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U.S. Broadband Speeds Too Darn Slow; Adoption Hits 7-Year Low
Information Week ^ | August 12th | W. David Gardner

Posted on 08/12/2008 4:01:20 PM PDT by Smogger

While U.S. broadband providers continue to boost speeds for their subscribers, they still are falling behind the broadband deployment efforts of many other nations, according to survey of 230,000 U.S. Internet users. The survey, conducted by the Communications Workers of America, indicates also that population density can be a factor in providing broadband " Rhode Island, the smallest state geographically in the union, has the fastest median download speed with 6.8 Mbps while Alaska, the largest, has the slowest at 0.8 Mbps. Internet users in the survey took the CWA's Speed Matters Speed Test.

The median download speed in the U.S. is 2.35 Mbps. Densely populated Japan has an eye-popping 63.60 Mbps, according to figures from the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation. "This isn't about how fast someone can download a full-length movie," said CWA president Larry Cohen in a statement. "Speed matters to our economy and our ability to remain competitive in a global marketplace. Rural development, telemedicine, and distance learning all rely on truly high-speed, universal networks."

States with relatively high population densities led the CWA's survey. The first ranked state was Rhode Island with 6.8 Mbps high broadband speeds followed by Delaware with 6.7 Mbps; New Jersey, 5.8 Mbps; Virginia, 5.0 Mbps; and Massachusetts, 4.6 Mbps. The slowest speeds were recorded by states with large rural populations -- Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota and Alaska.

To improve broadband reception in rural and lower-income areas, the CWA and some government and public policy organizations have suggested that the Universal Service Fund be reformed to support build-out of broadband in underserved communities.

The CWA also pointed to public-private partnerships in Ohio and Kentucky as models of state and local governments working with telecommunications companies, schools and libraries to improve broadband delivery. Kentucky's "Prescription for Innovation", launched in the primarily rural state in 2004, boosted broadband adoption in the state by an 83% growth rate compared with the national rate of 57%.

The CWA's Speed Matters project enables individual users to test the speed of their online connections by sending a request to their nearest server to measure the time it takes to receive a response. Survey data is based on tests carried out from May 2007 to May 2008. The CWA said the tests do not measure actual transfer speeds of files over the Internet.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: broadband; broadbandspeed; fakestudy; internet
What a crock by the CWA. The CWA's agenda is a piece of legislation called the Broadband Data Improvement Act, which would basically funnel government money into the hands of broadband providers.

The CWA's survey apparently consists of data from Internet users who took the CWA's Speed Matters Speed Test ( http://www.speedmatters.org/speed-test/ ). I took that test and I finished with a crummy 4.6 Mbps second according to the CWA. Meanwhile Speedtest.NET and the Speakeasy speed test place my download speed at the advertised 20 Mps I am paying for.

Hmmm.. Agenda indeed.

BTW: Speedtest.NET pegs the average download speed at NEC Big Globe Limited, who is Japan's FASTEST ISP on average, at around 24 Mbps NOT 63 Mbps.

Man, they can put ANYTHING sensational in a press release and reporters will by it hook line and sinker.

1 posted on 08/12/2008 4:01:21 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

I don’t care what Japan has. For the most part it doesn’t matter if your download speed is rated at 5Mbps or 20Mbps most downloads that I have experienced come in below 1Mbps.The fastest I have ever downloaded anything was 1.5 Mbps from a movie site and my download is rated at 11Mbps.


2 posted on 08/12/2008 4:04:29 PM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually its eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: Smogger

The availability of broadband is a huge issue in rural areas. I’m somewhat fortunate in that I do have DSL. People only 2-3 miles away have no broadband alternative but the prohibitively expensive satellite services. The decision on who gets wired and who doesn’t seems arbitrary, even capricious. There are people way out in the boondocks who have broadband, and others practically inside the city limits who can’t get it, and won’t for the forseeable future.


3 posted on 08/12/2008 4:09:15 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Smogger

This article is a crock of feces.


4 posted on 08/12/2008 4:11:35 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Smogger

It not the slow speed...the porn files are bigger, thus it just takes longer to download.


5 posted on 08/12/2008 4:11:36 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: aft_lizard

Here in CO Springs, Qwest is offering a 20 Mbps download speed -— in some areas. BFD! Let’em offer 20 Mbps surfing speed and I’ll sign up. Right its 896 Kbps max.


6 posted on 08/12/2008 4:13:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Vote --- this conservative is ambivalent to the odious Johnny Mac)
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To: Smogger

If customers demand it and are willing to pay for it, it will be built.


7 posted on 08/12/2008 4:13:57 PM PDT by meyer (...by any means necessary.)
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To: Smogger
The CWA's agenda is a piece of legislation called the Broadband Data Improvement Act, which would basically funnel government money into the hands of broadband providers.

Currently, ratepayers are subsidizing antique analog wireline providers, which is incredibly stupid. The telcos have not accounted for billions of dollars that should have been used for digital infrastructure upgrades.

The subsidies should be stopped, or at least used for digital infrastructure instead of obsolete POTS.

8 posted on 08/12/2008 4:14:21 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: Smogger

Broadband adoption/coverage has hit a milestone of sorts...yes rural access is and will always be an issue but for a huge swath of Americans if they want broadband they can get it.

That sounds like a positive but it isn’t. Like the cable companies that fleeced customers for decades while providing abysmal service and equipment, ISPs now enjoy an oligarchy and/or a de defacto monopoly and are behaving in familiar fashion.

Speeds should be much higher than they are....it is humorous to watch electronics retailers flog high-speed wireless equipment when bottlenecks exist courtesy of the ISPs.

My point is that the traffic-shaping that got Comcast in hot water and other tricks and threats from ISPs are not based in so-called fair use and anti-piracy as claimed but in a desire to avoid further investment and increases in bandwidth.


9 posted on 08/12/2008 4:14:33 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Smogger
which would basically funnel government money into the hands of broadband providers.

which would basically funnel government money into the hands of unionized broadband providers.

Fixed!

10 posted on 08/12/2008 4:15:18 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: kms61
I live in one of those areas in which broadband is unavailable. Towns only 20 miles away have it and they pay no more than I do for dial-up.

I checked into satellite but it was ridiculous. To make matters even worse, my dial-up is particularly slow. If I have to download something it usually does it at something like 2.9 KBS. Updates sometimes take hours.

11 posted on 08/12/2008 4:15:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Smogger
The U.S. is taking the lead in creating Internet II, which will make what is now referred to as “Broadband” seem like a snail. It will take some time for this new infrastructure to be available commercially, but when it is it will be a quantum leap forward.

This reminds me of the fretting in the 1980’s about us falling behind Japan in high definition TV. The Hi-Def that was being discussed was still analog, which was made obsolete by the newer digital technologies.

12 posted on 08/12/2008 4:18:49 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Smogger
Just took mine:
13 posted on 08/12/2008 4:33:26 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Smogger

My speed registered at

9975 dl kbps
1227 up kbps

Cox highspeed internet


14 posted on 08/12/2008 4:46:21 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: brityank

My Internet is running a little slow today:

Download Speed: 13477 kbps (1684.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 12714 kbps (1589.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

FIOS 20Mbps/20Mbps


15 posted on 08/12/2008 4:50:50 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: kms61
The decision on who gets wired and who doesn’t seems arbitrary, even capricious.

I grew up in rural Western Wisconsin, and the cable company said it needed a minimum of 3 subscribers per mile to be profitable. We didn't even have 3 people per mile on the average, so we ended up with satellite TV.

- Traveler

16 posted on 08/12/2008 4:54:25 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Smogger

” Densely populated Japan has an eye-popping 63.60 Mbps, “

NOT in the countryside of Japan where I be . I’ve got 1MB max and it is usually much slower - between 200 and 500KB .


17 posted on 08/12/2008 4:55:32 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Smogger

I just got FIOS 20/5. Had to replace modem already. Today and yesterday took over 20 minutes for Powerline to load. Second time I just cancelled it. Speedtest.net says I’m getting just under 20 mips for download. I’m wondering if it’s Verizon’s servers.


18 posted on 08/12/2008 4:55:39 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: yarddog

” I live in one of those areas in which broadband is unavailable. Towns only 20 miles away have it and they pay no more than I do for dial-up.
I checked into satellite but it was ridiculous. To make matters even worse, my dial-up is particularly slow. If I have to download something it usually does it at something like 2.9 KBS. Updates sometimes take hours. “

I have the same problem , and I AM in Japan !


19 posted on 08/12/2008 4:57:44 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: yarddog

I feel for you. We just got DSL six months ago.


20 posted on 08/12/2008 4:59:15 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Smogger

Download 5756, upload 362

Time Warner Cable


21 posted on 08/12/2008 5:01:58 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: aft_lizard
For the most part it doesn’t matter if your download speed is rated at 5Mbps or 20Mbps most downloads that I have experienced come in below 1Mbps

Simply not true. I have a 2mbit connection at home and get 256k/sec all the time. At work, we're on a number of 20mbit pipes that can on occasion download a 100mb file in 20-30 seconds but regularly download files at 1.5MEGABYTES a second, not mbits.

I also travel extensively and the best I've seen was essentially gigabit to the desktop over the internet from another high bandwidth site. Even in central America where we have a factory, our 4mbit connection can get files at 300-400k/sec.

22 posted on 08/12/2008 5:04:43 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: kms61
The availability of broadband is a huge issue in rural areas. I’m somewhat fortunate in that I do have DSL. People only 2-3 miles away have no broadband alternative but the prohibitively expensive satellite services. The decision on who gets wired and who doesn’t seems arbitrary, even capricious.

It's a matter of technology. If WiMax lives up to its promise, it will put an end to the last-mile problem for everyone. But watch for the telcos to surreptitiously funnel money to the flat-earth lobby to file suits for "RF pollution" against WiMax broadband delivery.

23 posted on 08/12/2008 5:12:03 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Smogger

Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe some consumers are satisfied with the speed they already have, or simply don’t want to spend more to get higher speed? I still have friends on 28k dialup! They are happy with what they have.


24 posted on 08/12/2008 5:15:09 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Smogger

I guess pr0n demand just isn’t as high here...


25 posted on 08/12/2008 5:17:57 PM PDT by Doohickey (Wingnut: A small, dense object that spins easily (See: Obama, Barack))
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To: Smogger

12-13 MB on a 20MB line is abominable; looks as if there’s a throttle there someplace.

Verizon’s been pushing FiOS here too, but I don’t see the need to pay more than double my DSL price — I don’t have a need for it, and they already get too much for my Metro house phone and cellular.


26 posted on 08/12/2008 5:19:00 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: All
I have Bellsouth's DSL Extreme 6.0. Supposedly 6M/512K down/up. I mean, c'mon! 512K upload? Shades of ISDN!
Best I've ever got is a little over 4M DL and 450K UL. www.dslreports.com/speedtest is a great place to test your DSL speed.
As I play online games more than I surf, I prefer a straight connection to asymetrical, so I'd rather have a good cable-modem connection. I don't know how they are now (I hear bad things), but Charter Communications had a great cable-modem setup (for games) years ago.
27 posted on 08/12/2008 5:33:22 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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To: Smogger

28 posted on 08/12/2008 5:35:27 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: NCjim
Speakeasy - Speed Test from Moses Lake, WA.

Northland Cable TV - Broadband
NCTV

Washington, D.C.
Download Speed: 5981 kbps (747.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 245 kbps (30.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

Seattle, WA.
Download Speed: 5472 kbps (684 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 246 kbps (30.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

Atlanta, GA.
Download Speed: 5993 kbps (749.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 231 kbps (28.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

I could pay more for faster Broadband.


Speakeasy - Speed Test

29 posted on 08/12/2008 5:52:29 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: kms61
The availability of broadband is a huge issue in rural areas.

It's called "making a lifestyle decision". i just bought an old house that had to have cable strung to the house from the road - it had never been installed. But you had better believe thAT I checked on availability before buying the place. I'd live without flush toilets before I'd go back to dialup.

30 posted on 08/12/2008 5:52:49 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Smogger
States with relatively high population densities led the CWA's survey. The first ranked state was Rhode Island with 6.8 Mbps high broadband speeds followed by Delaware with 6.7 Mbps; New Jersey, 5.8 Mbps; Virginia, 5.0 Mbps; and Massachusetts, 4.6 Mbps

Virginia is not densely populated.

31 posted on 08/12/2008 6:00:19 PM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: facedown

Advertized 6MBS line. 80 miles from the ISP and an end of line user. This DSL smokes compared to dialup. I hooked this up last Tuesday and am very happy with it now.

32 posted on 08/12/2008 6:19:54 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Praying for Reign)
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To: NCjim

Download 13540
upload 741

Time Warner Turbo


33 posted on 08/12/2008 6:31:00 PM PDT by arjay (I would rather be right than consistent.)
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To: Smogger

These kids today... They’re spoiled freakin’ rotten.

Maybe everybody should have to spend their first ten years on the old Arpanet at 9600bps. Then they’d appreciate what they have.


34 posted on 08/12/2008 7:45:16 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Drango
the porn files are bigger,

Actually they are quite compressed at first, they get larger...oh nevermind.

35 posted on 08/12/2008 7:47:18 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Ramius

LOL! 9600... Good times. I practically stole my first 9600 baud modem, a U.S. Robotics. Well actually I DID steal it, but that’s another story. That’s nothing a few of us remember when you had to steal the Internet, only colleges and military installations had it.


36 posted on 08/12/2008 11:25:21 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: brityank

That's a little more like it. FIOS is the best thing since sliced bread, and worth every penny ($50) if you do a lot of downloading (I do.)

I just want everyone to know I pwn your download and upload speeds ;-)

37 posted on 08/12/2008 11:28:42 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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