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Serbia: South Ossetia conflict, result of Kosovo's seccession, analysts claim
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Posted on 08/11/2008 11:11:31 AM PDT by kronos77

Belgrade, 11 August (AKI) – The deadly conflict between Russia and Georgia in the breakaway province of South Ossetia is an indirect result of Kosovo's declaration of independence in February, Serbian analysts and politicians said on Monday.

“If there wasn’t a ‘Kosovo precedent’, as the greatest world powers headed by the United States called the secession of a part of Serbian territory, there wouldn’t have been a war in South Ossetia,” Oliver Ivanovic, Serbian government official in charge of Kosovo told the Belgrade daily Blic.

Ivanovic said that Kosovo's example was “inspiring to South Ossetia, so they wanted to strain relations and to define their position.”

Georgia wanted to solve the problem of separatist South Ossetia by the use of force, just like Serbia had tried to do in Kosovo in 1999, he explained. .. Commentator Dragan Petrovic told Tanjug news agency that the United States had encouraged a conflict between Russia and Georgia to strengthen its influence in the region.

“The Americans want to drive a wedge between Georgia and Russia to improve their position in the area because of an oil pipeline, future actions against Iran, to isolate pro-Russian Armenia and to encourage the aspirations of the Muslim population in the North Caucasus,” Petrovic said.

Former Serbian foreign minister Goran Svilanovic said he now saw Georgia as a “Russian sphere of interest”.

He said it will soon “become clear to everyone in Russia, Georgia and the countries in the region”.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; clintonlegacy; geopolitics; georgia; kosovo; ossetia; serbia; southossetia; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime
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To: elhombrelibre
"You believe the US stole land in Serbia? You're really out there. Are you happy with Putin as he helps Iran become a nuclear armed power?"

Of course we did. We stole it and gave it to Muslim terrorists and criminals. If you believe otherwise, it is you who are "really out of it".

Just because we point out that Clinton behaved like a tyrant doesn't mean we think Putin isn't a tyrant as well. Sadly most politicians behave as tyrants if they get the opportunity. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."
41 posted on 08/11/2008 12:54:43 PM PDT by monday
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To: wideawake

The Basque should have their own republic. They have their own separate language appart from spanish and their cultural ties are totally different from either Spain or France.


42 posted on 08/11/2008 12:58:42 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood
The Basque should have their own republic.

No they shouldn't. Terrorism should not be rewarded with sovereignty.

They have their own separate language appart from spanish and their cultural ties are totally different from either Spain or France.

As an American I don't buy into the notion that the determinative factors in nationhood are language or race.

Basque culture is not practically distinguishable from Spanish culture or French culture.

Basques, Spaniards and French all live pretty similar lives in the eyar 2008.

43 posted on 08/11/2008 1:01:55 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: monday

Agree - our support of Kosovo independance was very wrong.

Kosovo became predominantly ethnic Albanian way after WWII because of illegal immigration AND major ethnic cleansing of the Serbs living in the region.

BTW - the Kosovo region has ties to Serb culture/ethnicity back over 1000 years. And as the Serbs were cleansed from the territory, the Kosovars would destroy churchs that were centuries old (including some over 1000 years old) and replace them with mosques.

A parallel in our country would be for illegal immigration to happen in eastern Massachusetts (let’s assume Mexican, for this exercise), and after achieving a majority population (thru murder and terror tactics to displace the original people - then the Mexican group wanted “Independence”. Our claim on that territory (Plymouth Rock and all) - would be less reliable than the Serb claims on Kosovo territory.

BTW2 - Kosovo region is a rich with natural resources.

BTW3 - Kosovo has a region that is still majority Serb, but won’t allow it to break away and join Serbia.


44 posted on 08/11/2008 1:02:16 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: monday

Gori is his birthplace.


45 posted on 08/11/2008 1:10:53 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: wideawake

The area controlled by “The Republic Of South Ossetia” with Russia’s help is smaller than the New Jersey county I live in. Its population is half the size of the population of the suburban township I live in.

At a certain level it becomes farcical - and “The Republic Of South Ossetia” is way below that threshhold.

What in heavens name is your point? Even if it is the size of a postage stamp it is still trying to break away. It sides with Russia. It appears that small as it is, it is of great interest to both Russia and Georgia, enough to start a war over. So what is your point? Do you have one? You may think it farcical, but it is happening nevertheless. Can you not see the obvious?


46 posted on 08/11/2008 1:31:58 PM PDT by flaglady47 (South Ossetia = Kosovo - thanks Bill Clinton)
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To: flaglady47
So what is your point?

My point is that this is purely a Russian pretext.

The "Republic Of South Ossetia" would not be conceivable except for Russian agitation.

45,000 people in a nation of 4 million would never even think of starting a separatist movement unless it was financed, sponsored and fostered from the outside.

47 posted on 08/11/2008 1:35:00 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

“As an American I don’t buy into the notion that the determinative factors in nationhood are language or race.”

The problem with that statement is that probably 90%+ of the world population does.


48 posted on 08/11/2008 1:40:05 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: wideawake

Yet where would the internet be today without Vanatu!


49 posted on 08/11/2008 3:28:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vineyard
The only appreciable natural resource in Kosovo is grass. It feeds goats. Several years back I discovered that this relatively small chunk of land is so prolific (when it comes to goats) that they provided the majority of young goats to the Middle East, and at a premium price.

The root of the dispute is very recent and undoubtedly has something to do with goats.

50 posted on 08/11/2008 3:33:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Kosovo is rich in minerals and mining capabilities.
51 posted on 08/11/2008 4:16:18 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ( MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Could be. On the other hand you have to have considerable capital investment to dig the stuff up.

Goats are a best bet for the place in the near future.

52 posted on 08/11/2008 4:21:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wideawake

How conceivable is the “nation” of Kosovo or even Bosnia without NATO troops?

What goes around, comes around.


53 posted on 08/11/2008 6:23:44 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: muawiyah
The only appreciable natural resource in Kosovo is grass.

I'd suggest you research the Trepca mines so you won't say such silly things in the future.

54 posted on 08/11/2008 6:24:51 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: elhombrelibre

“I’ve been to Kosovo. What we’ve done there is in no way comparable to what Russia is doing to Georgia. You are the ignorant one supporting by your remarks Putin’s right to bully his neighbors by comparing to the US’s recognizing Kosovo is absurd.”

You are right. The Russians haven’t bombed Georgia for 78 days yet...they haven’t been bombed back to the ‘stone age’ as the US military heads were saying at the time...I guess we’ve got a ways to go yet....


55 posted on 08/11/2008 6:54:03 PM PDT by Celebratelife008
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To: muawiyah
Maybe nuclear goats perhaps, especially after all the DU that's dumped everywhere.

Trepca has rich metal deposits and just before NATO's terrorist campaign, Serbia had inked a deal with a Greek firm to help extract it. Then NATO made up some bullshit about Trepca polluting the environment to justify taking it over, actually, the first lame excuse was the Serbs were burying Albanians there which turned out to be a lie.

Jamie Shea and the propaganda brigade was in full force that year.

56 posted on 08/11/2008 7:49:11 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: wideawake

“The population of Kosovo is 2.1 million. The population of South Ossetia is maybe 50,000 Ossetians and 30,000 Georgians.
South Ossetia isn’t a breakaway republic. It is a couple of towns.”

...and Liechtenstein? Monaco? Gibralter? Their population too small to qualify them to be an independent country?
Get real. Get a good argument for goodness sakes.

What is good for the Albanians of Kosovo is good for any people that want to separate from a sovereign nation and form their own country...that is what the US supported with a relentless 78 day bombing...maybe the Georgians will get off a little easier than the Serbs did at the hands of the US and NATO....


57 posted on 08/11/2008 8:08:09 PM PDT by Celebratelife008
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To: Celebratelife008

Heh and Montenegro only has about 650,000. Wideawake was just caught sleeping.


58 posted on 08/11/2008 8:09:39 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: kronos77
...I'm sure Kosovo was a contributing factor, but I think it was the announcement in April that Georgia and Ukraine would eventually join NATO, that prompted Russia to engineer a pretext to remove Georgia's pro-western government and replace it was a Soviet-style satellite regime.
59 posted on 08/11/2008 9:22:17 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: kronos77

Stalin was an Ossetian and the Ossetians helped him and the Bolsheviks conquer Georgia for Communism.


60 posted on 08/11/2008 11:13:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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