Posted on 08/16/2008 5:45:46 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
A Turkish energy ministry official confirmed that the BTC pipeline blast was a terrorist act. But what’s more, Russia’s international politics advisor to the Russian Duma declared the pipeline “dead” and that it would never operate again.
An adviser to the Russian parliament also claimed the closed pipeline would not be opened again and declared the line is “dead”. “The world and countries in the region have seen that not NATO, but Russia is the only one who could secure the energy routes,” Alexander Dugin, international politics advisor to the Russia’s Duma, told Turkish Cumhuriyet daily.
“In this context, regarding Turkey’s energy politics, it should be said that the BTC is not running at the moment and it will not run again.” How can they know it will not run again? Because they have the communist PKK at the ready to ensure it stays dead with more bombings if necessary.
Earlier this week, we asked “Did Russia Employ Communist PKK Ahead of Georgia Invasion?” The PKK took responsibility for the BTC pipeline bombing. But it remains likely that the communist terrorists got marching orders from Vladimir Putin, one of the opening kinetic salvos into the drive on Georgia.
The comment above from Alexander Dugin is a clear indicator for those not already aware that Russia’s intent in Georgia extends far beyond the dirt and people in the former Soviet republic. The larger target is western Europe and the United States.
But the conflict is too hot to term it Cold War II. At least in Georgia - and Turkey, if one believes as I do that the PKK acted on Russian request or direction.
Ping.
Ping.
Now this man is a good candidate for the anti-Christ.
I honestly do not know much about him. What is his background? Does he make Putin seem cuddly by comparison?
Every time Russia declares one of their westbound pipelines “dead”, one of their eastbound pipelines should “die”.
Here ya’ go !!!...:0/
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Among the latter are Nataliya Vitrenko, the well-known head of the so-called Progessive Socialist Party of Ukraine, and Dmitro Korchinsky, formerly leader of the Ukrainian fascist party UNA-UNSO and now chairman of the Bratstvo (Brotherhood) Party. Dugin’s name was recently mentioned in Ukrainian mass media in connection with the scandal that arose when Ukrainian Presidential Advisor Mykola Zhulinsky was barred from entering Russia during a private trip to St. Petersburg this summer. This was interpreted as a retaliation for Ukraine’s refusal to permit Dugin entering Ukraine shortly before. In June 2006, Dugin had been declared persona non grata in Ukraine until 2011 for violating Ukrainian law, and was thus deported back to Russia after he had arrived by plane at Simferopol airport in early June 2007 in order to attend the festival “The Great Russian Word” organized by the Russian Community of the Crimea. In spite of this conflict with the Ukrainian authorities, the youth organization of Dugin’s Movement, the Eurasian Union of Youth, has an active branch in Ukraine, and is particularly visible in Sumy, Kyiv and the Crimea.
Dugin’s increasing celebrity in the CIS is remarkable considering that the chief “neo-Eurasian” is not only among the most influential, but also one of the most brazen of Russia’s ultra-nationalist publicists. While authors such as Kurginyan or Shafarevich are satisfied to promote a renaissance of classical Russian anti-Western sentiments in their pamphlets and subtly draw on Western sources, Dugin admits openly that his main ideas are based on non-Russian anti-democratic concepts such as European integral Traditionalism (e.g. René Guénon, Julius Evola, Claudio Mutti, etc.), Western geopolitics (e.g. Alfred Mahan, Halford Mackinder, Karl Haushofer), the German “conservative revolution” (e.g. Carl Schmitt, Ernst Jünger, Arthur Moeller van den Bruck), and the francophone New Right (e.g. Alain de Benoist, Robert Steuckers, Jean Thiriart).
Furthermore, during the 1990s, Dugin repeatedly hinted at his sympathy for selected aspects of Italian Fascism and National Socialism, such as the SS and its Ahnenerbe (“Ancestral Heritage”) Institute, and has described the Third Reich as the most consistent incarnation of the “Third Way” that he explicitly advocates. In the chapter “Fascism – Boundless and Red” of the online version of his 1997 book Tampliery Proletariata (The Templar Knights of the Proletariat), he expressed the hope that the inconsistent application of originally correct ideas by Hitler, Mussolini, etc. would, eventually, be followed in post-Soviet Russia by the emergence of a “fascist fascism”. In Dugin’s apocalyptic worldview, global history consists of a centuries-old confrontation between hierarchically organized “Eurasian” continental powers and liberal “Atlantic” naval powers. Today, this confrontation is carried out between Russia and the US as the main representatives of the two antagonistic types of civilization, and its final battle is approaching (Dugin uses the German word Endkampf, which has Nazi connotations, without a Russian translation).
One might expect Dugin, and other extremely right-wing pundits offering similar pro-fascist statements, to be subjected to the same public stigmatization as neo-Nazi parties and skinhead groups are currently experiencing in Russia. However, this has not been the case so far. On the contrary, Dugin and others of his ilk, such as the well-known editor-in-chief of Russia’s leading ultranationalist weekly Zavtra (“Tomorrow”), Aleksandr Prochanov, are popular guests in prime-time political television shows such as Vremena (“Times”, hosted by Vladimir Pozner), Tem vremenem (“In the Meantime”, hosted by Aleksandr Archangelsky), Voskresnyi vecher’ (“Sunday Evening”), or K Bar’eru (“To the Barricade”, hosted by Vladimir Solovyov), and are even invited to popular talk shows like Pust’ govoryat (“Let Them Speak”, hosted by Andrei Malakhov).
"setting the stage for Dugin's dream of a Russian strategic alliance with European and Middle Eastern states, primarily Iran. Dugin's ideas, particularly those on "a Turkic-Slavic alliance in the Eurasian sphere" have recently become popular among certain nationalistic circles in Turkey. One of the basic ideas that underpin his theories is that Moscow, Berlin, and Paris form a "natural" geopolitical axis, because a line or axis from Moscow to Berlin will pass through the vicinity of Paris if extended). Dugin's theories foresee an eternal world conflict between land and sea, and hence, Dugin believes, the U.S. and Russia. He says, "In principle, Eurasia and our space, the heartland Russia, remain the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution."
So Nazi Pelosi’s going to go to Russia to get this straightened out so we don’t start drilling off our own coasts?
OK. Russia. The Roki Tunnel is NOW closed.
The appropriate "equipment" has now been given to the Georgians to "properly" handle the "New" situation and defend their country.
Your move.
Oh....and have a nice day!
Sounds like something from a cheap novel!
Let us hope the world wakes up soon.
Between the incessant winters and empty store shelves, there isn't much to do but amuse yourselves by moving little pieces of wood.
Say what you want about the Russians, they know how to play Chess.
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Roger Dat!!!
Did Pooty cut 10% of the oil to the EU ?...mmmmmmmm...
Its another financial squeeze courteous of Iran and Russia. Bush is an oil man, I wish he would not play so dumb.
ping
“Eurasian Movement” is officially created by constitutional Congress in Moscow 20 November 2003 and registered by Russian Ministry of Juridical Affairs as “International Social Movement” actuating on the world scale, in every country where the activity of International NGO is accepted. The main goals of International Eurasian Movement are
the the common struggle for multipolar world, based on the cooperation of different people, civilizations and cultures for the peace and mutual prosperity;
the close partnership between the European and Asiatic countries with the special role reserved for Russia as main mediator of this process;
the integration of post-Soviet space up to the point of creation of united “Eurasian Alliance” in the cultural, economical, informational, strategic and political levels;
the active and multilateral dialog of the traditional confessions and ethnos of Eurasia, mutual understanding and esteem of Eurasian elites and societies;
the conservation cultural, religious, ethnic identities of every people, development of national uniqueness and originality;
the strengthening of peace and order basing on the Eurasian principles – Pax Eurasiatica;
the opposition to the negative tendencies – unipolar and unidimensional globalization, cultural degradation, terrorism, narcotrafic, absence of social justice, ecological and demographic catastrophes. The activity of Eurasian Movement is defined by the solutions of “Higher Council”.
The executive organ of Eurasian Movement is “Eurasian Committee” with the headquarter in Moscow.
The President of “Eurasian Committee” and leader of “Eurasian Movement” is Alexandre Dugin, the philosophe, founder of neo-eurasisme, the creator of modern Russian school of geopolitics.
Well, what are we going to do about this here in the US? Time's a wasting.
Its another financial squeeze courteous of Iran and Russia. Bush is an oil man, I wish he would not play so dumb.
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Any/All hope I had for the POTUS was left at the border,,,
Globalism Is A Dead-End Street!!!
Fasten Seat-Belts...:0/
Yep, he is more of a fascist than a traditional commie. Still, fascism is just another flavour of evil.
I have been posting here about the dangers of neo-eurasionism for years. They hate the US and want us to be destroyed. There are a few more websites out there that are quite interesting. There was also an op-ed feature in the Washington Post some time ago about Dugyn and how he was on Tv in Russia nonstop. He is quite prominent and his prominence has changed Russia so much that I would never return there now.
In everything Dugyn says, you can hear things Putin said, like the above, about the demise of the USSR. Dugyn is the reason Putin has courted Iran and China and seems to hate us.
So, do Putin and Dugin have a long standing relationship or did one seek-out the other?
Well said. In fact, so well said that, with your permission I would like to adopt it in a slightly modified form as my new tagline:
"The best way to calm the delusions of grandeur in the energy oligarchy is to stop needing their energy as soon as possible."
It's prelest. He believes in a spiritual destiny for Russia, which has been actually discussed in the church before....except he has taken it and mixed it up. You have to understand that Russians are somewhat about blood stuff anyway...
Dugyn is a very, very evil and scary person. And way too powerful.
"Each year, newspapers, publishing houses and think tanks produce more bizarre attacks on the United States and the West that increasingly resemble Soviet propaganda, though they are more sophisticated."
"The fear is that anti-Western sentiment in Russia may spiral out of the Kremlin’s control. A number of ideologues from the lunatic fringe are already part of Russia’s political establishment. Take Alexander Dugin, a political commentator little known in the West but prominent in Russian public and intellectual life. A rabid anti-American, Dugin openly praised the Third Reich, the SS and fascism in general in the 1990s."
"As recently as 2006, Dugin singled out for praise the ideas of Gregor and Otto Strasser— two Germans who helped Hitler build the Nazi party in the 1920s. Yet in spite of such statements Dugin has become a well-respected participant on primetime political talk shows; some of his numerous tomes are used as textbooks in Russian schools and universities."
The world and countries in the region have seen that not NATO, but Russia is the only one who could secure the energy routes,” Aleksandr Dugin said...
The plot thickens...
And check out the posts on this Aleksandr Dugin guy and his "Eurasian Movement".
We got more here than "a failure to communicate"...
Ping, folks. Read the information on this thread about Dugin. This is the man whipsering in Putin’s ear.
Thanks for the ping Joe
Related information
Georgian rail bridge blast hits Azeri oil exports
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKLG43375520080816
Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:59pm BST
BAKU (Reuters) - Azerbaijan suspended oil exports through ports in western Georgia on Sunday after an explosion damaged a key rail bridge there.
Georgia accused Russian troops of blowing up a railway bridge west of the capital Tbilisi earlier in the day, saying its main east-west train link had been severed. Russia strongly denied any involvement.
“Transportation of oil and oil products in the western direction by railway has been suspended,” Azerbaijan’s state railway company said in a statement read out on television.
It gave the bridge explosion as the reason for the suspension. “The last shipment made by this railway contained 15 tanks,” it said.
Another 72 oil tanks had been due to be sent to next-door Armenia before the railway link was cut off, it said.
The railway line runs from Tbilisi, through the Russian-occupied Georgian town of Gori, before splitting in three and running to the Black Sea ports of Poti and Batumi and southwest to just short of the Turkish border.
Azerbaijan is emerging as an important oil supplier to the West and its fast economic growth depends heavily on revenues from oil exports from the land-locked Caspian Sea.
We can Conserve as Conservatives Do!!!
Stop bein’ Pigs as the Rats/Rinos Do!!!
Demand for oil/gas is still dropping last I saw,,,
Motor fuel/Home Heating Oil prices are still going down,,,
Gulf States Can CHOP The Oil And Gas Severance TAX!!!
ALL States Can CHOP Fuel TAXES!!!
Yes,,,I've on a PRO~TAXPAYER Rant All Day!!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
Ping.
Read the posts on this thread about Dugin; the man is an evil sack of “stuff” and has Putin’s ear.
I prefer a communist Russia. At least you know their position and Europe will have to wake up from their 20 year slumber.
Thanks! You and MarMema have been on top of this guy. To know this guy is to know Russian foreign policy.
LOL, for sure.
Interesting to see how this BTC subject comes up that we here talked about long ago.
I think Putin overplayed his hand,
and I think the pipeline will be safe, and even grow,
because if the Ussr, I mean Russia,
Wants to pretend it has a possible re-organization of the USSR, this “CIS” stuff,
They are going to have to be very, very nice to these countries to entice them back to the status quo.
And assure no violence.
Important public figures have no fear of sounding stupid when they say they are surprised these other SSR’s didn’t support Russia’s actions.
These people’s arrogance and self-importance exceeds Obama’s.
Maybe.
Joe was on it first....but I find it to be terrifying because I see the thread of spiritual delusion in it.
“The world and countries in the region have seen that not NATO, but Russia is the only one who could secure the energy routes,”
I’m getting visions of Tony Saprano informing a business owner that their going to start coughing up some protection money or else something bad could happen.
And if anyone thinks that an English minister's nonsense poem will affect Russia's ''let's control it ALL', policy...well, then .....
DO please, someone, send me the recipe for that particular preparation of Kool-Aid.
Thanks in advance!
What is the cost of the Democrat "No Domestic Energy Policy?"
All of that puts the U.S. in a position that war for oil or
complete economic collapse will be our only choices.
You can't frustrate every source of domestic energy
without consequences. Our enemies will blackmail us
to the extent that we are vulnerable to blackmail.
The Democrats are leading us into a real war for oil.
A war we won't have the energy to fight.
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