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Electric dreams (Tesla)
www.thesun.co.uk ^ | 08/21/2008 | By KEN GIBSON

Posted on 08/22/2008 8:33:15 AM PDT by Red Badger

I’VE just driven the electric dream green machine the world’s been waiting for.

Forget about milk floats and little city cars, the Tesla is a sexy two-seat roadster that makes no emissions and has the performance of a supercar.

The Tesla is so sexy Hollywood heart-throb George Clooney will be one of the first to take delivery of one.

That is likely to be the only thing George and I ever have in common as I recently had one delivered — unfortunately, only for a day.

Sadly, the Tesla will set you back more than £78,000 for the privilege of being an electric motoring pioneer, which puts it out of the reach of mere mortals.

Think of the Tesla as America’s green answer to a Porsche 911 and you’ll start to get the picture of this amazing car.

If the styling looks familiar, you’ll be right.

It is a re-bodied Lotus Elise that has been heavily engineered to take lithium-ion batteries and a new automatic drive train.

I predict it will become the must-have supercar for the world’s trend-setting elite wanting to show off their green credentials.

Having spent a day at the wheel of the Tesla in London I can tell you it’s the ultimate fun car for nipping in and out of city traffic.

The Tesla’s looks turn heads and when people realise it’s silent you can see them asking, “What’s that?”

The silence is bizarre at first — only a little clicking noise when you turn the “ignition” key lets you know it has started.

But touch the accelerator and the Tesla’s performance is electrifying.

Nought to 62mph takes four seconds — damn quick wherever the power comes from — and the 124mph top speed is more than enough to cost you your licence.

It’s also the easiest supercar in the world to drive, with just one forward gear.

All you do is push the lever into drive and you’re off as smooth as silk.

The Tesla is a hoot to drive. It corners as if it’s on rails and the steering is responsive and precise, if not as raw as a standard Elise.

I wish I could say it was as easy to get in and out of, you need to be a contortionist. But I bet Clooney does it with style.

It will also improve your arm muscles because the steering is not power-assisted so parking is a pain.

Where the Tesla excels is the range it can travel. Most electric cars have a maximum of around 50 miles on a full charge, but the Tesla will do 220, the equivalent of 160mpg, thanks to its state-of-the-art batteries and a 248bhp motor.

You’ll need a 70amp connection for a “fast” recharge that will still take around four hours. Use a standard plug and it will take 16 hours.

Tesla bosses are confident battery technology is progressing so fast that recharge times will fall.

They are also confident that with government support — Gordon Brown has already pledged the UK’s backing — that recharging posts will become a feature on streets in every major city in the UK within a few years.

British buyers will get a high-spec Special Edition with leather seats, carbon fibre trim, adjustable suspension, customised alloy wheels and a nice music system.

These things don’t get close to justifying a price tag of nearly £80,000 but that’s the price you pay for the electric revolution.

At least you won’t be fleeced for a congestion charge because electric cars are exempt, which is why I couldn’t help but smile as I pulled up to London’s C-charge road markings.

Tesla sales boss Darryl Siry believes there will be more than enough rich motoring enthusiasts who want to drive the latest green technology.

He says: “This is the first electric car that combines great design, great performance and no C02 emissions. It’s the shape of things to come and a car that will have historical significance.

“It will signal a real change over the next decade to the electrification of the motor car.”

Siry expects the UK and Germany to be the destination of most of the 250 Teslas headed to Europe in the first year of production, which guarantees exclusivity.

The Californian firm are already close to finishing a four-door electric family car that will also come to Europe.

I was given a sneak preview of pictures of the car and it looks a bit like an Aston Martin and with prices expected to start at around £32,250 at today’s exchange rates.

It could make an even bigger impact than the Tesla when it goes on sale late in 2010.

And with politicians jumping on the electric bandwagon, you get the feeling motorists could be plugging in to electric in a big way in the very near future.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: auto; electriccar; tesla; transporation
Lots of pics at link....
1 posted on 08/22/2008 8:33:16 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

It is really sweet! How much would gas have to go up to make it pay for itself?
Over $100k... Come on.


2 posted on 08/22/2008 8:42:00 AM PDT by Holicheese (Rasdower, Zap Rasdower!)
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To: Red Badger

I always think there is some old guy in a garage somewhere tinkering away at this stuff.


3 posted on 08/22/2008 8:42:25 AM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: Red Badger

4 posted on 08/22/2008 8:42:30 AM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: Red Badger

Little Suzi’s on the up


5 posted on 08/22/2008 8:42:41 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Red Badger

On my word, I love it, it’s beautiful. This is the coolest thing, ever! Great job, Tesla!! Keep it up. Get us off of oil!!!!


6 posted on 08/22/2008 8:42:53 AM PDT by Joyell
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To: Red Badger

Now that is a car I would drive. Unfortunately it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of mine, and most peoples price range. ;(


7 posted on 08/22/2008 8:44:52 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

The cost should come down with “mass production” to about half of that.................


8 posted on 08/22/2008 8:46:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Red Badger
I wish I could say it was as easy to get in and out of, you need to be a contortionist. But I bet Clooney does it with style.

The only new thing I learned from this story is that Ken Gibson has a crush on George Clooney.

9 posted on 08/22/2008 8:47:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Red Badger

I want one. It’s a beautiful car. Too bad it would take 500 years of gas savings to cover the initial cost.


10 posted on 08/22/2008 8:50:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (If Obama can't stand up to Hillary, he can't stand up to North Korea. Iran. Or anyone.)
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To: Red Badger

Ok, this guy is enthusiastic to say the least. He left out a few things. First, he says this car gives out no emissions. Not true, it takes 4 hours at a 70 amp “fast” charge to “fill it up” so to speak. That means somewhere this electricity had to be produced. Also, can you just see even half of Americans buying a car that needed to charge up over night just to get to work and back. Wow, what a drain on our electrical generators. We need to build nukes and build them fast for this kind of technology to ever get off the ground. We need to drill here and drill now, we need oil and nukes first and electric cars later.


11 posted on 08/22/2008 8:50:15 AM PDT by calex59
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To: GOPJ
Too bad it would take 500 years of gas savings to cover the initial cost.

Not if Obama get elected..............can you say $10 gallon gas?..........

12 posted on 08/22/2008 8:52:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Red Badger
To test-drive it costs $5000.
I'd rather buy at Lotus and save 60,000
13 posted on 08/22/2008 8:53:00 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Red Badger
Nice car. Not a week after it was first released followed the first guy to crash his. People really need to learn how to drive cars like this before they go on the road, especially since these are very, very small cars that go very fast.

But if you can't afford one, the Tesla is basically just an electric version of this ~$45K car:


14 posted on 08/22/2008 8:58:26 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Red Badger

Good point. Or maybe even $20 gallon gas...


15 posted on 08/22/2008 9:02:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (If Obama can't stand up to Hillary, he can't stand up to North Korea. Iran. Or anyone.)
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To: calex59
You're right about drilling & building nuclear power plants. However, there's plenty of excess off-peak capacity in the existing grid to charge a few million electric cars. The additional demand (and revenue!) should provide the necessary incentive for the utilities to build more capacity.
16 posted on 08/22/2008 9:09:30 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Red Badger

Did they ever get the two speed tranny installed?


17 posted on 08/22/2008 9:09:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Clooney’s a very TINY man so should get in/out easily.


18 posted on 08/22/2008 9:15:20 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (ETHANOL SUCKS !)
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To: Yo-Yo
"Did they ever get the two speed tranny installed?"

Yes, but it takes a while to get ready when you want to go somewhere...


19 posted on 08/22/2008 9:15:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Red Badger

Sheep? /very obscure


20 posted on 08/22/2008 9:22:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Rest In Peace, Capt. Ed "Too Tall" Freeman (1928-2008))
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To: Red Badger
"You’ll need a 70amp connection for a “fast” recharge that will still take around four hours. Use a standard plug and it will take 16 hours."

"..makes no emissions.."

Now what do they plug it into again..?

21 posted on 08/22/2008 9:24:11 AM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: Joe 6-pack

22 posted on 08/22/2008 9:27:31 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: calex59
"Also, can you just see even half of Americans buying a car that needed to charge up over night just to get to work and back. Wow, what a drain on our electrical generator"

What do you do if their is a power outage in your neigborhood and you forgot to plug in the night before and you have an emergency??? This is just a souped up golf cart.
23 posted on 08/22/2008 9:29:23 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Holicheese

Your comment reminded me that I had considered downsizing my transportation a few months ago but have not because of the pay-back time frame. Swapping my paid-off 2002 TrailBlazer for a Honda Accord Hybrid (30 large) would move me from 18MPG to 30MPG. At $4.00 a gallon and 20,000 miles per year, I would break even around 376,000 miles or about 18 years. Needless to say both cars will be landfill before then.


24 posted on 08/22/2008 9:31:30 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: Red Badger

Great idea, but for quite a few years to come, it will be POWERED BY BURNING COAL.


25 posted on 08/22/2008 9:43:20 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: sheana
Chevy Volt coming 2010:


26 posted on 08/22/2008 9:56:09 AM PDT by naturalized
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To: naturalized

no thanks. 40 miles is not nearly enough for me.


27 posted on 08/22/2008 10:04:58 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

Turning your nose up at 150mpg?


28 posted on 08/22/2008 10:14:03 AM PDT by naturalized
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To: Red Badger

So “going green” can only be afforded by the elites. They want you to travel in sardine packed subway cars.


29 posted on 08/22/2008 10:25:15 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

If Tesla can produce these in mass quantities, the price will come down. If the car is a “hit” then others will copy it, and competition will bring the price even lower..............


30 posted on 08/22/2008 10:30:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: naturalized; sheana

Chevy Volt Gone in 2011.................


31 posted on 08/22/2008 10:32:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: sheana
"no thanks. 40 miles is not nearly enough for me."

Perfect for me: 90% of driving is one trip a day; Drive into town, doctor/shop/etc, drive home. No gas. 10+ miles to spare.

32 posted on 08/22/2008 10:43:30 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: calex59

I competely disagree with your posting.

One reason is you’re assuming a 100% efficient energy conversion for a gasoline powered engine which is definitely not the case.

FYI, the vast majority of energy in gasoline is wasted in IC engines. Gasoline powered engines only achieve around 20% efficiency while diesel reaches 30%. Most goes to heat and unburned fuel.

OTOH, electric vehicles achieve around 90% conversion efficiencies. Bearing these facts in mind, let’s re-visit your argument.

1 Gallon of Gas = 125,000 BTUs
Source: US Department of Energy

3,400 BTUs = 1 KWH
Source: US Department of Energy, Bonneville Power Mgt.

1 Gallon of Gas = 37 KWH x 20% conversion efficiency
(125,000 BTUs in a gallon of gas divided by 3,400 BTUs in 1 KWH x 20% conversion efficiency)

1 Gallon of Gas = 7.4 kWh

Cost/kWh = 4-5 cents (Vancouver, Canada hydroelectric utility charge)

1 Gallon of gas equivalent = 29.6 - 37 cents

Now, since electric motor in electric car @ 90% efficiency

29.6 to 37 cents/7.4 kWh x 10/9

1 gallon of gas equivalent = 32.9 - 41.1 cents

Consequently, an electric-powered vehicle of identical weight would spend 32.9-41.1 cents to travel the same distance it will take a gasoline-powered vehicle to travel on a gallon of gas.

So, if gasoline is CHEAPER than 32.9-41.1 cents a GALLON, then gasoline-powered vehicles are cheaper to drive on a strictly per fuel basis. However, the facts are nowhere near the claim charging them will be a “drain on our electric generators.”


33 posted on 08/22/2008 11:28:38 AM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson

To start with I never said a word about gasoline efficiency one way or another. I said we need more nuke power plants if we are to keep up with the load that would be imposed on our electrical generating capacity as it exists now. This is the truth and can’t be changed. We need to generate more if we are to use more. Secondly I said the only way out right now is to drill, drill here and drill now. In the meantime build nuke power plants, both for electricity and desalinization(we are going to need fresh water also). In the meantime when you charge a car using the electricity we generate today you are still causing emissions, indirectly. Now, what any of that has to do with your reply to me I haven’t a clue.


34 posted on 08/22/2008 11:54:39 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Fair enough - I misread your post.

Still, I was pointing out the amount of electric charge for an electric car only amounts to 7.4 kWh for a distance that one gallon of gas propels a gasoline-powered vehicle.

I agree with you we need more nuclear plants - at an ave generation of 12.4 billion kWh/year, it will only require 87 new plants to replace all the 146 billion gallons of gasoline Americans use every year, IF, all IE engines were replaced with advanced batteries.

Thanks for the correction.


35 posted on 08/22/2008 12:17:01 PM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Red Badger
Great looking vehicle.

If the prices comes down, eventually I might consider one.

I understand all are sold, and the waiting list for buyers is extensive.

36 posted on 08/22/2008 12:30:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Red Badger
78 000 British pounds = 144 822.6 U.S. dollars

What's really cool is that they are able to produce a car with these performance characteristics at all. Now they need to work on the price!

37 posted on 08/22/2008 1:13:00 PM PDT by cynwoody
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