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When Careers End Early, It’s A Different Story ('Journalists' Whine About Layoffs)
JSOnline ^ | August 9, 2008 | Eugene Kane

Posted on 08/09/2008 4:50:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

A good friend who is also a journalist is out of a job after 20 years. She was recently laid off and isn’t sure what to do next.

“I guess I’ll freelance or teach,” is what she told me. Frankly, she didn’t seem too excited about either possibility.

Another friend took a buyout from his employer even though he already had his dream job; he wrote opinions for a living.

He knew there was a possibility his job would be eliminated months ago and started considering his alternatives. He put a lot of energy into a job search but ended up realizing nothing gave him anywhere near as much satisfaction as what he was doing. By accepting the buyout offer, he managed to provide temporary security for his family, which includes two young children. The newspaper he works for (not the Journal Sentinel) made it clear that if enough people didn’t take the buyout, the next step would be involuntary layoffs.

“I saw the handwriting on the wall,” he told me.

Last month, I attended a convention of minority journalists in Chicago, which is usually a time to mingle and catch up with old friends and colleagues from over a 25-year career. It’s a time to socialize and reflect on our lives; this year, there was also an undercurrent of panic and anxiety.

When journalist friends get together to talk shop, it can often seem like a meeting of grizzled veterans trading war stories. The truth is, most of us had just reached middle age; we’ve reached a point that used to represent a well of institutional knowledge for our employers.

But the biggest buzz at the convention was about downsizing in the media industry, mainly the hundreds of people expelled in the last six months for financial reasons. All anybody wanted to talk about was the economic whirlwind currently reshaping our world.

“Are you guys laying people off?” was what I heard again and again at the convention, which ironically also featured a job fair where some newspapers recruited our much-younger replacements into less well-paying positions.

In some respects, it’s not a new story for any of us. In fact, most reporters have covered it at least once during their career.

It’s the story about the factory closing that will plunge a town into a recession. It’s a memo from corporate headquarters about downsizing that feels like a kick in the stomach. It’s Midwest Airlines or any Milwaukee company making a somber announcement about massive layoffs.

When it happens to someone else, most reporters know what to do.

Go talk to the people involved and get their stories. Don’t make it a story about numbers; help the readers understand the human pain behind the layoffs. Explain the connection between longtime workers who think of themselves as family because they spend so much time together.

It’s as easy to write as following a template. Until it happens to you.

Last week, a group of my colleagues took buyouts and left the company. The Journal Sentinel newsroom said goodbye to another group of talented people last year in a similar “voluntary separation” plan, which I swear is what they officially call it. It was a wrenching time for longtime employees; some of us never thought it would happen again so quickly.

One of the more annoying aspects of watching coverage of the Brett Favre saga was the fixation on a single millionaire professional athlete having trouble coming to grips with the idea that his longtime employer didn’t want him anymore.

As if football players are the only ones in society who have to come face to face with that kind of reality.

There are reporters, editors, feature writers, cartoonists and columnists at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel who did their jobs just as well as Favre and offered no complaint when it was time to leave. Like I said, we’ve all covered this story before and know the real deal.

Whenever I talk to young people, I make the distinction between having a job and having a career. In my mind, a job is something you do because somebody pays you to do it; a career is the kind of thing you would probably do for free because you enjoy it so much.

When you find a career that actually pays the bills, consider yourself blessed.

I’ve lost colleagues here and across the nation in the past few months who never thought their career would close this way.

I suspect many of those friends will find their way into a new career — but not without looking back fondly on their last one. I also suspect those of us still here will never look at another business story about downsizing the same.

We’ve seen the pain firsthand now.


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Boo-Freakin'-Hoo, Eugene!

If these hacks (including you) are so TALENTED, then write a novel or earn your living writing in some other vein. I did a quick web-search and there are TONS of writing-related jobs out there.

But if you're just a HACK, pushing a boiler-plate agenda for the LibTards, you're screwed. You don't have "talent" in the first place and should be flippin' burgers.

I will give you credit though...you didn't blame "race" for journalists losing their jobs. That's a FIRST for you, LOL!

1 posted on 08/09/2008 4:51:09 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The news business is in big trouble. Newspaper circulation and ad revenue is in free fall. They are in a changing business climate.

They will have to adapt, as does anyone who has gone through layoffs or downsizings of their employer or their industry.


2 posted on 08/09/2008 4:57:21 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If you can, do...

If you can’t, teach....

If you can’t teach, be a journalist.....

If you get canned...... Ha Ha Ha


3 posted on 08/09/2008 4:57:57 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I suggest they pick up a copy of Who Moved My Cheese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese


4 posted on 08/09/2008 4:58:12 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Maybe Eugene can get a job sweeping out the Palm Beach Post offices when it finally goes belly up...


5 posted on 08/09/2008 5:01:00 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hello again, Diana, Packers fan.

Not mentioned here is the parallel story. The Drive By Media’s NOT reporting about Alpha Male Edwards. Or biased reporting of just about everything else, from the science on global warming to the war in Iraq?

If they don’t do the job they are supposed to do, what else could result?


6 posted on 08/09/2008 5:01:00 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; abb; All

OH ABB


7 posted on 08/09/2008 5:01:09 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: OCC

“Cheese Station C” = “Ice Station Zebra?” LOL!

No, I know that book. It is good. I’ve always tried to have the mindset that I’m a “Free Agent” no matter who’s currently paying me to do what.

And sometimes I HAVE been paid in cheese when bartering. Yummy! :)


8 posted on 08/09/2008 5:02:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: bajabaja

“Hello again, Diana, Packers fan.”

D@mn Skippy, I am! Thanks for remembering. Can’t WAIT for the first pre-season game Monday night. Cincinnati at hallowed Lambeau Field. (Been there once; one of Reggie’s last games. It was like being in heaven, I kid you not!)

I’m going to wear my Reggie White jersey. My #4 is in the back of the closet for the time being. Not sure when it’s coming back out...and I’m not ready to switch to #12 yet. Aaron needs to prove a few things to me first! ;)


9 posted on 08/09/2008 5:08:29 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I do not feel a bit sorry for them. If they had been printing the truth without bias, then they might have readers left. I take my hometown paper but I probably have about 40 in a garbage bag without reading them. I had rather be reading books by William W. Johnstone. He talks about the media in HUNTED and PREY. I do try to read the paper online where I grew up and a daily paper in a town near it. Still have relatives in the area so try to keep up with what is going on there.
10 posted on 08/09/2008 5:09:23 PM PDT by MamaB (Heb.13:2)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

When I went to college, I came this || close to being a journalism major. Went into electrical engineering instead, in order to get a ROTC scholarship. I never regretted that decision.


11 posted on 08/09/2008 5:10:20 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“freelance or teach.” Teach what?


12 posted on 08/09/2008 5:10:46 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I didn't realize the irony of the Wisconsin connection until after I posted. My former employer (from whom I got layed off from) distributed copies off this after the Y2K crisis blew over and the dot.bomb crisis started. I have had 3 new employers since then, each job better than the last! In the IT industry, sometimes changing jobs is the only way to get a substantial raise.
13 posted on 08/09/2008 5:11:52 PM PDT by OCC
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You have my deepest sympathy Eugene, those beer swilling, gun clinging, Bible reading, inbred yahoos are just incapable of discerning the value of your opinions and superior instructions on how they SHOULD think and act.

The government should tax them to provide subscription support for your lofty egalitarian philosophy. Oh, wait, I forgot about PBS.

14 posted on 08/09/2008 5:14:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It was like being in heaven, I kid you not! A view of Lambeau from heaven: http://www.skylinepictures.com/Green_Bay_wi14_large.jpg I am a Packers fan because of that guy, not because of Favre.
15 posted on 08/09/2008 5:15:40 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
A good friend who is also a journalist is out of a job after 20 years. She was recently laid off and isn’t sure what to do next.

[...]

In some respects, it’s not a new story for any of us. In fact, most reporters have covered it at least once during their career.

When it happens to someone else, most reporters know what to do.

Go talk to the people involved and get their stories. Don’t make it a story about numbers; help the readers understand the human pain behind the layoffs. Explain the connection between longtime workers who think of themselves as family because they spend so much time together.

It’s as easy to write as following a template. Until it happens to you.

I guess they are finding out that 20 years of writing sob stories, while heartstring tugging, really wasn't all that useful, to the subjects of the articles, or now even themselves. If they had written about how jobs are created, about people pulling themselves up by their own bootstrapps, about people planning for adversity, and ceating their own jobs, they would be much better prepared right now.

16 posted on 08/09/2008 5:16:59 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

““I guess I’ll freelance or teach,”

....best of luck...more and more young people are non readers these days...they were raised on MTV and have short attention spans....the concept of reading for pleasure is foreign to them.


17 posted on 08/09/2008 5:16:59 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
A journalist might actually have to work for a living...

Oh, the humanity!

(Obamessiah, save us from real work...)

18 posted on 08/09/2008 5:16:59 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Not one word as to why print MSM is fading into oblivion.

hmmmm


19 posted on 08/09/2008 5:17:49 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They need not worry. In Obamaland, all journalists will become government workers, paid by the taxpayers. They will toil away, at taxpayer expense, to write important stories informing the public of the wonders of Obamaland and the daily miracles performed by the Supreme and Beloved Leader. They will love the Supreme One as will we all and we will all live happily thereafter.


20 posted on 08/09/2008 5:19:48 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
When it happens to someone else, most reporters know what to do.

Go talk to the people involved and get their stories. Don’t make it a story about numbers; help the readers understand the human pain behind the layoffs. Explain the connection between longtime workers who think of themselves as family because they spend so much time together.

Exactly. Don't probe into the "numbers." Like were the jobs union so there could be no salary or benefit flexibility. What was the level of taxation that the company had to deal with? What kinds of regulations did the employer have to deal with in trying to keep the company viable? Just go for the sob stories to prove that employers are heartless and capitalism doesn't work for the poor, beleaguered worker.

21 posted on 08/09/2008 5:20:22 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
When it happens to someone else, most reporters know what to do.

Go talk to the people involved and get their stories. Don’t make it a story about numbers; help the readers understand the human pain behind the layoffs. Explain the connection between longtime workers who think of themselves as family because they spend so much time together.

Exactly. Don't probe into the "numbers." Like were the jobs union so there could be no salary or benefit flexibility. What was the level of taxation that the company had to deal with? What kinds of regulations did the employer have to deal with in trying to keep the company viable? Just go for the sob stories to prove that employers are heartless and capitalism doesn't work for the poor, beleaguered worker.

22 posted on 08/09/2008 5:20:22 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Malesherbes
“freelance or teach.” Teach what?

What else but journalism.

23 posted on 08/09/2008 5:21:48 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The problem is that the number of hate Bush, love Obama out of work hacks numbers in the tens of thousands.


24 posted on 08/09/2008 5:22:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Eugene Kane is a liberal black racist that continually makes excuses for his pet protected groups. If you’ve ever read any of his stuff, you know this.

What a whiner. Whiny Dancer.


25 posted on 08/09/2008 5:24:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: dbacks

The author didn’t seem to realize that the reason his job disappeared was that there wasn’t anything in the paper that was worth the time it took to read it. So he enjoyed writing opinion pieces, who cared what he thought? I certainly didn’t and do not now.

This latest thing with Edwards speaks volumes about what is wrong with today’s newspapers. Good riddance in most cases. They may represent the institutional knowledge of their organization, but so did the buggy whip makers.


26 posted on 08/09/2008 5:26:22 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Eugene Kane will be the last staffer left at the JS. Even then, he will claim racism as they tell him to turn out the lights when he leaves.


27 posted on 08/09/2008 5:26:42 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It kind of pales by comparison to the hundreds of thousands of us who lost jobs in the Oil and Gas Industry in the eighty’s and nineties. I was out of work for a year. Funny thing, though, none of these news folk or congress critters gave a damn. Now that we are back, we are greedy ‘Big Oil.”


28 posted on 08/09/2008 5:27:34 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The problem is that the number of hate Bush, love Obama out of work hacks numbers in the tens of thousands.

That's a good thing, the problem is that the number is not in the hundreds of thousands.

29 posted on 08/09/2008 5:27:50 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It kind of pales by comparison to the hundreds of thousands of us who lost jobs in the Oil and Gas Industry in the eighty’s and nineties. I was out of work for a year. Funny thing, though, none of these news folk or congress critters gave a damn. Now that we are back, we are greedy ‘Big Oil.”


30 posted on 08/09/2008 5:29:06 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well, there was a big retraining program a few years ago, for the loggers and miners out here in the west. Maybe there is a gubmint program to retrain “journalists” for jobs in the fast food industry. Some of them ought to be able to measure up.


31 posted on 08/09/2008 5:39:13 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Welcome to the real world where companies fire employees.


32 posted on 08/09/2008 5:39:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This is somewhat off tangent, but still about writers/print, and maybe it will provide catharsis for me.

I am a fairly enthusiastic non-fiction book reader, and go through at least one or two a week, sometimes more. I am overjoyed when I happen to come across a new book with some "heft" to it that will translate into a couple of enjoyable evenings. A shopping trip today gave me the opportunity to go into a bookstore, and I made an impulse purchase on what I thought would be a good bit of colonial American military history.

To make a long story short, I did not thumb it through well enough, and disregarded items in the author's bio that I have learned are generally danger signs. Despite the absence of bullet-point plaudits from perennial fellow sphincters such as Howard Zinn or Eric Foner (such laurels automatically make me put the book back on the shelf before some sort of ink-borne collectivist mania infects me via skin contact), the author turned out to be another self-loathing American who actually resorts to using the term "bolshie" when describing an 18th Century American attitude.

(My Andy Rooneyesque moment: "Ever notice that a Christian viewpoint is invariably suspect, but everything from the invention of the wheel to bubonic plague is somehow better comprehended when run through the filter of Karl Marx?")

So tonight I am sitting here without reading material because within less than 50 pages, the writer has managed to be a leftist tool enough times to make the book absolutely unreadable to me, and I regret that I have somehow contributed to his bank account. This has been happening lately at too brisk a pace to ignore any more, and I am at the point where these overeducated scribblers can form their own red daisy chain and count me - and my depleted by Democrat energy policy bank account - out. History writers? Bulls**t! Propaganda writers, and I don't need 'em. They might as well follow the newspaper hacks in this story into teaching, as there aren't any public (government) school standards requiring truth or reality to get in the way of a good class/race/gender warfare manifesto.

(taking deep breaths)

Mr. niteowl77

33 posted on 08/09/2008 5:50:30 PM PDT by niteowl77 (If you push too hard, you won't believe what happens next.)
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To: freekitty

They knew they went to work for a company that has an ideological agenda. They knew that ad revenue drives the company.

Companies that advertise spend their money in places that will get them the most exposure. Newspapers are driven by agenda and not real news.

Deal with it.


34 posted on 08/09/2008 5:50:45 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Cheaters and liars lamenting that life is holding them responsible for their sins. Barf.
35 posted on 08/09/2008 5:53:19 PM PDT by Vision (The light of the body is the eye, if your eye is true all your body will be full of light. Matt 6:22)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Smart talented and fair journalists will become freelancers or begin their own niche markets.

Just like the education industry which in another ten years will not be in the present form and the smart teachers will form their own schools and programs.


36 posted on 08/09/2008 5:57:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING, NOT for the GOP, but INSTEAD, for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Maybe some of them can get jobs as reporters.

Journallist = Star of the story

Reporter = A witness

37 posted on 08/09/2008 6:10:52 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: OCC

Who Moved My Cheese.

Good book.

Good advice.


38 posted on 08/09/2008 6:16:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I keep going back to “Men In Black” where Will Smith is taught by old hand agent Tommy Lee Jones to read the Weekly World News and other “trash” weeklys as their reporting was so much better than the “respected” papers... we’ve certainly seen thatthis week with silky pony...


39 posted on 08/09/2008 6:30:14 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: rllngrk33; Malesherbes
“freelance or teach.” Teach what?
What else but journalism.

I have news for them - there are plenty of people w/MAs and PhDs in communications/journalism who are looking for higher ed jobs. You don't get one because you want one.

I've been on a few search committees and have talked to others about this - just because you 1) 'love' something; 2) once did something; or 3) have read about something, doesn't make you a teacher or a scholar.

You'd be surprised at the people who apply for college jobs who have little or no background in the subject area, have no idea about teaching pedagogy, and have not read a journal or kept up with the discipline. In addition, they have no idea about the research required for professors in most schools.

Of course, we're talking journalists here - obviously research isn't their strong suit.

40 posted on 08/09/2008 7:03:16 PM PDT by radiohead (Please donate to the flooded libraries in Iowa.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There’s always that Internet thingy these these out-of-work journos could work for ;-)


41 posted on 08/09/2008 7:08:16 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I also suspect those of us still here will never look at another business story about downsizing the same.

Yes, I'm sure that in the future, these journalists will REALLY portray the heartless corporations as TOTALLY evil, capitalistic pigs who destroy families. The days of sugar-coating that message are OVER!

42 posted on 08/09/2008 7:45:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: niteowl77
History writers? Bulls**t! Propaganda writers, and I don't need 'em.

I like to read the same type of books as you do and feel the same way. Thanks for expressing my thoughts in words.

P.S. Have you ever read "Wilderness at Dawn" by Ted Morgan? Excellent read.

43 posted on 08/09/2008 8:23:40 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Retraining programs? ? ?

Like the one Bill Clinton proposed upon hearing that several hundred cattle guards were no longer needed since the Park Service was taking all the land from the ranchers.

Said ‘Our Bill’, “Set up a program to retrain those cattle guards”.


44 posted on 08/09/2008 8:25:24 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
But the biggest buzz at the convention was about downsizing in the media industry, mainly the hundreds of people expelled in the last six months for financial reasons...produce a shoddy product like today's biased, shallow, and naive "journalism", and the market will do you in every time.......
45 posted on 08/09/2008 9:21:22 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: GladesGuru

8-)

“Our Bill” indeed!


46 posted on 08/09/2008 9:21:43 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Maybe these “jounalistes” should start reporting the news instead of trying to make it.


47 posted on 08/10/2008 3:47:59 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Inyo-Mono
Thanks for the tip! I'll have to look for "Wilderness at Dawn." I used to concentrate on the Civil War and the post-1865 American West, but I finally developed an interest in the American frontier when it was from the Appalachians to the Mississippi. My history-teacher father tried to get me interested in Colonial and antebellum history, but it took thirty years to get the job done!

Two recent reads for me that weren't too bad: Walter Edgar's "Partisans and Redcoats" is a fairly good overview of militia activities Revolutionary War in the Carolinas, but it wasn't nearly long enough. M.H. Dunlop's "Sixty Miles to Contentment" was interesting in its vignettes of 19th-Century traveling America. Neither book subjects the reader to wildly over-the-top, holier-than-thou PC political posturing.

(The former has none, the latter not enough to bother me.)

Sometimes I stumble across - and enjoy - a little-known gem like David J. Peck's "Or Perish in the Attempt" (which is a D.O.'s thoughts on the medical aspects of the Lewis and Clark Expidition), but I more often bomb like I did yesterday. The days of new straight-up history books the caliber of Louis C. Hunter's "Steamboats on the Western Rivers" seem to be mostly gone. It's probably just as well, since really good, objective histories would only crowd out all the Che Guevara hagiographies and other assorted Better Red Than Read offerings at Borders or Barnes & Noble.

Mr. niteowl77

48 posted on 08/10/2008 5:21:46 AM PDT by niteowl77 (If you push too hard, you won't believe what happens next.)
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To: bajabaja

Oh, that is SO nice. Vince was ‘The One.’ What an awesome man!

“You will be fired with enthusiasm, or you will be FIRED with enthusiasm.” Love it! So many great quotes from that guy.

In my family, when you turn 40, you get an “old guy hat.” It’s one of those styles that Lombardi always wore. ;)

I’m looking ahead to better days. My Dad was a young man of 30 when the Packers won the FIRST Super Bowl ever played. I was a young woman of 30 when they next won. Our son is going on 22, so only 8 more years and we’ll have another one under our belts, LOL!


49 posted on 08/10/2008 5:50:15 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I post Eugene’s “deep, probing observations” here quite regularly. He always elicits lots of responses. He is totally transparent.


50 posted on 08/10/2008 5:53:11 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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