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HITLER INVADED SUDETENLAND; NOW PUTIN INVADES SOUTH OSSETIA
Dickmorris.com ^ | August 11, 2008 | Dick Morris

Posted on 08/11/2008 8:59:22 AM PDT by Fred

On October 3, 1938, Adolf Hitler’s armies marched into Sudetenland, a part of Czechoslovakia. Germany said it was responding to separatist demands from the large German population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Germany. Hitler’s tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.

On August 7, 2008, Vladimir Putin’s armies marched into South Ossetia, a part of Georgia. Russia said it was responding to separatist demands from the large Russian population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Russia. Putin’s tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.

Encouraged by his occupation of Sudetenland, Hitler continued his designs on Czechoslovakia itself and invaded the rest of the nation a few months later.

Will history continue to repeat itself?

Georgia is one of the two countries that have split off from the old Soviet Union and most firmly reached out to the West. Now Putin is testing whether the west will respond to an overt Russian military attack on a part of Georgia, doubtless paving the way for a full scale invasion, perhaps in the coming days. One immediate Russian move would be to use its new found military leverage to force Georgia to give up Abkhazia, another province with a large Russian population.

Russia has encouraged migration by ethnic Russians into its satellite empire ever since Stalin’s days and now is using the provinces with large Russian populations to foment discord in nations that lean to the West.

The United States and the European Union must not turn away at this crucial moment in history. The U.S. should take visible steps to bolster Georgia, including the dispatch of supplies, materials, and other manifestations of our determination not to let this nation be invaded.

Russia’s goal in this imperialism is to intimidate any nation on its borders into rejecting overtures from the west and to try to prove that the west will offer no real protection against Russian military designs.

NATO should speed consideration of Georgia’s application for admission and should extend its security umbrella to include the struggling democracy.

If the United States appeases Russia now, it will pay the same price British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain paid in the 1930s. This invasion must not be allowed to stand or, at the very least, it must be contained to South Ossetia and not allowed to lap over into the rest of Georgia.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: dickmorris; geopolitics; georgia; oil; ossetia; putin; russia; southossetia; turkey; war

1 posted on 08/11/2008 8:59:22 AM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

Typical Dick Morris over the top rhetoric.


2 posted on 08/11/2008 9:01:02 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: Fred
Yesterday I thought Bush and Putin had agreed to let Russia deal with Georgia, the US to deal with Iran.

Today I am not so sure, perhaps this is a signal from Russia for the US to NOT deal with Iran.

Will Turkey mobilize as a threat?

3 posted on 08/11/2008 9:02:07 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Fred

Has that moron Obama made any statements on any of this, or is he too busy raising campaign funds and visiting his typical white grandmother who lives under the bus?


4 posted on 08/11/2008 9:02:14 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: mass55th
Has that moron Obama made any statements on any of this, or is he too busy raising campaign funds and visiting his typical white grandmother who lives under the bus?

His moronic response, in which he basically waffles on the issue:

I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.

5 posted on 08/11/2008 9:04:38 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: mass55th

He is shaking the dust off his red pom-poms, and looking in the mirror to see how his Che cap looks.


6 posted on 08/11/2008 9:05:46 AM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Fred
I thought we beat him up on this question last night.

The deal is that South Ossitia is full of Russians. Just one of those little border anomalies not taken care of at the time the breakup of the USSR.

Again the Russian Army demonstrated it ain't what it used to be (if it ever was) by going in and blowing up the Russians first.

7 posted on 08/11/2008 9:07:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fred
Wrong analogy, this is the Anschluss.
8 posted on 08/11/2008 9:09:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Fred
NATO should speed consideration of Georgia’s application for admission and should extend its security umbrella to include the struggling democracy.

Too late Dicky, NATO is not going to expand it's charter to a nation all ready attacked. However, it might do to expand NATO to cover the rest of Eastern Europe and Central Asia. If NATO had quit dragging it's feet out of fear of Russia, Georgia would all ready be in NATO and this would never of happened.

9 posted on 08/11/2008 9:13:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Fred

Springtime for Putin and Russia, winter for Georgia.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 9:14:16 AM PDT by AU72
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To: muawiyah
The deal is that South Ossitia is full of Russians. Just one of those little border anomalies not taken care of at the time the breakup of the USSR.

Would that also explain Russia now moving beyond South Ossitia into Georgia?

11 posted on 08/11/2008 9:16:18 AM PDT by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: Fred
This invasion must not be allowed to stand or, at the very least, it must be contained to South Ossetia and not allowed to lap over into the rest of Georgia.

Too late.

12 posted on 08/11/2008 9:17:06 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Crazieman

Typical crap from an anti-McCain guy, too.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 9:23:40 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Fred
On August 7, 2008, Vladimir Putin’s armies marched into South Ossetia, a part of Georgia. Russia said it was responding to separatist demands from the large Russian population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Russia.

Putin has never forgiven us for what we did to them in Afghanistan. We can look on this as the continuation of Charlie Wilson's War.

14 posted on 08/11/2008 9:26:03 AM PDT by scouse
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

There is no way that Russia trades Georgia for Iran. Iran is their most important proxy army in the middle-east and they have invested billions into that criminal empire.


15 posted on 08/11/2008 9:27:48 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Crazieman

Over the top?? He’s right on target in this column.


16 posted on 08/11/2008 9:28:43 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Now that Putin has consolidated his power in such a way that
guarantees he can keep it as long as he wants it , he is now
setting his sights on his grand plans for the world.

Georgia is a test. Ukraine will be next and then it’s on
to probally Israel.

I also believe he and Iran has a nasty little plan for the U.S.

Now is the time to act. Bush the republican may become the chamberlain of our time if he appeases him as I believe he will ..


17 posted on 08/11/2008 9:30:41 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: mass55th

Obama is golfing in Hawaii and posing for the paparazzi.


18 posted on 08/11/2008 9:32:24 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("You don't eat meat, and drive electrical cars. Ur so gay, you don't even like boys.")
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To: Fred

Bush takes a weekend in another country;

Putin takes a country in a weekend.


19 posted on 08/11/2008 9:33:57 AM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: scouse

I knew that someday, Russia was going to want payback for that humiliation.
And even worse, when we went into Afganistan a few years ago, we wiped out the taliban in a couple of months, and did what Russia couldn’t achieve in all the years they were there. Talk about embarrassing.

Now its a different situation because Russia was trying to permenantly occuy and annex Afganistan into the USSR, and we tried to keep them an independant country which makes things easier, but from Russia’s viewpoint, the US kicked in them in the national pride nads twice.


20 posted on 08/11/2008 9:34:29 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: RED SOUTH

Meanwhile, Bush is hanging out with the women’s volleyball team in Beijing.


21 posted on 08/11/2008 9:36:07 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Yes, Mr. Pickens, we CAN drill our way out of this.....)
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To: CholeraJoe
"Obama is golfing in Hawaii and posing for the paparazzi."

You'd think for someone who wants to be the leader of this country, that he'd have some comment about it all, but he's busy doing other things. Must be a black thing. Being a typical white person, I just wouldn't understand it.

22 posted on 08/11/2008 9:37:24 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: CholeraJoe

And our president is having a ball waving the flag at the Olympics, our congress is watching ball games and drinking beer on vacation at the beach, etc., and Europe is facing a repeat of 1938.

Everyone should get back on the job immediately.

Putin is far more dangerous than Iran because he is much much smarter.


23 posted on 08/11/2008 9:38:39 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
To your #3

It appears that there is a Turkish frigate off the coast at Batumi, in Georgian waters. The Israelis had advisers in Georgia, but it sounds like they are being pulled out. Russia has singled Turkey, Israel and Ukraine out as supplying the Georgian “criminals” in their aggression. Aug 10, 2008 - 10:04 pm

What next?

The comments from the linked article are quite good.

24 posted on 08/11/2008 9:40:59 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme (Nobody gets a free ride on calling our boys losers.)
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To: Crazieman

Russia is a joke in comparason with US when it comes to staling people’s welth... US and GB are the master who say one thing to get in oil reach country and then you cannot get them out ever , just look current building of 17 US bases along the oil pipe routes in Iraq...


25 posted on 08/11/2008 9:44:41 AM PDT by Los_Angeles
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To: Los_Angeles
Russia is a joke in comparason with US when it comes to staling people’s welth...

That's because we're so good at stuning their bebers.

26 posted on 08/11/2008 9:45:48 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Fred

NATO invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia invades Georgia.

Sorry, but the precedent for this is U.S. Slavophobic policy in the Balkans.

Russia at least has the sense to invade on behalf of its own clients. We trashed the relevant parts of international law on behalf of Al Qaeda clients.


27 posted on 08/11/2008 9:46:34 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: RED SOUTH
Isreal isn't next after Ukraine. Albania and Azerbijan is. Thats were all the oil is and the routes to get it to market.

Putins strategy has been very obvious for years. He wrote a thesis on it which ripped off some US economics professor paper on the same thing. Basically. He who controls all the energy, makes the rules in this century. He's shaped his entire countries future around this.

This is how Putin believed he could return the USSR to its past glory and reclaim all that they had lost. Remember Putin's speech were he said the collapse of the USSR was the biggest modern catastrophe that had occured in our lifetimes? He truely believes that. Ofcourse, Eastern europe had another opinion, but that's what Putin still believes and now that he has an endless supply of petrol dollars to fund his plans and expand the military, we are starting to see it implemented.

28 posted on 08/11/2008 9:52:53 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Los_Angeles

Signed up today Troll! Bye bye!

IBTZ!


29 posted on 08/11/2008 9:54:12 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: The_Reader_David

And I might add WE ARE STILL FRIGGIN THERE!!! Should have never been there ever. These worthless so called democratic European countries have got to start pulling their own weight.


30 posted on 08/11/2008 9:57:47 AM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism)
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To: Los_Angeles

IBTZ


31 posted on 08/11/2008 9:59:35 AM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: mass55th

obama is in Hawaii memorizing his next “speech” so he can “shine” on MLK day.

Obama has to gather his energy...he has a huge speech to read, re-read and memorize. he knows the rap about him be a tele-prompter puppet has caught up with him.. He knows his ahhss ummsss, uhhs ahhhsss, ummms, ahhhhs, hmmm, umms, ahhhs has caught up too.

obama is preening, preaching, memorizing his speech....


32 posted on 08/11/2008 10:06:14 AM PDT by antivenom (Obama's parsed and lawyerly language is empty of any credible meaning...)
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To: Los_Angeles
Russia is a joke in comparason with US when it comes to staling people’s welth... US and GB are the master who say one thing to get in oil reach country and then you cannot get them out ever , just look current building of 17 US bases along the oil pipe routes in Iraq...

We are better at SPELLING and GRAMMAR too.

ta-ta TROLL

ZOT!!

33 posted on 08/11/2008 10:21:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Los_Angeles
just look current building of 17 US bases along the oil pipe routes in Iraq...

That is an eminently sensible thing to do.

34 posted on 08/11/2008 10:44:36 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: The_Reader_David

That is exactly how I read the situation. We screw serbia, a russian ally and they screw Georgia, our ally.
I am not a russian apologist, but we are being hypocritical.


35 posted on 08/11/2008 10:44:46 AM PDT by Georgia
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To: Fred

36 posted on 08/11/2008 10:50:30 AM PDT by Bobalu (If you don't want people pointing out your flaws, maybe you should work on not having any)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Yes , Albania and Azerbijan on the way but his quest for
lost glory will ultimately end in Israel. He must deliver
Isreal on a silver platter as an offering to his muslim
coalition brothers ...


37 posted on 08/11/2008 11:08:36 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: antivenom

Obama must read FR. I just heard he crawled out of his hole and made a statement on the situation in Georgia. He claims he’s been warning about the situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia for months. I’ve tried to find any statements on it that he’s made in the past, but for the life of me, there aren’t any out there. Does anyone have any info to document his claims?


38 posted on 08/11/2008 4:34:50 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Fred

Make no mistake that the Russians have their sights set firmly in taking over Georgia. The black Sea which Georgia borders has huge un tapped oil reserves that Russia I am sure seeks to controle as much as they can. For years now Russia has been seeking to use their vast oil and gas fields to controle their neigbors. They were not happy about the fact that Georgia had a major oil pipeline running through their country to the Black Sea. Plus it makes the smaller former soviet states think twice about joining NATO. I suspect they might have a problem though with the Ukraine it’s a much more vast country that had a very large portion of the military bases and weapon stockpiles when the soviet Union went under including nuclear weapons. Though I heard they let the Russians remove the ICBM’S. Who is to say they didn’t keep a few tacticle nukes.


39 posted on 08/11/2008 6:00:55 PM PDT by Thomas1016 (Russian Oil Grab)
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