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Netherlands Recognises Polygamous Marriages of Muslims
NIS News Bulletin ^ | August 12, 2008

Posted on 08/15/2008 12:21:08 PM PDT by reaganaut1

ROTTERDAM, 12/08/08 - Although polygamy is banned in the Netherlands, the marriages of Muslims who have several wives are recognised by Dutch authorities.

Registrars in the major cities, in particular, record dozens of bigamous or polygamous marriages per year. These marriages are prohibited and an offence in the Netherlands. However, polygamous marriages that take place in countries where more than one wife is permitted, such as Morocco, are accepted, newspaper NRC Handelsblad reports.

If immigrants with several wives settle in the Netherlands, the local authorities register all the marriages. However, the Central Bureau for Statistics (CBS), where all marriages are registered nationally, removes these bigamous or polygamous marriages from its files, on the assumption that administrative errors have occurred. As a result, it is not known how common the phenomenon is in the Netherlands.

Amsterdam city council has informed the CBS that the marriages are not a mistake. "We will now investigate whether this can be regarded as a trend that was previously not recognised. If this is the case, it is out task to report this," CBS researcher Jan Latten explained in NRC Handelsblad.

"At present, it is not included in our statistics," Latten pointed out. "In the same way, we delete marriages involving fourteen-year-olds. A man with two wives just cannot exist by law."

Spokesman T. Verhoeven of the Rotterdam city council disclosed that polygamous marriages are registered almost every week. "They are simply acknowledged. It is important for us to check that the documents are authentic and that the husband does not have Dutch nationality." Otherwise the construction is illegal, Verhoeven explained.

(Excerpt) Read more at nisnews.nl ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigamy; culturalsuicide; eurabia; europeanmuslims; immigration; infiltration; islam; islamiclaw; jihad; mohammedanism; nationalsuicide; netherlands; polygamy; separatebutequal; sharia; thisistheend
One set of laws (and welfare benefits) for Muslims, another set of laws for everyone else. How do the native Dutch, some of the most intelligent and educated people in the world (see http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/NationalIQs.aspx ), benefit from so much relatively unskilled Muslim immigration? Why don't they make the husband, upon entry, specify who his *first* wife is. She should be recognized as his sole wife under Dutch law, and if he and the other "wives" don't like it, they should stay in their home country!
1 posted on 08/15/2008 12:21:08 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

When equal protection is used as justification of homosexual marriage, it opens the door for any other sort of desired marriage. Such as polygamy.

Marriage laws weren’t created by either God or state as a benefit to the couple or the two parties involved. They were created to meet the interests of God and the state.

In any event, homosexuals desiring marriage have exactly the same rights as heterosexuals desiring marriage: you can marry one adult individual of the opposite sex. The protection is equal.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 12:29:11 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: reaganaut1

This is one of the many, many reasons I left that country.


3 posted on 08/15/2008 12:29:36 PM PDT by EscapedDutch (I spent $5,000 to become a LEGAL resident of the US. If illegals get amnesty, I demand a refund!)
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To: reaganaut1

Pretty much the final nail in the coffin of the Netherlands...just a matter of getting buried now. The Muzzies will be more than happy to take care of that too.


4 posted on 08/15/2008 12:29:37 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: reaganaut1

Pretty much gives “honor killings” the green light, too.


5 posted on 08/15/2008 12:31:29 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: reaganaut1
OK, they will recognize incoming polygamistic relationships that would be valid in other countries.

So, the question arises, if you are Muslim and have entered the Netherlands, is your "right" to further multiple wives cut off forever? What if one dies -- can she be replaced? Once accepted, can you go to a Muslim country that recognizes multiple marriages and pick up a recognized "vacation marriage?" Will it be recognized on your return? If so, why can't non-Muslim Dutch citizens--rappers and the like--get in on this deal? Wouldn't it be religious discrimination if they couldn't?

Its a slippery slope (pun partially intended).

6 posted on 08/15/2008 12:38:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: reaganaut1

If they are accepting marriages which took place BEFORE immigration, then I *might* understand the accomodation or mercy. If the Dutch are talking about recognising marriages AFTER emigration, then the Dutch need to seriously rethink this.


7 posted on 08/15/2008 12:40:11 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: reaganaut1

So Barack Hussein Obama Sr.’s marriage to Barry Junior’s mom would’ve been legal in the Netherlands?


8 posted on 08/15/2008 12:43:12 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: mbarker12474

They’d better permit polygamy for everyone or they will find the breeding rates among muslims with multiple wives out pacing all other groups.


9 posted on 08/15/2008 12:44:51 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: reaganaut1

Hey, I’m sure the Muzzies are going to show the Dutch the same level of tolerance when they get majority power!


10 posted on 08/15/2008 12:45:25 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: weegee

Clue ~ maybe you can’t find his birth certificate because it’s in Nederland! (Bwahahahahaha!)


11 posted on 08/15/2008 12:48:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EscapedDutch
An example of what is happening in the rest of the world, giving in to Muslim customs. Think what those Arab countries would be like if they had not the good fortune of sitting on all that oil! They would still be in tents, roaming the desert killing each other.

There must have been a very good reason that my ancestor left Holland in 1659 and settled in Brooklyn, Nieuw Amsterdam.

12 posted on 08/15/2008 12:57:27 PM PDT by BatGuano (We're not playing Tidally Winks here!)
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To: muawiyah
maybe you can’t find his birth certificate because it’s in Nederland!

Maybe, when did the Nederlands give up Indonesia?

13 posted on 08/15/2008 1:01:32 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Tamar1973

“If they are accepting marriages which took place BEFORE immigration, then I *might* understand the accomodation or mercy.”

I don’t think the country benefits from admitting such people. I don’t know how Dutch social benefits work. In the U.S., when a husband dies, his wife may be eligible for some Social Security benefits, and if she still has minor children, so are they. For a polygamous family, should all the wives and their children get such benefits? It would be grossly unfair only for people of certain religions to get vastly more benefits than others. If the same benefit were *divided* among all the wives, that would remove one objection, but I’d still have many others.


14 posted on 08/15/2008 1:01:38 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: knighthawk

Good grief!


15 posted on 08/15/2008 1:02:38 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: muawiyah

Nevermind, I googled it myself. Dec 1949.


16 posted on 08/15/2008 1:05:26 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: reaganaut1

We already have gay marriage in some states, polygam will follow.


17 posted on 08/15/2008 1:07:31 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: reaganaut1

Goodbye, Europe. Guess the Marshall Plan was a waste after all.


18 posted on 08/15/2008 1:16:48 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: BatGuano

Laura Ingraham was a repeat this morning but I caught part of an interview with some figure from an American muslim organization (not CAIR).

There were a couple of guests and they were debating the meaning of different passages of the koran. And one that came up was the submission of the “people of the book” the the muslim masters and paying additional taxes. The flunky was trying to say that another passage about no religious requirement (not the right word) negating it but he DID concede that in a muslim majority nation the non-muslims were required by Islamic law to submit.

And it doesn’t just have to be historically muslim nations, he also included Indonesia as an example of a muslim nation that is tolerant of other faiths.

Ultimately it is an imperialist theocracy. It lays claim to land and is reluctant to surrender any territories to other ideologies. It is discriminatory. If the West applied the same tactics to Islam that Islamic nations apply to other religions (restrict or prohibit the practice) all Imam agree that would be a trigger for jihad in those nations.


19 posted on 08/15/2008 1:42:10 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: apocalypto

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Just ask Hugh Hefner and his three live-in girl friends at the Playboy Mansion. He’ll tell you its a much better deal than the antequated institution of marriage, whether monogamous or polygamous.


20 posted on 08/15/2008 1:46:51 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: weegee
They’d better permit polygamy for everyone or they will find the breeding rates among muslims with multiple wives out pacing all other groups.

Not really, the Catholic Mexicans, and the Mormons, even the non-polygamist ones, will give them a run for their money.

What counts is the number of babies per woman. With more than one woman to for the men to stand stud for, overall rates might actually be a bit lower than they otherwise would be.

The bad news is that all the surplus males make great holy warriors. And they are by definition, expendable.

21 posted on 08/15/2008 1:52:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: reaganaut1
ROTTERDAM, 12/08/08 - Although polygamy is banned in the Netherlands, the marriages of Muslims who have several wives are recognised by Dutch authorities.

Nice, religious discrimination in plain view.

22 posted on 08/15/2008 1:53:40 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: ASA Vet
Maybe, when did the Nederlands give up Indonesia?

The day I was born. November 2














































1949.

The Indonesians declared their Independence when the Japanese, who controlled the Islands at the time, surreneded. The Dutch, with British and Austrialian (Including British Indian forces) tried to put recover the Dutch East Indies, but were pretty much unsuccessful.

The founders of modern Indonesia had collaborated with the Japanese, in an attempt to win independence. They wouldn't have gotten it from the Japenese, if the allies hadn't kicked the Japanese back to their ancestors.

23 posted on 08/15/2008 2:00:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: facedown

I know, it’s that bad, and it’s been going on for years and years and no one knew about it until now.


24 posted on 08/15/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: MNlurker

hopefully the muzzies won’t try to clean up Amsterdam.

that would be the last straw as far as I’m concerned.


25 posted on 08/15/2008 2:03:44 PM PDT by palomonte
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

26 posted on 08/15/2008 2:14:52 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: reaganaut1; Fred Nerks
Well lets REALLY think about this. Here in American there are only a few genuine men left. Most of the men around these days are gurly men.

As a conservative we must acknowledge this fact, along with the idea that all those women out there only have a minority of real men to select from in terms of marriage. We really do need to spread ourselves around!

What better way than to evolve towards polygamy? At least that will give all those seeking women out there a chance to have a piece of a real man!

I am sure that President Obama would see the wisdom in this, just as his father would have!

FReepers for Polygamy PING!!!!

After all Bill Henrickson has 3 wives! ( sarc./off)

They all look so happy on the TV program "Big Love." What IS he saying? "Who is on for tonight?"

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27 posted on 08/15/2008 2:50:37 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: reaganaut1

(Islam) The Downfall of the Netherlands- Land of the Naive Fools


28 posted on 08/15/2008 3:02:15 PM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: reaganaut1
Netherlands Recognises Polygamous Marriages of Muslims

Well, the Islamics have not only won a victory; they've learned a lesson.

Drive an elected legislator (and Muslim apostate) from the country
with threats of death and dimemberment.

Murder a caustic bad-boy film-maker in the middle of the street
and in broad daylight, pinning your Islamic manifesto with a
Bowie-sized knife plunged into his body...and what do you get?

Infidels that come running and bending over for you.
Willing to let you do anything you want. In a country they were
kind enough to let you in.

And they are your scared, but cooperative, allies, helping to
help you turn your adopted country into just another soiled catbox.
Like the Islamic "republics" you fled from.

Anyone that thinks the Islamics are stupid...should study the
Netherlands. It's a lesson in how to take over a country without
firing very many shots. And only occassionally weilding the blade
for Allah.
29 posted on 08/15/2008 3:10:36 PM PDT by VOA
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To: reaganaut1

The Dutch have just left the realm of Real Men and joined the Euroweenies.


30 posted on 08/15/2008 4:45:18 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Candor7
They all look so happy on the TV program "Big Love." What IS he saying? "Who is on for tonight?"

that program is also showing in Australia, as soon as I became aware the background was connected to polygamy I had no interest in ever watching it. I don't know what the agenda is, but suspect there's a movement afoot to make the subject matter less objectionable than what it is, to the public. It's connected, in my mind, to the fLDS controversy.

If the US doesn't come to grips with polygamy as practiced by fLDS - that opens the door to muslim polygamy - and that's why IMO it's important that their practices are dealt with. fundamental LDS has it's roots in Mohammadanism:

The Coincidental Similarities Between Islam and Mormonism. SOURCE LINK.

...The similarities between Islam and Mormonism may be much more than coincidence. There is a strong indication that Joseph may have studied Islam, just as he studied Masonry, Judaism and Catholicism, and incorporated bits and pieces of all four religions into Mormonism. Consider the following quote:

If the people will let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was “the Alcoran [Qar’an] or the Sword.” So shall it eventually be with us — “Joseph Smith or the Sword!”[17]

31 posted on 08/15/2008 6:44:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: knighthawk

The jihadist cancer has gone into a fully metastatic phase..


32 posted on 08/15/2008 7:19:15 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: reaganaut1

cultural jihad bump


33 posted on 08/16/2008 9:21:39 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: BatGuano
You realize that there are still some old Dutch churches left. Many descendants of Dutch colonists were farming in southern Brooklyn through the 1940s:


34 posted on 08/16/2008 9:26:28 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Clemenza
Yes, I do. My ancestors moved over to New Jersey after a few generations in Brooklyn. There is a genealogical society, The Holland Society of New York, whose goal is to perpetuate knowledge of the influence of the Dutch in the New World. They have a good Library, located in Manhattan.
35 posted on 08/17/2008 11:23:53 AM PDT by BatGuano (We're not playing Tidally Winks here!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I don't know what the agenda is, but suspect there's a movement afoot to make the subject matter less objectionable than what it is, to the public.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well this is the liberal socialist agenda to put people into a frame of mind where higher order analytical thinking is "passee." Get them fixated on "Hope & Change". One good man, many women. Get a few single mothers together and start a family TODAY!!!

You acculturate the public to accept the new social model by having them explore through TV. Then you begin having interviews with the actors. And then you have interviews and publications with the activists. And then, next thing you know, any one who speaks out against the new "polygamy culture" is spreading "hate!"

Generally that is the progression.

Thats the way " gay marriage" was introduced.

Even some so called conservatives these days think that having open gays in the military is just fine! LOL. (Ask a room full of marines who have seen combat about that.Human beings in fear turn to each other, and if everyone is heterosexual, they support each other in fighting the enemy, not for their country, but for each other. Now gays would simply cling to each other and pursue their "relationships" with each other to escape the fear. Its a fact.This erodes the command structure and lowers combat effectiveness.)

With polygamy, there comes a command requirement on the part of the man to ride herd on the women. Its the only way to sort out the complex interactions between them. That diminishes women, and it is also the prime reason for the evolution for Sharia law which is so much a part of Islam. Take away the polygamy from Muslim culture, you take away the need for Sharia law.

So how do you destroy Islamofascism? Empower the women by starting a womens resistance. Arm them. Teach them to revolt against polygamy.

Of course you would not have a lack of volunteers to organize that. Call the CIA today!!!!

We are in the first stages of polygamy acceptance in America. It needs to be ridiculed.

36 posted on 08/18/2008 2:19:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: reaganaut1

Wait ‘till they get to homosexual polygamy.


37 posted on 08/18/2008 2:24:43 PM PDT by palomonte
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