Netherlands Recognises Polygamous Marriages of Muslims

NIS News Bulletin ^ | August 12, 2008

[reaganaut1]

ROTTERDAM, 12/08/08 - Although polygamy is banned in the Netherlands, the marriages of Muslims who have several wives are recognised by Dutch authorities.

Registrars in the major cities, in particular, record dozens of bigamous or polygamous marriages per year. These marriages are prohibited and an offence in the Netherlands. However, polygamous marriages that take place in countries where more than one wife is permitted, such as Morocco, are accepted, newspaper NRC Handelsblad reports.

If immigrants with several wives settle in the Netherlands, the local authorities register all the marriages. However, the Central Bureau for Statistics (CBS), where all marriages are registered nationally, removes these bigamous or polygamous marriages from its files, on the assumption that administrative errors have occurred. As a result, it is not known how common the phenomenon is in the Netherlands.

Amsterdam city council has informed the CBS that the marriages are not a mistake. "We will now investigate whether this can be regarded as a trend that was previously not recognised. If this is the case, it is out task to report this," CBS researcher Jan Latten explained in NRC Handelsblad.

"At present, it is not included in our statistics," Latten pointed out. "In the same way, we delete marriages involving fourteen-year-olds. A man with two wives just cannot exist by law."

Spokesman T. Verhoeven of the Rotterdam city council disclosed that polygamous marriages are registered almost every week. "They are simply acknowledged. It is important for us to check that the documents are authentic and that the husband does not have Dutch nationality." Otherwise the construction is illegal, Verhoeven explained.

[reaganaut1]

One set of laws (and welfare benefits) for Muslims, another set of laws for everyone else. How do the native Dutch, some of the most intelligent and educated people in the world (see http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/NationalIQs.aspx ), benefit from so much relatively unskilled Muslim immigration? Why don't they make the husband, upon entry, specify who his *first* wife is. She should be recognized as his sole wife under Dutch law, and if he and the other "wives" don't like it, they should stay in their home country!

[mbarker12474]

When equal protection is used as justification of homosexual marriage, it opens the door for any other sort of desired marriage. Such as polygamy.

Marriage laws weren’t created by either God or state as a benefit to the couple or the two parties involved. They were created to meet the interests of God and the state.

In any event, homosexuals desiring marriage have exactly the same rights as heterosexuals desiring marriage: you can marry one adult individual of the opposite sex. The protection is equal.

[EscapedDutch]

This is one of the many, many reasons I left that country.

[MNlurker]

Pretty much the final nail in the coffin of the Netherlands...just a matter of getting buried now. The Muzzies will be more than happy to take care of that too.

[ryan71]

Pretty much gives “honor killings” the green light, too.

[Pearls Before Swine]

OK, they will recognize incoming polygamistic relationships that would be valid in other countries.

So, the question arises, if you are Muslim and have entered the Netherlands, is your "right" to further multiple wives cut off forever? What if one dies -- can she be replaced? Once accepted, can you go to a Muslim country that recognizes multiple marriages and pick up a recognized "vacation marriage?" Will it be recognized on your return? If so, why can't non-Muslim Dutch citizens--rappers and the like--get in on this deal? Wouldn't it be religious discrimination if they couldn't?

Its a slippery slope (pun partially intended).

[Tamar1973]

If they are accepting marriages which took place BEFORE immigration, then I *might* understand the accomodation or mercy. If the Dutch are talking about recognising marriages AFTER emigration, then the Dutch need to seriously rethink this.

[weegee]

So Barack Hussein Obama Sr.’s marriage to Barry Junior’s mom would’ve been legal in the Netherlands?

[weegee]

They’d better permit polygamy for everyone or they will find the breeding rates among muslims with multiple wives out pacing all other groups.

[MrB]

Hey, I’m sure the Muzzies are going to show the Dutch the same level of tolerance when they get majority power!

[muawiyah]

Clue ~ maybe you can’t find his birth certificate because it’s in Nederland! (Bwahahahahaha!)

[BatGuano]

An example of what is happening in the rest of the world, giving in to Muslim customs. Think what those Arab countries would be like if they had not the good fortune of sitting on all that oil! They would still be in tents, roaming the desert killing each other.

There must have been a very good reason that my ancestor left Holland in 1659 and settled in Brooklyn, Nieuw Amsterdam.

[ASA Vet]

maybe you can’t find his birth certificate because it’s in Nederland!

Maybe, when did the Nederlands give up Indonesia?

[reaganaut1]

“If they are accepting marriages which took place BEFORE immigration, then I *might* understand the accomodation or mercy.”

I don’t think the country benefits from admitting such people. I don’t know how Dutch social benefits work. In the U.S., when a husband dies, his wife may be eligible for some Social Security benefits, and if she still has minor children, so are they. For a polygamous family, should all the wives and their children get such benefits? It would be grossly unfair only for people of certain religions to get vastly more benefits than others. If the same benefit were *divided* among all the wives, that would remove one objection, but I’d still have many others.

[facedown]

Good grief!

[ASA Vet]

Nevermind, I googled it myself. Dec 1949.

[apocalypto]

We already have gay marriage in some states, polygam will follow.

[TheThinker]

Goodbye, Europe. Guess the Marshall Plan was a waste after all.

[weegee]

Laura Ingraham was a repeat this morning but I caught part of an interview with some figure from an American muslim organization (not CAIR).

There were a couple of guests and they were debating the meaning of different passages of the koran. And one that came up was the submission of the “people of the book” the the muslim masters and paying additional taxes. The flunky was trying to say that another passage about no religious requirement (not the right word) negating it but he DID concede that in a muslim majority nation the non-muslims were required by Islamic law to submit.

And it doesn’t just have to be historically muslim nations, he also included Indonesia as an example of a muslim nation that is tolerant of other faiths.

Ultimately it is an imperialist theocracy. It lays claim to land and is reluctant to surrender any territories to other ideologies. It is discriminatory. If the West applied the same tactics to Islam that Islamic nations apply to other religions (restrict or prohibit the practice) all Imam agree that would be a trigger for jihad in those nations.

[ComeUpHigher]

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Just ask Hugh Hefner and his three live-in girl friends at the Playboy Mansion. He’ll tell you its a much better deal than the antequated institution of marriage, whether monogamous or polygamous.

[El Gato]

They’d better permit polygamy for everyone or they will find the breeding rates among muslims with multiple wives out pacing all other groups.

Not really, the Catholic Mexicans, and the Mormons, even the non-polygamist ones, will give them a run for their money.

What counts is the number of babies per woman. With more than one woman to for the men to stand stud for, overall rates might actually be a bit lower than they otherwise would be.

The bad news is that all the surplus males make great holy warriors. And they are by definition, expendable.

[Centurion2000]

ROTTERDAM, 12/08/08 - Although polygamy is banned in the Netherlands, the marriages of Muslims who have several wives are recognised by Dutch authorities.

Nice, religious discrimination in plain view.

[El Gato]

Maybe, when did the Nederlands give up Indonesia?

The day I was born. November 2

1949.

The Indonesians declared their Independence when the Japanese, who controlled the Islands at the time, surreneded. The Dutch, with British and Austrialian (Including British Indian forces) tried to put recover the Dutch East Indies, but were pretty much unsuccessful.

The founders of modern Indonesia had collaborated with the Japanese, in an attempt to win independence. They wouldn't have gotten it from the Japenese, if the allies hadn't kicked the Japanese back to their ancestors.

[knighthawk]

I know, it’s that bad, and it’s been going on for years and years and no one knew about it until now.

[palomonte]

hopefully the muzzies won’t try to clean up Amsterdam.

that would be the last straw as far as I’m concerned.

[knighthawk]

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

[Candor7]

Well lets REALLY think about this. Here in American there are only a few genuine men left. Most of the men around these days are gurly men.

As a conservative we must acknowledge this fact, along with the idea that all those women out there only have a minority of real men to select from in terms of marriage. We really do need to spread ourselves around!

What better way than to evolve towards polygamy? At least that will give all those seeking women out there a chance to have a piece of a real man!

I am sure that President Obama would see the wisdom in this, just as his father would have!

FReepers for Polygamy PING!!!!

After all Bill Henrickson has 3 wives! ( sarc./off)

They all look so happy on the TV program "Big Love." What IS he saying? "Who is on for tonight?"

[dennisw]

(Islam) The Downfall of the Netherlands- Land of the Naive Fools

[VOA]

Netherlands Recognises Polygamous Marriages of Muslims

Well, the Islamics have not only won a victory; they've learned a lesson.

Drive an elected legislator (and Muslim apostate) from the country
with threats of death and dimemberment.

Murder a caustic bad-boy film-maker in the middle of the street
and in broad daylight, pinning your Islamic manifesto with a
Bowie-sized knife plunged into his body...and what do you get?

Infidels that come running and bending over for you.
Willing to let you do anything you want. In a country they were
kind enough to let you in.

And they are your scared, but cooperative, allies, helping to
help you turn your adopted country into just another soiled catbox.
Like the Islamic "republics" you fled from.

Anyone that thinks the Islamics are stupid...should study the
Netherlands. It's a lesson in how to take over a country without
firing very many shots. And only occassionally weilding the blade
for Allah.

[ZULU]

The Dutch have just left the realm of Real Men and joined the Euroweenies.

[Fred Nerks]

They all look so happy on the TV program "Big Love." What IS he saying? "Who is on for tonight?"

that program is also showing in Australia, as soon as I became aware the background was connected to polygamy I had no interest in ever watching it. I don't know what the agenda is, but suspect there's a movement afoot to make the subject matter less objectionable than what it is, to the public. It's connected, in my mind, to the fLDS controversy.

If the US doesn't come to grips with polygamy as practiced by fLDS - that opens the door to muslim polygamy - and that's why IMO it's important that their practices are dealt with. fundamental LDS has it's roots in Mohammadanism:

The Coincidental Similarities Between Islam and Mormonism. SOURCE LINK.

...The similarities between Islam and Mormonism may be much more than coincidence. There is a strong indication that Joseph may have studied Islam, just as he studied Masonry, Judaism and Catholicism, and incorporated bits and pieces of all four religions into Mormonism. Consider the following quote:

If the people will let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was “the Alcoran [Qar’an] or the Sword.” So shall it eventually be with us — “Joseph Smith or the Sword!”[17]

[sheik yerbouty]

The jihadist cancer has gone into a fully metastatic phase..

[Dajjal]

cultural jihad bump

[Clemenza]

You realize that there are still some old Dutch churches left. Many descendants of Dutch colonists were farming in southern Brooklyn through the 1940s:

[BatGuano]

Yes, I do. My ancestors moved over to New Jersey after a few generations in Brooklyn. There is a genealogical society, The Holland Society of New York, whose goal is to perpetuate knowledge of the influence of the Dutch in the New World. They have a good Library, located in Manhattan.

[Candor7]

I don't know what the agenda is, but suspect there's a movement afoot to make the subject matter less objectionable than what it is, to the public.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well this is the liberal socialist agenda to put people into a frame of mind where higher order analytical thinking is "passee." Get them fixated on "Hope & Change". One good man, many women. Get a few single mothers together and start a family TODAY!!!

You acculturate the public to accept the new social model by having them explore through TV. Then you begin having interviews with the actors. And then you have interviews and publications with the activists. And then, next thing you know, any one who speaks out against the new "polygamy culture" is spreading "hate!"

Generally that is the progression.

Thats the way " gay marriage" was introduced.

Even some so called conservatives these days think that having open gays in the military is just fine! LOL. (Ask a room full of marines who have seen combat about that.Human beings in fear turn to each other, and if everyone is heterosexual, they support each other in fighting the enemy, not for their country, but for each other. Now gays would simply cling to each other and pursue their "relationships" with each other to escape the fear. Its a fact.This erodes the command structure and lowers combat effectiveness.)

With polygamy, there comes a command requirement on the part of the man to ride herd on the women. Its the only way to sort out the complex interactions between them. That diminishes women, and it is also the prime reason for the evolution for Sharia law which is so much a part of Islam. Take away the polygamy from Muslim culture, you take away the need for Sharia law.

So how do you destroy Islamofascism? Empower the women by starting a womens resistance. Arm them. Teach them to revolt against polygamy.

Of course you would not have a lack of volunteers to organize that. Call the CIA today!!!!

We are in the first stages of polygamy acceptance in America. It needs to be ridiculed.

[palomonte]

Wait ‘till they get to homosexual polygamy.