file exempt on income taxes and FICA have plenty of money to by new cars while most legals are taxed so hard that a new car is no more than a pipe-dream for them.
Yes, he says he had bought other trucks there earlier, no problemo. But this time the lending company refused.
The obvious explanation is that lending companies carelessly made numerous bad loans, got into serious trouble, and now are much more careful not to make dubious loans.
This guy was a real jerk to lock himself in the truck. If he had just quietly left he would have been OK.
“This guy was a real jerk to lock himself in the truck. If he had just quietly left he would have been OK.”
But, but....they’re ALL hiding in the shadows, don’t ya know?
That's because they changed the laws. SS numbers are now on a federal database to make sure they are ligit
No financing, no vehicle, no problem
Here in Florida, it actually caused many illegals to LEAVE..............................to Canada and back to their turd world countries
I'll take that with a huge grain of salt.
It’s like the old Johnny Carson “Tea Time Movie” routine:
Got no job, we don’t care.
Got no credit, we don’t care.
You’re illegal, we don’t care.
You don’t expect to pay us, THAT’S when we care!
Urbina said the dealership actually offered to find a new finance company that would accept the fake Social Security number
They are part of the problem! They are okay with this ILLEGAL using someone else's SS number which will forever ruin that person's life.
Fully prepared for my flaming.....
As someone who works in the subprime auto finance business, I know why a finance company would do this. As illegals are all in the subprime category, a finance company would commit suicide by not financing the best paying demographic group in this sector. They would have to turn a blind eye while the competition bought all that paper and they only financed people who have proven themselves to never pay. It is a competitive business, HSBC and UACC just closed down their subprime auto finance divisions this month, while others have tightened up considerably.
It is the job of our “leadership” to secure our borders and get these people out of here or properly papered up. Barring that, don’t blame the banks for loaning money. Had a bank not picked it up, he would have obtained financing through a buy here pay here dealer, they all know that illegals pay better than whites or blacks any day of the week.
It sounds like he was using a SS number from a dead person, one with good credit. When the scam was revealed, he had to put more down and go with a higher interest rate, commensurate with his actual credit experience. I don’t condone illegals being here, but if you are going to survive in this business you have to finance evryone that fits your criteria.
The dealership denied that. Their word against the alien, you choose.
Carlos Quintanilla spent most of the day in jail after being arrested by Irving police on outstanding warrants after he had concluded a television interview.
Police said Mr. Quintanilla, leader of Dallas-based Accion America, had seven outstanding warrants – mostly traffic citations – from police in Dallas and Farmers Branch and the Dallas County sheriff's office.
$3,014 bail
Not ruining anyones life, they use dead peoples numbers, generally.
I have a friend that works with the cops. She’s seen a lot of these where the illegal ponys-up a fraudulent ssn, “buys” the car, never makes payments and then has it repossessed.
Then they do it all over again with another ssn.
But they are just here to work.
The employment info on the bureau would not match the customers verifiable employment info. That is why dead numbers work better. Looks like nobody entered the employment info. The SS number is often a moot point, many banks accept a Tax ID
LOL! Check this one out.
Police: Shoplifter stuffs octopus, shrimp down his pants
Aug. 15, 2008
A man was arrested on suspicion of shoplifting Thursday after Chandler police said he attempted to steal packages of octopus and shrimp by stuffing them down his pants.
Ricardo Arcos-Lopez grabbed the packages, slipped them in his shorts and was able to breach cashiers before the store manager caught him at the door, officers said.
When police arrived, they said the name Lopez gave them was bogus. When he revealed his real name, police said they discovered he was wanted on a misdemeanor warrant and two felony warrants.
Officers said the man had a history of using false identities. Police said they found a fake mustache and beard at the time of his arrest.
Police said Lopez is an illegal immigrant who had been deported once before.
http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=935676
A fellow member of the League of United Latin American Citizens told Quintanilla, who became a member of one of the group's local chapters last year, to stand down, saying he shouldn't be representing the organization. "Get out of my face," Quintanilla says he replied. "I don't need to listen to you."
Quintanilla—activist and businessman, father and former gang member—has often been at the center of conflict, from the time he says he was suspended from school at age 15, to his conviction on federal racketeering charges in the early '90s, to a collection of lawsuits in Dallas County.
With the average of $1,500 in "Earned" income tax credit and the $1,200 stimulus checks many of them are walking off with $2,700. Cash.
Here in Dallas you should have seen them on the "tax free" weekend buying school clothes for all their illegal kids born in mexico and anchor babies. The mall in Plano was swamped. I didn't hear English for 20 - 30 minutes at a time in Dillard’s or JC Penney. Just loud, yelling, out of control illegals and their kids fighting over clothes that were on sale.
Carlos Quintanilla.......a real sweetheart, that one!
I don't think they really care if they are dead or alive as long as they get them. How do you know these people are dead generally?
Where did you get that idea? They buy false documents and they don't have a clue if it belongs to a dead person or not. Sometimes the number hasn't even been issued yet. I know, I ran credit reports/social security number searches on plenty of Hispanics, Russians, Chinese, etc. that turned out to have false documents.
He's not "untraceable". He's got your Social Security number and the Gubbmint knows where you live. ;-)
No kidding!
Hispanic activist Carlos Quintanilla was arrested in Irving on an accusation of driving with an invalid license and other charges Thursday, the same day he was organizing an immigration rally.
Mr. Quintanilla said Accion America was holding its latest rally to urge police to not take people into custody for minor traffic violations just because they don’t have a state-issued identification card or driver’s license.”*
The manager said”Is that an octopus in your pants or are you just glad to see me?”.
lol...yep!
see post 27. It is easier to get away with a dead person’s info. I don’t advocate it, but that is what happens.
Carlos Quintanilla-—wonder if he’s related to Carl Quintanilla——financial reporter for CNBC.
You’re just as rotten as the church that gives them sanctuary!
A finance company, making deals with people who are untraceable and unaccountable, over time, will go under. You say such businesses have to do that or they will go under. I say such businesses should never do that or they destine themselves a losing proposition to prudent investors.
A prudent, sub-prime firm, making half or less the profit will survive, while garrulous firms will go under.
And, may I suggest, my perspective is what has proven out.
By the way, I'd like to see the official numbers on the timeliness of loan payments based on race in this country, since you say “illegals pay better than whites or blacks any day of the week.”
That's like a drug dealer saying that to survive in the business you have to sell heroin to kids.
You people are disgusting.
Not true. I had a friend who’s social security number was being used by an illegal. He was in IRS hell for about three years.
That's basically what bank of America did when they had their credit cards for illegals campaign. Everyone said "What does it matter, they pay up front for the card?" Well it helped them get HOUSES here and now they are in Mexico and the keys are thrown back at the bankers. If you read the Houston papers every now and then you will see a house busted with 60 some odd people living there. They were bought with nothing down and a gardeners job for a $200k house. Then the coyotes ran their businesses through them. What a mess. You can bet they are getting gubmint help to keep their houses now.
Course if Dell told me I would have paid a personal visit with my .45 so they probably saved me some jail time. Nobody cares!
Someday we can all just get a chip under our skin to stop all this foolishness. That should do it.
the dealership actually offered to find a new finance company that would accept the fake Social Security number if he agreed to pay a higher percentage rate and put more money down.
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Jeez, I don’t have a bit of sympathy for the buyer, the seller or the finance company who would even consider this deal. To hell with all of them.
Maybe “The Great ObamaNation” (blessed be his name) is right and we need to teach our kids Mexicain (it’s very different from Spanish).
“Jeez, I don’t have a bit of sympathy for the buyer, the seller or the finance company who would even consider this deal. To hell with all of them.”
I agree, though later in the article the dealer denies this.
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