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Evolving Obama now supports $2 billion more for NASA
Houston Chronicle ^ | 08/18/08 | RICHARD S. DUNHAM

Posted on 08/18/2008 6:49:33 PM PDT by KevinDavis

WASHINGTON — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's position on space exploration continued to evolve Sunday as the Illinois Democrat endorsed a congressional plan to add $2 billion to NASA's budget and agreed to back at least one more space shuttle mission.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: flipflops; flipper; nasa; nobama; obama; obama2008; obamaflipflops; space; spacerace
He must be in trouble in Florida..

"Let us now embark upon this great journey into the stars to find whatever may await us."

-John McCain

1 posted on 08/18/2008 6:49:34 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: markman46; AntiKev; wastedyears; ALOHA RONNIE; RightWhale; anymouse; Brett66; SunkenCiv; ...

2 posted on 08/18/2008 6:50:02 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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To: KevinDavis

I’ll see your two billion for NASA and raise you royalty payments for offshore drilling...


3 posted on 08/18/2008 6:51:50 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: KevinDavis
Obama probably thinks that the money is for Nassau...
4 posted on 08/18/2008 6:52:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: KevinDavis

By “evolve”, do you mean flip-flop, or lie ?


5 posted on 08/18/2008 6:54:01 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: Army Air Corps; All

Probably..


6 posted on 08/18/2008 6:54:09 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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To: KevinDavis
"evolve"

MSM definition: Nuance for flip-flop

7 posted on 08/18/2008 6:54:24 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: KevinDavis

Good lets send him to uranus


8 posted on 08/18/2008 6:54:39 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom Cracker power Brother)
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To: KevinDavis

Agreed.

If Florida was a solid red state worth four electoral votes, OBama would not have changed his original stance.

McCain also supports increasing funding for NASA by the same amount. And it is indeed needed.

We are at a very critical point, and national strategic needs are depending on sound decisions now.

I am sure I am not the only space exploration supporter that is a little surprised at how much NASA has been elevated during this election. Normally little ever comes up.

McCain has been on board the long term plans of NASA all along.

Obama only shifted recently after he won the nomination.


9 posted on 08/18/2008 6:54:44 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: KevinDavis

Maybe James Hansen has gotten to him and said that NASA needs the money to buy a bigger tape measurer to measure the “ozone hole.”


10 posted on 08/18/2008 6:55:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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To: KevinDavis
Oh, Obama's stances are "evolving" now, are they?

Okay, guess what? I want someone who has already evolved and knows what he stands for.

11 posted on 08/18/2008 6:55:51 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: KevinDavis
John McCain on America's Space Program

12 posted on 08/18/2008 6:56:21 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; All

That is one of the reasons why I’m supporting John McCain.. Besides NASA only takes .5% of our national budget.


13 posted on 08/18/2008 6:59:10 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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To: KevinDavis

.."guy's got more flip-flops than a Chinese export company"

14 posted on 08/18/2008 6:59:41 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: KevinDavis
Evolving Obama

“I say it’s all/just wind in sails...”

15 posted on 08/18/2008 7:02:29 PM PDT by RichInOC (Obama '08: The Fittest Shall Survive, Yet The Unfit May Live.)
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To: All

My respect for Mr John “The Clean Marine” Glenn is gone. I hated him as a politician, now I just hate him..


16 posted on 08/18/2008 7:03:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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To: KevinDavis

This J.O. has absolutely no consistency. He says one thing today, then something contradictory tomorrow. Amazing

The worst part is McCain doesn’t call him out on it.


17 posted on 08/18/2008 7:05:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: dfwddr

Both!

LLS


18 posted on 08/18/2008 7:06:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( REAGANISM not communism)
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To: KevinDavis

Ah, how easily he slips into a position that space advocates want to hear. Think how easily he’ll slip out of it when the next group requires their share of pandering.


19 posted on 08/18/2008 7:06:57 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: al baby

Maybe uranus, but not mine....


20 posted on 08/18/2008 7:14:47 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: KevinDavis
Evolving Obama now supports $2 billion more for NASA

This is just good campaigning.

I know a couple of otherwise conservative guys who work for the EPA
(they are in the chemistry, not the pure politics end of the agency).

But given how they listen to presidential candidates to hear
how much $$$ is coming into their agency if Candidate A or Candidate B
is elected...that's the basis of how they are going to vote.

Obama is as fake as a $3 bill...but this sort of "proposal"
will probably seduce some workers/voters at NASA.
21 posted on 08/18/2008 7:15:09 PM PDT by VOA
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To: KevinDavis
["...and agreed to back at least one more space shuttle mission."]

To search for Farrakhan's mother ship?

22 posted on 08/18/2008 7:16:30 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: LibLieSlayer
Last line:

"Considering Obama's shifting positions, he cannot be trusted to fully support NASA's mission to Mars," said the RNC's Conant. "The only thing Barack Obama knows about sending a man to the moon is that it's a good applause line."

23 posted on 08/18/2008 7:18:16 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: KevinDavis

But......but.....but......I “thought” obama was going to trash NASA to put lots of $$ into his personal/dem social agenda...

WTF ???

obama seems to be following the McCain program....but ONLY after obamas program has failed.... a Johnny come lately....like a duck on a string...


24 posted on 08/18/2008 7:29:04 PM PDT by Thinkin (easy)
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To: KevinDavis
Evolving Obama now supports $2 billion more for NASA
Of course he does. NASA is just another tax payer funded arm of the environmental movement.
25 posted on 08/18/2008 7:34:52 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: KevinDavis
The truth is that Obama is for the same things as whoever he talked to, or at, last.

...infinitely malleable is not a Presidential asset!

26 posted on 08/18/2008 7:38:42 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: lewislynn

“Of course he does. NASA is just another tax payer funded arm of the environmental movement.”

I only agree with that to a very small extent.

NASA does so much more.

Hubble, Mars Rovers and landers, Space Station construction(human exploration), Saturn and Jupiter probes, Solar studies (yes that helps fight global warming whackos too) comet and asteroid studies (very important if we ever are in the crosshairs someday) aviation, On and on and on.

It’s important stuff.

The nations that lead on the frontiers, dictate the course of human history.


27 posted on 08/18/2008 7:40:29 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I only agree with that to a very small extent.
What degree you agree with it is irrelevant. The fact they're involved at all is what the future of NASA really is.

Cut out their environmentalist goals and see how long the funding of the "NASA does so much more" lasts.

NASA does so much more.
Be careful what you wish for.
28 posted on 08/18/2008 7:52:19 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn

I just listed some major things that NASA does that is not an arm of environmental extremists.

Listen, we DO have to study our planet and others to understand how to do the things that will benefit humans to the best degree possible.

Climate will change, it is important to know what that means so we can plan ahead. Agriculture around the world will change because of it. I am not saying this in an Al Gore way. Simply that it is good to have all the information you can get.

That is not environmental extremism. We DO need to monitor the things that do and can happen.
I am not saying we can change anything, but we certainly must be educated enough to adapt to any changes coming.

I think people have painted themselves into a corner and just freak out and think NASA is nothing but people like that Hansen nutjob. Just ain’t so.

The NASA administrator certainly did not agree with him.

Again, NASA does so much more.

Project Constellation is about ultimately getting us back to the moon to stay and beyond one day.

That is exploration and pushing back the frontier.

As America has always done.

Astronaut Story Musgrave.....

“We have been a frontier culture. We were born out of exploration, we were born out of adventure. We were born out of the plains and the mountains. We’ve been a very physical kind of culture. And so, if you look at adventure, if you look at exploration, if you look at immersion in nature, a physical culture, and all those things, you can see directly how space flight relates to the way America has been born and how it evolved.”

“You have to keep pushing the frontier not just because it’s there, but because that’s how we find things that end up changing humanity,” -Paul Hill, Mission Control


29 posted on 08/18/2008 8:16:25 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: KevinDavis

Democrats want to privatize the space race and nationalize the oil industry.


30 posted on 08/18/2008 9:40:57 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: KevinDavis

and nationalize health care.


31 posted on 08/18/2008 9:41:18 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: KevinDavis

and nationalize education.


32 posted on 08/18/2008 9:41:28 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: KevinDavis

and nationalize retirement.


33 posted on 08/18/2008 9:41:41 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: KevinDavis

and nationalize your thermostat setting.


34 posted on 08/18/2008 9:42:06 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: KevinDavis

This is unbelievable. He’s been always for cuts cuts cuts.. And now this?

McCain has always been pro-space program.


35 posted on 08/18/2008 9:43:02 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: lewislynn

but we are destroying the environment of mars and the moon !!!!!


36 posted on 08/18/2008 10:12:17 PM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophagus)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Obama spaces-out ping


37 posted on 08/19/2008 12:40:48 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: KevinDavis; All

Obama 1.2
Obama 2.0
Obama 2.1
Obama service pack 1
Obama 3.0

so now the DBM is calling on the job training “evolving”


38 posted on 08/19/2008 7:22:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

It used to be called flip flopping, waffling, or just outright LYING.


39 posted on 08/19/2008 7:56:29 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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