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Does air conditioning make people vote Republican?
Salon.com ^ | August 21, 2008 | Edward McClelland

Posted on 08/21/2008 6:30:46 AM PDT by libstripper

Aug. 21, 2008 | When I moved into my apartment, in May, the first thing I did was tear out the air conditioners. I don't need air conditioning: My front window is 50 yards from Lake Michigan, and, as any Chicago weatherperson will tell you, "It's cooler by the lake." I can't afford it, either: Three window units can add serious dollars to one's monthly electric bill. But those aren't the real reasons I got rid of the A/C.

Air conditioning offends my sense of Northern pride. They have a saying in Maine: "If you can't stand the winters, you don't deserve the summers." But the air conditioner allows Arizonans to enjoy a cool, lakelike breeze in the comfort of their living rooms, without ever having to buy snow tires. As one who has seen firsthand how the Sun Belt created a poor Yankee cousin called the Rust Belt, I blame the air conditioner for the decay of Detroit, Cleveland and Buffalo, N.Y. I blame it for the decline of the American labor movement. And I blame it for the election of George W. Bush, as well as the fact that we haven't elected a Yankee president in nearly 50 years. Honestly, I don't want something like that in my house. Especially if I have to pay for it.

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He's certainly right about AC making the rise of the modern South possible. The decline of the Rust Belt, however, was clearly caused by the union thugs and socialists he so loves.
1 posted on 08/21/2008 6:30:46 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Just as I suspected. All liberals are luddites.............


2 posted on 08/21/2008 6:34:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: libstripper

“...we haven’t elected a Yankee president in nearly 50 years. Honestly, I don’t want something like that in my house. Especially if I have to pay for it.”

Froma grammatical standpoint, I can’t determine whether it is air conditioners or Yankee Presidents which he does not want in his house. Can someone help me out here?

;^)


3 posted on 08/21/2008 6:36:26 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: libstripper
Reminds of a liberal family I know that glorify is self-deprivation. Kept their house barely above freezing in the winter, ate the crappy “natural” peanut butter which settles out with oil on top, and took 2000 mile family trips in their VW bus making sure to avoid the interstate highway system.

It was all done for the bragging rights of being purer than others. I can just see them now, sitting in a steaming hot house with sweat pouring down their faces, instructing their children that air conditioning is for Republicans.

4 posted on 08/21/2008 6:37:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: libstripper

I suppose that conversely, then, we could argue that in-home heating produced northern liberals?


5 posted on 08/21/2008 6:37:56 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: libstripper

It sounds like he longs to live in Europe.

I tell all my liberal friends that if they want to reduce their carbon footprint just turn off the AC and hang their clothes on the clothesline outside.

They never seem to want to do that.


6 posted on 08/21/2008 6:40:13 AM PDT by NeilGus
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To: libstripper
as well as the fact that we haven't elected a Yankee president in nearly 50 years.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

George H. W. Bush

7 posted on 08/21/2008 6:41:16 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: libstripper

I think the desire to continue having AC makes *smart* people vote Republican.
susie


8 posted on 08/21/2008 6:41:30 AM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: WayneS

ROFLMAO!


9 posted on 08/21/2008 6:42:15 AM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: NeilGus
It sounds like he longs to live in Europe.

The last time I visited Greece back in the mid-1990s, it seemed the only place you could find AC was inside a newer car. How primitive... and hot.

Back to the article. The writer is an idiot. It gets plenty hot and humid up north too.

10 posted on 08/21/2008 6:42:25 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: SampleMan
I can just see them now, sitting in a steaming hot house with sweat pouring down their faces, instructing their children that air conditioning is for Republicans.

Sounds like a good way to turn the kids into Republicans. "Well if we have to vote GOP to keep from getting heatstroke IN the house...", or "Those dang liberals [like Dad] are IDIOTS!"

11 posted on 08/21/2008 6:43:29 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: libstripper

Sounds like AC should be credited for saving what remaining, competitive manufacturing base we have in this country.


12 posted on 08/21/2008 6:44:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pnh102
It gets plenty hot and humid up north too.

He knows this. The point is that liberals are too stupid to fix things, and he aparently likes that. ;-)

13 posted on 08/21/2008 6:44:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: NeilGus

I did use a clothes line for years (and cloth diapers—I really should win an award!) I kinda miss the way clothes dried on the line smell, but I admit, I really don’t want to spend that much time on laundry these days (plus my HOA would likely have a fit if I put up a clothes line!).

susie


14 posted on 08/21/2008 6:45:20 AM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: libstripper
Time's Joe Klein Wants to 'Kill Your Air Conditioner'

Paging AARP....

15 posted on 08/21/2008 6:45:23 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Red Badger

Climate control in general is a HUGE productivity booster in modern economies.

Yes, libs are luddites. Some, however, want to keep the luxuries for themselves, and just don’t want everyone else to have them.

In some cases, it’s because of their “fixed pie” mentality,
but in others, it’s just a matter of

“I’m an elite, I should have stuff that others don’t, and if they can get it, I’ll do my best to put a stop to it.”


16 posted on 08/21/2008 6:45:57 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Juan Medén
I suppose that conversely, then, we could argue that in-home heating produced northern liberals?

Yes, the outgassing of the upholstery stuffing at the elevated temperatures killed a lot of their brain cells.

17 posted on 08/21/2008 6:46:26 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: libstripper
Does air conditioning make people vote Republican?

No, common sense does.

18 posted on 08/21/2008 6:48:42 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: pnh102
Well, here in Germany, air conditioning is almost non-existent. On post, the only way you can get air conditioning is if you buy it yourself, or if it is necessary (meaning your equipment may break if it gets too warm; it being 95 degrees indoors while you are trying to sleep is not an acceptable reason to get A/C). Our buildings trap heat quite well; and the hottest part of the building is the basement, where I do most of my work...
19 posted on 08/21/2008 6:53:48 AM PDT by tlj18
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To: libstripper

The most destructive legacy of air conditioning is that it’s use has inflicted us with year-round Congress. BAC, Congress used to escape the confines of Washington during the oppressively hot summers. Curse you Willis Carrier.


20 posted on 08/21/2008 6:56:01 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: pnh102

Damn straight. In Maine, it gets both hot and humid in the summer months.


21 posted on 08/21/2008 6:58:41 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Don't vote for Obama.....America doesn't need a black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: libstripper

Don’t know if air conditioners make people vote Republican but government checks sure make the vote DemocRat.


22 posted on 08/21/2008 6:59:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: libstripper
"If you can't stand the winters, you don't deserve the summers."

Is it catty to point out that almost everyone in Maine has a heater? And that they use it during the winter?

23 posted on 08/21/2008 7:06:45 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: pnh102
The last time I visited Greece back in the mid-1990s, it seemed the only place you could find AC was inside a newer car.

I used to ride German trains around just to cool off.

24 posted on 08/21/2008 7:07:27 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: SampleMan

Don’t forget leaving your elderly parents in the house w/o air conditioning while you are taking that 2000 mile vacation. Merde!


25 posted on 08/21/2008 7:07:36 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Rest In Peace, Capt. Ed "Too Tall" Freeman (1928-2008))
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To: NeilGus
I tell all my liberal friends that if they want to reduce their carbon footprint just turn off the AC and hang their clothes on the clothesline outside.

Try that and the homeowner's association will be all over you.

26 posted on 08/21/2008 7:12:57 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: libstripper

It’s the Air Conditioner.

It is not the constant leftward drift of the Democrat Party and the fact that the party core has been siezed by radical activists of every conceivable stripe. It is not that your average voter feels no connection to a party leadership that spends more time reading Saul Alinsky than Mark Twain. It is not that the Democrat Party actively works for the defeat of the country and the destruction of our entire way of life. It is not that the Democrat Party spits on our soldiers and refuses to salute the flag.

No, it’s the Air Conditioner.


27 posted on 08/21/2008 7:15:28 AM PDT by gridlock (John McCain wants you to know... It's OK to vote against Barack Obama!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
In Maine, it gets both hot and humid in the summer months

How hot does it get in Maine?(not a joke setup)

28 posted on 08/21/2008 7:16:07 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: brytlea

“(plus my HOA would likely have a fit if I put up a clothes line!).”

Reason enough for doing it, in my opinion...


29 posted on 08/21/2008 7:17:47 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: libstripper
They have a saying in Maine: "If you can't stand the winters, you don't deserve the summers."

I grew up in Maine, and I've never heard that. Pretty much, we just complained when it was cold in the winter, and complained when it was hot in the summer.

I'll take a wild guess and assume that this "journalist" spent a few weeks in Maine one summer, and now calls himself a "Mainer". Whatta Dip.

30 posted on 08/21/2008 7:17:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: libstripper

LOL,

My goodness Edward, how long did it take for you to type up this silly accumulation of words?

It must be nice to know that no matter how ridiculous the topic, or how poorly written the hit piece, there will always be a silly little Leftist site like Salon.com who will pay you some greenbacks for it.

I think that your mama “spared the rod and spoiled the child” Edward.

Edward, put a sign on your ceiling and all your walls that says “Edward, go get a real job and become a benefit to society!”

It’s real important that you follow the advice on that sign Edward, because all that hate and bile roiling around inside you is gonna kill you sooner than later.


31 posted on 08/21/2008 7:19:06 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: laotzu
How hot does it get in Maine?

Generally, you can count on a week or two in the 80s and 90s. I've seen 100, but it's rare. AC in homes is rare, too. :-)

85 is hot, when there's no AC, and you're used to 60s and 70s.

32 posted on 08/21/2008 7:20:50 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

“Pretty much, we just complained when it was cold in the winter, and complained when it was hot in the summer.”

So then, folks from Maine are just like everyone else, every where else... Who’d a thunk it?

;^)


33 posted on 08/21/2008 7:21:40 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: libstripper

This is actually a pretty entertaining story if you read the whole thing. Reminds me of the joke about how “cool” Austin used to be ...

Q) How many Austinites does it take to change a light bulb?

A) 10. 1 to change the bulb and 9 to tell you how cool the old one was.

Thanks for posting libstripper. ;o)


34 posted on 08/21/2008 7:21:48 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: libstripper
They have a saying in Maine: "If you can't stand the winters, you don't deserve the summers." But the air conditioner allows Arizonans to enjoy a cool, lakelike breeze in the comfort of their living rooms, without ever having to buy snow tires

Arizonans might say "If you can't stand the summers you don't deserve the winters." You see with heating oil or wood burning stoves, citizens of Maine can enjoy those warm Arizonan winter days in the comfort of their homes.

See how that works dipshit? (not you, the writer of course.)

35 posted on 08/21/2008 7:23:23 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: WayneS
So then, folks from Maine are just like everyone else, every where else

Ayuh. Unless you're a Massachusetts Liberal that summers over in Maine. Then you say that you're "From Maine", and that you're better than everyone else because of it. :-)

36 posted on 08/21/2008 7:25:49 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
and you're used to 60s and 70s

Thanks. Hawaiians don parkas when it drops to 70.
It really does depend on what you're used to.

If I were to visit one place in Maine, where would you recommend?

37 posted on 08/21/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: libstripper

absent the political tripe, i love articles like this. the advent of AC and how it led to a migration to the south is fascinating and something we rarely think about.


38 posted on 08/21/2008 7:31:38 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: cowboyway

Thank you for noting this. GHWB popped right up in my mind when I read the Yankee president line

KosmicKitty <- Connecticut Yankee


39 posted on 08/21/2008 7:33:53 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: libstripper
OK, Mr. Maine, I'm really not sure what your argument is. It is either that your a lot smarter than everyone else or that cold winters make you appreciate hot summers and make you vote for liberal? Here's some numbers for you that bear as much relevance to anything as your article does..

Let's look at McGovern, a liberal product of South Dakota.

South Dakota: Record High: 120 degrees Record Low: -58 degrees. Nixon: 54% McGovern: 46%

Maine: Record High: 105 degrees Record Low: -48 degree. Nixon: 61% McGovern: 38%
40 posted on 08/21/2008 7:51:09 AM PDT by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: laotzu
If I were to visit one place in Maine, where would you recommend?

Depends on what you're looking for. Regardless of where you go, I'd recommend going in September. The summer people have cleared out, mostly, and the leaf-lookers haven't arrived yet. Weather is generally good, or as good as can be expected in Maine.

If you want to be a tourist, then just land in Maine, start at Kittery (southernmost point on the coast) and work your way up Route 1 to Acadia National Park. Hit the Old Port in Portland, LL Bean in Freeport, and just about any "folksy coastal town" along the way. You'll see everything that everyone else talks about and will have a good time. You'll also deal with mobs of tourists, and pay through the nose for everything.

If the outdoors is your forte, Moosehead Lake + Baxter State Park (central northern part of the state) are great, and a little more off the beaten path. The Appalachain Trail starts in Baxter. If you REALLY want to get lost, the Allagash Wilderness Waterway (far northern part of the state) is a good week or two in the woods. I would only recommend this if you're pretty experienced, woods-wise, though.

If you want to tour around Maine, see some great stuff, and NOT be a tourist.... I recommend the Western part of the state (where my family is....) There's plenty of state parks, hiking, fishing, and gorgeous scenery. Not a whole lot of folks from away, particularly if you go in September. Rangeley and the surrounding area, in particular, is beautiful. Don't expect a lot of nightlife, restaurants, and clubs to go to though. The streets roll up pretty early. A wild night out may consist of sandwiches picked up at the local general store, eaten on a picnic bench overlooking the lake. Maybe icecream from the dairy bar, and a good book before going to bed.

41 posted on 08/21/2008 7:55:41 AM PDT by wbill
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To: HIDEK6

No kidding. I left my lawn mower out for a few hours once, because I couldn’t get it started and was waiting for my husband. I got an HOA letter complaining that I was “storing” my lawnmower in front of my house.


42 posted on 08/21/2008 7:55:57 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I've left the Grand Ol' Plantation. / GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU!)
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To: NeilGus

I used to compromise on that, I lived in an apartment and the aircon condenser unit sat on the balcony, when I did a wash I simply put all the laundry out on a clothes horse in front of the unit while I sat inside in my nice cool room; all the clothes would be dry within thirty minutes at no extra cost to me.


43 posted on 08/21/2008 8:03:12 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: wbill

Well said, & very helpful. Thanks. You represent Maine well.


44 posted on 08/21/2008 8:04:19 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

No problem. Enjoy your trip.


45 posted on 08/21/2008 8:06:46 AM PDT by wbill
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To: 9YearLurker

The thing that is never asked is why where the widget factories of 1880-1920 built around the Great Lakes instead of the South. Were there no men in Alabama or Mississippi in 1896 to work in a factory? They only appeared in 1966?


46 posted on 08/21/2008 8:08:11 AM PDT by AceMineral (I am not for everyone.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; pnh102
"The writer is an idiot. It gets plenty hot and humid up north too."

Damn straight. In Maine, it gets both hot and humid in the summer months.

Thanks to global warming. < /sarcasm>

47 posted on 08/21/2008 8:09:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cowboyway

George H. W. Bush is a Texan who happened to be born in Connecticut.

He moved here after honorable service in WWII, and except when serving his country, has lived in Texas ever since.

He made his fortune in Texas.

He raised his family in Texas.

He buried a child in Texas.

He ran for every political office he held as a Texas resident.

He set up his Presidential library in Texas.

He moved back to Texas after serving as President.

He has lived in Texas longer than Sam Houston. He has lived in Texas longer than Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie, and Buck Travis, combined.

We can argue the man’s politics, whether he was a good President, and whether or not he is conservative enough, but if Sam Houston is from Texas, then so is G. H W. Bush.

He may have been born a yankee, but he got to God’s Country as soon as he could and has been here ever since. Texas has always been less about where you were born, than about what you did afterwards.


48 posted on 08/21/2008 8:13:40 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The most destructive legacy of air conditioning is that it’s use has inflicted us with year-round Congress. BAC, Congress used to escape the confines of Washington during the oppressively hot summers. Curse you Willis Carrier.

DC used to be considered a hardship posting for diplomats before air conditioning made it livable.

I couldn't imagine living here in the summers without AC, though we're having an unusually cool summer this year.

49 posted on 08/21/2008 8:36:35 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: AceMineral

I think the explanation would be that before ac, you’d have too many workers shuffling along—if not outright keeling over—in the summer heat. Working in the fields was probably not as bad as an afternoon cooped up in a steamy factory!


50 posted on 08/21/2008 8:39:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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