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Can Biden provide the 'Scranton' effect?
The Pittsburgh TRIBUNE-REVIEW ^ | August 23, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 08/23/2008 7:55:22 PM PDT by Salena Zito

DENVER: When most people think of Joe Biden, they think Senate longevity, confidence, a liberal with a free-wheeling impulse to give you his never-to-be-humble opinion.

What they don't think of is a man who could have a great impact in Pennsylvania. The question becomes: Can he make his impact as broad as Hillary Clinton -- another Scranton native -- did in the Pennsylvania primaries?

Hillary glowed in Pennsylvania. She made Pennsylvania her second home and it stuck with voters. John Kerry, married to the Heinz ketchup heiress Teresa, did the same thing in his runup to the 2004 election. He made western Pennsylvania his second home, including the announcement of John Edwards as his running mate.

Both did well cultivating votes as a home-towner.

Larry Ceisler, a Philadelphia political analyst, says the Biden appeal is even stronger in the eastern half of the state -- home of the bulk of the votes cast in a statewide election.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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1 posted on 08/23/2008 7:55:23 PM PDT by Salena Zito
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To: Salena Zito

When I think of Joe Biden, I think of:

Neil Kinnock

Hair plugs

Bloviator

Critical of Obama’s inexperience

Fodder for a Republican Presidential landslide in November.

That’s about it.


2 posted on 08/23/2008 7:59:04 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: CASchack

Agree — but you left out “lightweight”


3 posted on 08/23/2008 8:03:11 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: CASchack

Agree — but you left out “lightweight”


4 posted on 08/23/2008 8:03:20 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Salena Zito

Fire up the bong! Woo hoo! It’s saturday nite in Pittsburgh! :-)

But seriously: I think you’re guessing wrong.

>> Northeastern Pennsylvania still considers him one of their own

Northeastern PA would go big for Obama no matter who he picked for VP, right?

We shall see.

Tom Ridge was, and is, a really bad choice for McCain’s VP. That much doesn’t change.


5 posted on 08/23/2008 8:03:26 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Salena Zito

WOW.

Joe Biden.

This just show how truly inept this Obama is.

What an Idiot.

(Good for us)

Heheheheheheheh


6 posted on 08/23/2008 8:04:41 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: Salena Zito

Joe Biden is John Edwards with more inside-the-beltway experience, but without the Southern accent.


7 posted on 08/23/2008 8:04:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: Salena Zito

Call me cynical, but the questionable polling results of Philadelphia will most likely carry the state like always, unless McCain can carry almost all of the rest of the PA.


8 posted on 08/23/2008 8:06:35 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The last time that an all-Yankee ticket won the White House was...?


9 posted on 08/23/2008 8:07:48 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: CASchack

When I think of Biden, I just want to smack the man on the back of his head. I tried to listen to him on a Sunday talk show, and had to turn it off. Never tried again.


10 posted on 08/23/2008 8:08:14 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Salena Zito; Admin Moderator
Is that anything like the scrotum effect when you jump into freezing water over your head and your.... legacy to history.... pops back inside where it is warm?

You know, one of those creepy music interludes that lets you know the bad guys are in the basement, waiting?

Yeah, the Dim's I've talked too are trying to coax their package back out.....

Admin moderator, if this is over the top, please delete, but there's enough material here to make Lenny Bruce talk like.... well.... Lenny Bruce.

Bill Cosby wouldn't have passed it up.

/johnny

11 posted on 08/23/2008 8:08:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Froggie

“Agree — but you left out “lightweight””

Also left “gasbag” off the list, but I guess bloviator is close enough.


12 posted on 08/23/2008 8:11:38 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: huldah1776

>> When I think of Biden, I just want to smack the man on the back of his head.

I wonder if the hair plugs would pop out if you did that?


13 posted on 08/23/2008 8:15:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: MurryMom
Can Biden provide the 'Scranton' effect?

Doesn't that involve something deemed illegal in Biden's better days?

Good thing enough laws have been passed since then to cover everything else - no?

14 posted on 08/23/2008 8:24:05 PM PDT by Libloather (August is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I wonder if the hair plugs would pop out if you did that?

Not until after the payment period was completed.

/johnny

15 posted on 08/23/2008 8:26:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: CASchack

But in their infinite wisdom, the Obama campaign is turning Joe Biden into a blue collar working stiff - just what Obama needs to get those bitter, gun-toting, church-going folks. The problem with this strategy is that Joe Biden isn’t anything of the sort.


16 posted on 08/23/2008 8:26:32 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: CASchack

Left out “baby killer supporter”


17 posted on 08/23/2008 8:30:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JRandomFreeper

>> Not until after the payment period was completed.

LOL!

By the way I caught the “scrotum” simile too. In fact, when I first glanced at the headline I read “scrotum” not “Scranton”. I started a reply in the same vein as yours. I want you to know I am proud of my willpower — I let it go and went with the bong rip instead.

Anyway, i knew /some/ sick freeper mind* would field that one, probably more skillfully than I would have. And you did!

* I say that with reverent respect


18 posted on 08/23/2008 8:38:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Salena Zito

I thought this was going to have something to do with Gov. Scranton, the Eastern Establishment’s last-minute candidate in 1964 trying to stop Barry Goldwater from getting the Republican nomination.


19 posted on 08/23/2008 8:41:33 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Nervous Tick
You signed up in 2004 just to call me a sick freeper mind?

I can live with that. ;)

There's just so much stuff available to make jokes about that they write themselves, these days.

And rest assured, some freeper will, until we get banned.

/johnny

20 posted on 08/23/2008 8:45:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John Edwards would be a better VP pick than Joe Biden.


21 posted on 08/23/2008 9:05:57 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Salena Zito

Hillary Clinton is not a Scranton native. She was born and raised in Illinois. She visited her grandparents in Scranton, and tried to emphasize her extended family ties to the state, but she herself is not a native of PA.

Just want to correct this factual error.


22 posted on 08/23/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Salena Zito
When most people think of Joe Biden, they think Senate longevity, confidence, a liberal with a free-wheeling impulse to give you his never-to-be-humble opinion.

Weird. All I can think of is plagiarism and hair plugs.
23 posted on 08/23/2008 9:45:51 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (DRILL HERE. DRILL NOW. PAY LESS!)
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To: Froggie

And “Articulate and Clean” and “7-11’s”


24 posted on 08/23/2008 9:54:57 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Salena Zito

Hell I thought everybody in PA was either being arrested on COPS or living on a nice little Amish farm somewhere.


25 posted on 08/23/2008 10:03:27 PM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: Salena Zito

Biden can’t be some Scranton. He actually has teeth in his mouth and is sober most of the time. Definitely not a Scranton native.


26 posted on 08/23/2008 10:06:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (Happiness is a Union Thug Getting Clubbed on the Head)
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To: CASchack

All true.
Don’t forget the huge mistake obama made giving billory so much face time next week in denver.
Those two decisions show what a feckless leader he would be(apologies to jimmahc.)


27 posted on 08/23/2008 10:07:23 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Salena Zito

one more reason McCain ought to go with John Kasich from Ohio,, pro life, top notch on the economy and an all around well respected conservative republican with a young family

the guy would tear up Biden on the stump and the debates

he has the life story too of tragedies and triumph


28 posted on 08/23/2008 10:12:55 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Salena Zito
Fast Eddie Rendel will (in the words of the Rev. Jackson) 'cut his n _ ts off' for the Hilldebeast

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29 posted on 08/23/2008 10:27:58 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Shadow44

A lot of dead people vote in PA. Should be a call for Federal election observers.


30 posted on 08/23/2008 10:35:59 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Salena Zito

The scraggly effect maybe.


31 posted on 08/23/2008 10:36:09 PM PDT by red state girl (never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never)
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To: JRandomFreeper

ROTFLOL!


32 posted on 08/23/2008 10:37:27 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Salena Zito

The big question may be, can jumpin’ Joe Biden corner the Mullet/hair for men vote in PA and elsewhere.


33 posted on 08/24/2008 3:34:40 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: JRandomFreeper
Is that anything like the scrotum effect when you jump into freezing water over your head and your.... legacy to history.... pops back inside where it is warm?

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the title said scrotum. Had to go back and read a second time to be sure.

34 posted on 08/24/2008 5:54:17 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: Salena Zito
About Salena Zito Salena Zito is political reporter and editorial page columnist for the Tribune-Review. Having spent her previous life working as a campaign staffer at one time or another for both parties, she brings a unique perspective to the in and outs of the political process.

If you are going to post your blog articles, it would only be fair to FReepers for you to disclose what campaigns you have worked on or ARE being paid by, ESPECIALLY if you have worked for someone now in contention for VP.

About Salina Zito

Awaiting your reply.

35 posted on 08/24/2008 6:36:50 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (1992...how many folks had heard of Bill Clinton? John McCain, Eric Cantor for your VP pick!)
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To: Salena Zito

It's Biden: So much for 'Hope and Change'

Double the Arrogance -- Double the Fun! It's Obama-BinBiden 2008

The rat's dream team of hate America and capitalism, the Islamofascist Narcissistic Liar and an Old White Honky Narcissistic Plagiarist/Liar $inator, the #1 and #3 Liberal voters in the $inate, or Karl Rove strikes again:


36 posted on 08/24/2008 7:37:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Snowbami, the Oreo Bozo, wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Salena Zito

Snowedbami introduces Biden as the next president of the United States:
http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/obama-introduces-joe-biden-next-president-united-states-video-82308

More Great Utube stuff re the reality of the two losers.

During the Debate Forum, Senator Joe Biden says that he knows that Senator Barack Obama took an AIDS test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZzWYCxjdnY

Beyond the speeches, how much do you really know about Snowbami?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY

He Is The One - Barack Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbgTnPm_4dY&feature=iv

Just three hours after the Obama campaign sent out its text announcement, the McCain campaign rolled out its first ad this morning, using Senator Joe Biden’s own words during the primary season about Senator Barack Obama.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/mccain-rolls-out-new-ad-with-bidens-words/

Obama Picks Joe Biden for VP in secret meeting in a DC bar!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIXSqpFNf50

Joe Biden: The Next President is “Barack AMERICA!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTjlAd-GXM


37 posted on 08/24/2008 7:37:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Snowbami, the Oreo Bozo, wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Salena Zito

I think PA was gonna go for Obama anyway. Just a guess.


38 posted on 08/24/2008 8:21:02 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Salena Zito; Bender2; Lil'freeper
Except for both of them being white, I can see that Biden would provide the Scranton effect for the dimmicrats...

But which one is which?

39 posted on 08/24/2008 8:33:31 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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