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To: lonewacko_dot_com

This constant Kevin Costneresk Hollywood crap about the Indians really gets my goat. The indians were barely able to make fire when the settlers came. They were basically cavemen still running around naked and eating roots and insects and behaving like barbaric, undeveloped neandrathals. Until the Spanish arrived, they didn’t even have horses. To promote them as some special spiritually elevated royalty deserving of all that the conquering Europeons have built-just give it back to the indians-is to be ignorant of history. They lost. Get over it, libs.


11 posted on 08/19/2008 10:51:36 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Hi Heels

“This constant Kevin Costneresk Hollywood crap about the Indians really gets my goat. The indians were barely able to make fire when the settlers came. They were basically cavemen still running around naked and eating roots and insects and behaving like barbaric, undeveloped neandrathals. Until the Spanish arrived, they didn’t even have horses. To promote them as some special spiritually elevated royalty deserving of all that the conquering Europeons have built-just give it back to the indians-is to be ignorant of history. They lost. Get over it, libs.”

They’re just following the old “Noble Savage” bit from Rousseau. It was a pantsload then, it’s still one, but it appeals to Libs.


21 posted on 08/19/2008 11:30:33 AM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: Hi Heels

Yours is a really poorly thought out comment I fear, as well as being devoid of the truth and any facts. It was just so much emotionally-fueled hyperbole. Barely able to make fire? Roots and insects? LOL!

This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative, try to relax. Hussein is a dumba$$, we all know that, and there is no reason to follow him into that abyss. To be kind, I won’t point out the myriad spelling errors this caveman may or may not have noticed in your post. Please understand, we dislike the crystal-rubbing, hippie types as much as you do. But, yet, I realize that is merely one aspect of a people and not representative of the whole. Anyway, thanks for your time, I got to shed these clothes; there are roots and insects out there with my name on them. :)


24 posted on 08/19/2008 11:43:28 AM PDT by WildcatClan (300 million citizens, and it narrows down to Hussein & McCain?)
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To: Hi Heels

Read some Allan W. Eckert.


29 posted on 08/19/2008 11:54:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36, Moscow '80, Beijing '08 ... Olympic games for murdering regimes.)
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To: Hi Heels

Absolutely wrong. Some of the largest settlements in the world were native american. They were not barbarians running around naked, or anything nearly as primitive.

Yes, their everyday life was very different from that of a european, but they were doing quite well on their own.

And indeed they lost


37 posted on 08/19/2008 12:21:55 PM PDT by buckeye12
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To: Hi Heels
The indians were barely able to make fire when the settlers came. They were basically cavemen still running around naked and eating roots and insects and behaving like barbaric, undeveloped neandrathals. Until the Spanish arrived, they didn’t even have horses.

Different tribes were at different levels of civilization. The mound builders and pueblo dwellers were certainly more "advanced" or "civilized" than some nomadic tribes were.

California, as a particularly temperate and hospitable part of the world didn't require technological innovation from the people who lived there, so development didn't go so far as it did in other parts of the continent.

And about the horses -- was that really their fault? Europeans didn't have corn or potatoes before discovering the New World either.

40 posted on 08/19/2008 12:34:47 PM PDT by x
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To: Hi Heels

Yeah, me too. What really gets me is the whole “peaceful savages” thing. Many Native American tribes were very familiar with war - up to and including extermination of rival tribes - long before “the white devils” came here.


42 posted on 08/19/2008 5:20:25 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Hi Heels

“This constant Kevin Costneresk Hollywood crap about the Indians really gets my goat. The indians were barely able to make fire when the settlers came. They were basically cavemen still running around naked and eating roots and insects and behaving like barbaric, undeveloped neandrathals. Until the Spanish arrived, they didn’t even have horses. To promote them as some special spiritually elevated royalty deserving of all that the conquering Europeons have built-just give it back to the indians-is to be ignorant of history. They lost. Get over it, libs.”

All Indian cultures were not created equal. Are you saying that every Indian group whose land was taken and they were ethically cleansed were barbaric, undeveloped neandrathals?
All of them?


45 posted on 08/19/2008 5:34:39 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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