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'Honor' killing comes to the US
Boston Globe ^ | 8/10/08 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 08/10/2008 4:01:47 AM PDT by MartinaMisc

NO ONE knows just how many Muslim girls and women are murdered each year in the name of family "honor," since their deaths frequently go unreported and unpunished. The cases that do come to light are ghastly. "Women and young girls are set ablaze, strangled, shot at, clubbed, stabbed, tortured, axed, or stoned to death," a United Nations report noted in 2004. "Their bodies are found mutilated with their throat slit, or they are chopped into pieces and thrown in a ditch."

The report singled out as especially horrifying the honor killing in Pakistan of "a 16-year-old girl who was reportedly electrocuted to death after being drugged with sleeping pills and being tied to a wooden bed with iron chains." Her offense: marrying a boy from the wrong community. Countless others have lost their lives for refusing an arranged marriage, wearing Western-style clothing, having a boyfriend, or even being raped.

Recently, the Saudi human rights activist Wajeha al-Huwaidar wrote a scathing essay characterizing honor killings as a scourge peculiar to the "Greater Middle East," with its entrenched culture of misogyny and male supremacy. Her article was prompted by the lynching of 17-year-old Du'a al-Aswad, a Kurdish girl stoned to death by a mob of Iraqi men. (The essay has been translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which also provides a link to a gruesome cellphone video of the lynching.) "From Pakistan and Afghanistan through Iran, the Middle East, and all the way to Morocco," Huwaidar wrote, "this entire part of the world [is full of] defeated and dejected men, whose only way to gain some sort of victory is by beating their women to death."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crushislam; honorkilling; islam; islamofascism; korananimals; mohammedanism; muslimamericans; trop; waronterror

1 posted on 08/10/2008 4:01:48 AM PDT by MartinaMisc
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To: MartinaMisc

Surely in the US, “honor killings” would deprive their victims of their human rights, and thus be a federal crime? And, by definition, there would be pre-meditation involved, so surely they would qualify for the Death Penalty?

Or would that be wishful thinking?


2 posted on 08/10/2008 4:12:38 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: MartinaMisc

Scary. Foxnews did a story about this a little while back.


3 posted on 08/10/2008 4:16:27 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
NO ONE knows just how many Muslim girls and women are murdered each year in the name of family "honor," since their deaths frequently go unreported and unpunished. The cases that do come to light are ghastly. "Women and young girls are set ablaze, strangled, shot at, clubbed, stabbed, tortured, axed, or stoned to death," a United Nations report noted in 2004. "Their bodies are found mutilated with their throat slit, or they are chopped into pieces and thrown in a ditch."

But heaven forbid that these terrorists face military tribunals under the UCMJ. I bet Danny Pearl wishes he had justice doled out by the UCMJ rather than "Sharia Law".

4 posted on 08/10/2008 4:20:39 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: DieHard the Hunter

> Or would that be wishful thinking?

Wishful thinking.

You already knew that, or you wouldn’t have asked the question.
:)

No atrocity perpetrated by Mahometan lunatics can register commensurate horror with the MSM and their fellow travelers on the Left.

Anything that destabilizes American society is good, from their perspective.


5 posted on 08/10/2008 4:21:45 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: MartinaMisc

Pre-Internet, and when I experienced the diversity that came to Miami in the 70s and 80s, there was the occasional honor killing. Most were related to “personal honor”, and involved South Americans — most notably, Brazilians.


6 posted on 08/10/2008 4:22:55 AM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: MartinaMisc

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a feminist group speak out aginst this.


7 posted on 08/10/2008 4:30:20 AM PDT by ryan71 (Boring, normal, mainstream, white guy)
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To: MartinaMisc

Sarah & Amina RIP bump!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019416.php#comments


8 posted on 08/10/2008 4:40:33 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ryan71

Ultimately feminism is NOT about women. It is about socialism and the creation of New Soviet Man.


9 posted on 08/10/2008 4:43:37 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: MartinaMisc
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights'.

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%



At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%



From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%



At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%



After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%



At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%



From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%



After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%



100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%




Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel."

– Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’.


It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


10 posted on 08/10/2008 5:04:50 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Westbrook

Bingo!!


11 posted on 08/10/2008 5:06:09 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“or would that be wishful thinking?”

I fully expect a “separation of religion and state” type of defense, thus bringing us closer to being governed by sharia-or at least letting muzzies govern themselves. In the Atlanta case, the father is claiming that the daughter violated their religioous demands.


12 posted on 08/10/2008 5:08:06 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: MartinaMisc
It must not be allowed to take root. Murder is not acceptable on the grounds of the murderer's "honor" or personal feelings. And we should inform Muslim immigrants it will not be allowed as a defense to murder in our courts.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 08/10/2008 5:09:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MartinaMisc

Anyone that thinks we are only fighting “radical” Islam is not paying attention.


14 posted on 08/10/2008 5:16:56 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: verga

Great post Verga!....please keep re-posting it whenever we have a Muslim story on F.R....we’ve got to get the warnings out.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 5:21:38 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: MartinaMisc

“17-year-old Du’a al-Aswad, a Kurdish girl stoned to death by a mob of Iraqi men.”

It takes a “real man” to stone a 17 year old girl to death. Now, “that’s” honor....


16 posted on 08/10/2008 5:42:02 AM PDT by snoringbear ('Just so to get the terminology correct; it goes like this; the federal government is the Pimp, the)
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To: MartinaMisc
How long before the New Morality of the Left brings Death by Stoning into U.S. law?

We can be sure that Supreme Court "Justices" Ginsberg, Kennedy, Souter, Stevens, and Breyer--who consider Foreign Law applicable to their decisions--are studying it carefully.

Wonder whom a President Obama would appoint to the Supreme Court...

17 posted on 08/10/2008 6:13:11 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Today Pelosi's going to save the planet. Last week she was Joan of Arc.)
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To: MartinaMisc

The silly part these groups suffer from a shortage of females so they kill them so there is even less females.

Now thats what I call dumb


18 posted on 08/10/2008 6:13:33 AM PDT by mouser (run the rats out its the only hope we have)
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To: mouser

“The silly part these groups suffer from a shortage of females so they kill them so there is even less females.

Now thats what I call dumb”

It’s the same rationale that Democrats use to justify raising taxes.


19 posted on 08/10/2008 6:32:11 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: MartinaMisc

Will the ‘liberal’ half of the Supreme Court defer to Sharia Law on this one?


20 posted on 08/10/2008 6:56:01 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: MartinaMisc

What’s the matter with you all?

We’re supposed to “Celebrate Diversity”


21 posted on 08/10/2008 7:02:01 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: MartinaMisc

Just one more part of the beautiful tapestry that is modern, multicultural America.

Celebrate Diversity!


22 posted on 08/10/2008 7:04:32 AM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: STONEWALLS

I intend to until people get sick of it or the whole world agrees with me.


23 posted on 08/10/2008 7:05:46 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: MartinaMisc

A person who would kill his own daughter has no business being in the United States.

We should have declared a moratorium on Muslim visas on September 12, 2001.


24 posted on 08/10/2008 7:24:10 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: verga

bttt


25 posted on 08/10/2008 7:26:16 AM PDT by kalee
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To: MartinaMisc

Here is one of the few things where the MSM can really make a difference: by shaming “honor” killers and their families.

That is, turn it around on them. Publish the pictures of the murderers and other family members with glaring captions like:

“Murderer Shames Family”,

“Father Kills Daughter And Destroys Families Honor”,

“Pig-Like Murderer Makes Own Family Outcasts”,

“Family Shamed By Murder Of Daughter”.

“Pictures of a family of dogs who killed honorable daughter.”

Then give follow up stories that deeply embarrass that family, not just socially but religiously. Imply that they are no longer welcome in their mosque, that they have become “unclean”.

That their children will be rejected by their peers and have no chance of marriage, and generally that their family has been cursed by the “wretched, dog-like murderer” of their innocent and upstanding daughter. That they must now leave the area, abandoning the murderer to rot in prison, because HE has shamed them so much that they can never show their faces again. They are untouchables.

The media can do this very well, making people hated outcasts, and in doing so, will stop the killings. A small price to pay for ending barbarity.

It must be done to maximize exposure to that community, and to make the community itself embarrassed that it has such “primitive” people among them.

By doing so, it will change the “social sanction”. That is, the cultural rules that they follow.

Something the MSM can do that actually helps people for a change.


26 posted on 08/10/2008 7:43:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

BTTT


27 posted on 08/10/2008 8:18:36 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: verga

“I intend to until people get sick of it or the whole world agrees with me.”

....and I’ll be applauding you all the way!


28 posted on 08/10/2008 5:24:59 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: MartinaMisc

yet another benefit of the politically correct’s multiculturalism?

Which reminds me...when the US athletes were introduced, there were alot of cheers from not just the Chinese...

doesn’t ObamaNation of Islam, the Klintoon’s and all the other hypocrats say the world hates us now?

Kinda like the tax breaks for the rich when tens of millions of liberals looked in their mailboxes and got those stimulus checks, and thought, WOW I didn’t know WE were rich! (Riiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!)

War for oil...? Really?

Rush to war...? When it was 18 resolutions over 12 years and fully 2 years after Bush took office?

Think about honor killings the next time a liberal blabbers about other cultures injecting their multiculturalism madness on us in America!


29 posted on 08/10/2008 6:13:16 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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