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Slide Show - Russian Bombardment in Georgia

The bear is back. What happened to the wonders of soft power, the new world order and all that jazz?

1 posted on 08/09/2008 11:10:06 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Comrade Putin still reigns.


2 posted on 08/09/2008 11:20:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: neverdem

Georgia has to settle here if they want to keep a part of their country intact.


3 posted on 08/09/2008 11:27:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: neverdem
The bear is back. What happened to the wonders of soft power, the new world order and all that jazz?

Bush is responding impotently because he needs Russia to keep pressure on Iran and needs Russian oil to keep gas prices somewhat reasonable. Maybe that whole soft power / new world order stuff wasn't gobbledygook after all.

5 posted on 08/09/2008 11:37:46 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: neverdem

Here is the “official” Russian order of battle for North Caucasus:
North Caucasus Military District:
20th Guards Motor Rifle Division Volgograd

10th (Mountain) Separate Brigade of Special Designation Molkino, Krasnodar region

22nd Guards Separate Brigade of Special Designation Kovalevka, Aksai, Rostov Oblast

131st Motor Rifle Brigade Maykop

136th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade Dagestan

205th ‘Cossack’ Separate Motor Rifle Brigade Budyonnovsk, Stavropol Oblast

135th Separate Motor Rifle Regiment Prokhladny, Kabardino-Balkaria

Additionally following airborne units are staged within operational range:
7th Airborne Division - Novorossiysk
76th Air Assault Division - Pskov
98th Airborne Division - Ivanovo
106th Airborne Division - Tula

Airforce units in the north Caucasus district:
4th Army of VVS and PVO, North Caucasus Military District

1st Composite Air Division - Krasnodar
559th Bomber Aviation Regiment - Morozovsk - Su-24 in service;
959th Bomber Aviation Regiment - Yeysk - operates the Su-24 and L-39C;
368th Assault Aviation Regiment - Budyonnovsk - Su-25;
461st Assault Aviation Regiment - Krasnodar - Su-25;
960th Assault Aviation Regiment - Primorsko-Akhtarsk - Su-25;
51st Air Defence Corps - Rostov on Don
3rd Fighter Aviation Regiment - Krymskaya, (ex 562nd) - Su-27;
19th Fighter Aviation Regiment - Millerovo - MiG-29;
31st Fighter Aviation Regiment - Zernograd - MiG-29;
SAM Regiments
11th Independent Reconnaissance Air Regiment - Marinovka - operates the Su-24MR;
535th Independent Composite Air Regiment - Rostov on Don - Mi-8, An-12 and An-26 in service;
ex Army Aviation component
55th Independent Helicopter Regiment - Korenovsk - Mi-24, Mi-8, reported to be in line for Mi-28[14]
325th Independent Transport-Combat Helicopter Regiment - Yegorlyskaya - Mi-26, Mi-8;
487th Independent Helicopter Regiment for battle control- Budyonnovsk - Mi-8, Mi-24;

I think there are more smaller batallion sized units stationed there, but they are still marked in to their original districts. They could add up to a division.

I assume this is enough firepower to stop any military in the world...

And here are the airfileds Russia has in the area:

Airfield Military District ICAO Latitude Longitude
Akthubinsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Armavir North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Astrakhan - Ashchuluk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Astrakhan - Privolzhskiy North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Budyonnovsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Kapustin Yar North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Korenovsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Kotelnikovo North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Krasnodar - Aviagorodok 5 North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Krymsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Kushchovskaya North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Marinovka North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Maykop North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Mikhaylovka - Lebyazhe North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Millerovo North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Morozovsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Mozdok North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Novocherkassk 14 North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Primorsko - Akhtarsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Rostov na Donu North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Sochi North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Stavropol North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Taganrog - Tsentralnyy North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Taganrog - Yuzhnyy North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Tikhoretsk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Vladikavkaz North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Volgograd North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Yegorlykskaya North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Yeysk North-Caucasian .. .. .. ..
Zernograd North-Caucasian

Layered air defense umbrellas (even though this may seem as an overkill for Georgia) in the region is crucial for Russia to dissuade any direct NATO military action. The Russian Black Sea Fleet has blockaded all sea transport, and are possibly preparing to enforce an air blockade as well. Game Set Match.

Saakashvili can take to the cellars and forests and fight a guerilla war, or he can accept any offer Russia will propose. “Georgia” will not fight Russia, way too many leaders in Georgia were Soviets once, the FSB has way too many operatives, speculation is Saakashvili is naked and bugged even inside his own command structure at this point. The political opposition in Georgia is not coalescing around the flag, but instead wavering toward puppetting the Russian line, the situation is untenable for Saakashvili, he will surrender within 72 hours, if not 24.


6 posted on 08/09/2008 11:38:02 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: neverdem

Putin’s regime reminds everybody of Nazi Germany, lashing out and conquering its neighbors.


7 posted on 08/09/2008 11:43:35 PM PDT by Tax Government (Vote for McCain, not McBambi.)
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To: neverdem

I wonder who’ll win in this lopsided contest?


8 posted on 08/09/2008 11:44:31 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: neverdem

Russian TV reporting that the Russian blockade is in place.


14 posted on 08/10/2008 12:18:06 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: neverdem

Russia out of Georgia now. Imperialist Russian occupiers of a sovereign nation. This is another Afghanistan! The Russians are in a quagmire! No more war for oil! Putin lied, comrades died. The Russians didn’t have a coalition, where is the outrage? The UN didn’t approve this war. Why did Putin rush to war? These Neo-coms are all warmongers. Make your paper-mache heads of Putin tonight and let’s take to the streets tomorrow! Notify International Answer and all the other protesters for peace!

Now let’s all hold our breath while we wait to hear any of the above directed towards the Russians.


32 posted on 08/10/2008 2:02:48 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
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To: neverdem

Sure looks like a classic pincers movement to me.


39 posted on 08/10/2008 4:33:09 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: neverdem

Yeah...I think the Europeans are collectively soiling themselves. Worse, if we don’t do something (and that something is limited militarily by the fact we’re up to our necks dealing with the ME right now, has to be done, but we are busy), then I don’t think our new Eastern European allies are going to think much of our word with regards to Russia. Putin is a sharp cookie..evil, but sharp.


47 posted on 08/10/2008 6:20:29 AM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: neverdem

Why isn’t Obama flying out there to talk with the leaders?


53 posted on 08/10/2008 7:20:32 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: neverdem

Now we know how Russia felt in 1999. We need to drop recognition of KosovO.


55 posted on 08/10/2008 7:47:18 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: neverdem
The bear is back. What happened to the wonders of soft power, the new world order and all that jazz? >>>>>>>>>>>

C'est tres passe, mon ami.

The Dem softy approach is dead in the water. Americans know that our military must be maintained and invigorated: continued don't ask don't tell, mil research on advanced weapons, and focused recruitment, increased pay ( that investment is the best we can make as a society).

This will be the result of Russian adventurism in Georgia,Iran, the Carribean, The Mediterranean, and elsewhere. They go Bear. We lock and load. Buy Raytheon and United Technologies stock!

62 posted on 08/10/2008 8:01:18 AM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: neverdem

I have never trusted the Russians. They will lie in a New York minute. Just like the Rats.


67 posted on 08/10/2008 8:47:55 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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First Georgian Russian War images becoming available
(we must support and aid Georgia)
VArious Russian and Georgian news outlets | 8 Augt 2008 | Jeff Head
Posted on 08/08/2008 10:43:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058674/posts

Georgia says Russian tanks mean ‘war’ in South Ossetia
Times Online | August 8, 2008 | Philippe Naughton
Posted on 08/08/2008 3:37:46 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058793/posts

U.S. tells Russia to pull forces out of Georgia
Reuters | August 8, 2008
Posted on 08/08/2008 10:07:02 PM PDT by Flavius
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058921/posts

Russia says has control of South Ossetia capital
Reuters (excerpt) | August 9, 2008
Posted on 08/09/2008 1:30:46 AM PDT by HAL9000
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058947/posts

Turkey agrees to supply Georgia electricity
Reuters | 8/8/08 | Orhan Coskun
Posted on 08/09/2008 5:50:08 AM PDT by a_Turk
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058994/posts

Georgia In State Of War With Russia
SKYNEWS | 08-09-08 | Sky NEws
Posted on 08/09/2008 6:55:15 AM PDT by tcrlaf
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059027/posts

Raping Georgia: Russia Invades An American Ally
New York Post | 8/9/2008 | Ralph Peters
Posted on 08/09/2008 8:17:55 AM PDT by dr_who
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059061/posts

Georgia: Russia enters into ‘war’ in South Ossetia
Telegraph (UK) | 1:29AM BST 09 Aug 2008 | Adrian Blomfield in Gori
Posted on 08/09/2008 5:29:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059223/posts

‘Invasion of Georgia’ a ‘3 a.m. moment’
Yahoo/Politico | 8/9/08 | Ben Smith
Posted on 08/09/2008 5:51:41 PM PDT by dervish
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059233/posts

Russia Rejects Cease-Fire With Georgia
CBS
Posted on 08/09/2008 5:53:37 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059235/posts

Russia’s Ceasefire Terms
Civil.GE | 10 Aug.’08 / 05:56 | Civil Georgia, Tbilisi
Posted on 08/09/2008 8:07:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059278/posts

RAW: Russian Airstrike Against Civilian Area (Plus Aftermath). (Video only)
live leak | today | unk.
Posted on 08/09/2008 10:30:40 PM PDT by robomatik
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2059316/posts

Georgia ‘pulls out of S Ossetia’
BBC | , Sunday, 10 August 2008 06:17 UK 05:17 GMT | BBC Staff
Posted on 08/09/2008 11:00:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2059326/posts


69 posted on 08/10/2008 9:06:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem
Great map. It explains most everything.

Thanks.

70 posted on 08/10/2008 10:01:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: Flavius; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; ...
Georgia special, IIRC, comment# 6 on my thread claims to have Ivan's order of battle, i.e. the Russian military units involved.

Russians Push Past Separatist Area to Assault Central Georgia-(regime change Russian turn)

Taunting the Bear ( Regarding the War over South Ossetia ) This is a good review, IMHO of course.

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73 posted on 08/10/2008 11:07:23 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Prayers for the people of Georgia.


76 posted on 08/11/2008 4:24:39 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama's manner of speaking is very self-reVerential.)
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