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Gitmo jury gives bin Laden driver 5 1/2 years
Yahoo News ^ | 8.7.08

Posted on 08/07/2008 2:31:51 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast

A military jury gave Osama bin Laden's driver a stunningly lenient sentence on Thursday, making him eligible for release in just five months despite the prosecutors' request for a sentence tough enough to frighten terrorists around the globe.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; elections; enemycombatant; gitmo; hamdan; militarycommissions; salimhamdan; scotus; terrortrials; wot
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1 posted on 08/07/2008 2:31:52 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

That’s it?


2 posted on 08/07/2008 2:32:38 PM PDT by mnehrling
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

This sends a very bad message...We are being laughed at as news of this breaks throughout the islamic world.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 2:33:29 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: mnehrling

and 5 years credited for already served. He will be out in 6mo.


4 posted on 08/07/2008 2:33:31 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

5 1/2 years = 66 months. SO HOW THE HELL COULD HE BE ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE IN 5 MONTHS, LESS THAN 10% OF THE TIME???!!!


5 posted on 08/07/2008 2:34:03 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
the panel of six U.S. military officers, hand-picked by the Pentagon for the first U.S. war crimes trial in a half century.

What is wrong with these officers? Nuts.

6 posted on 08/07/2008 2:34:19 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: AmericaUnited
and 5 years credited for already served.

Ok...

7 posted on 08/07/2008 2:34:52 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
The country has now officially gone softier!


8 posted on 08/07/2008 2:36:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: TheWasteLand

What is wrong with these officers?

That is how a justice system works. See the evidence, maybe really weak. They found him innocent of the more serious charges IIRC.


9 posted on 08/07/2008 2:36:45 PM PDT by threeoeight
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Looks like the Libtards put into the military by Clinton are still there.

Whatever happened to President Bush’s famous “If you support a terrorist, you are a terrorist.” position.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 2:37:01 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

In the mean time, our Border guards,Ramos and Compean, each got over ten years...unbelievable!


11 posted on 08/07/2008 2:37:09 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Maybe they plan to put a tail on him when he gets out.


12 posted on 08/07/2008 2:37:18 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: flyfree
So what happens when his sentence is up? Does he get released to his home? Is that what we are going to do to enemy combatant prisoners? release them when the war is still in progress so they can return to their units? Does hew get his SAM’s back too?
13 posted on 08/07/2008 2:37:19 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
Gitmo jury gives bin Laden driver 5 1/2 years

The Bush administration puts another terrorist on the streets to kill again.

14 posted on 08/07/2008 2:39:09 PM PDT by XeniaSt (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: flyfree

SO, in about 8 months he will blow up or kill some of our soldiers and help the Democrats prove the WOT is lost!


15 posted on 08/07/2008 2:39:37 PM PDT by ConfidentConservative (“I think, therefore I am conservative.”)
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To: TheWasteLand

Don’t worry. We’ll capture him in Afghanistan in 9 months, fighting against us. Then maybe we’ll do it right & not take him prisoner!


16 posted on 08/07/2008 2:40:23 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Sounds like they believe he is a low-level operative, not a mastermind terrorist.

They’ve heard the evidence. I haven’t. I’m content to trust their judgment. They are military officers, not the unemployed pulled out of a phone book.


17 posted on 08/07/2008 2:42:33 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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To: XeniaSt

“The Bush administration puts another terrorist on the streets to kill again.”

Yep that is what the Democrats with say!

Bush’s fault!


18 posted on 08/07/2008 2:43:06 PM PDT by ConfidentConservative (“I think, therefore I am conservative.”)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
Just want to understand, if he got a tough sentence the press would say it was all unfair, blah blah, but now he got leniency so it's some kind of failure blah blah. In fact articles I've seen are still trying to make it seem unfair and a failure both.

The media is major bs, this is what the tribunal decided. They are pros and that's it.

19 posted on 08/07/2008 2:45:12 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

Okay, who implanted the tracking device? Was it you, General Rove?


20 posted on 08/07/2008 2:47:26 PM PDT by mdk1960
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To: Old North State

He will continue to be held as an enemy combatant, independent of this sentence. That’s why the ACLU and fellow wack jobs area calling it a “show trial”. They’re either stupid or willfully ignorant that he’s in custody for two independent reasons.

Colonel, USAFR


21 posted on 08/07/2008 2:49:12 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

If people can’t even accept Military Jurors then there is no point of having any trials. Just kill everyone and let God sort them out.


22 posted on 08/07/2008 2:49:13 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Now our troops are just going to have to kill him on the battlefield when he gets out. And we may lose some of our guys doing it. What a cluster****.


23 posted on 08/07/2008 2:49:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
I was expecting 10 years but there is a reason for this light sentence. This guys been in the can for 6 years, the military needs some low level terrorist to go home in guilt and tell his buddies that GITMO ain't worth visiting. The higher level terrorist will get bigger sentences and also be a deterrent.
24 posted on 08/07/2008 2:50:58 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
***When the verdicts were handed down, three men were set free. Although they had been part of the leadership, the court did not think they were guilty of crimes against humanity. Nineteen men were found guilty. Twelve were sentenced to hanging, including several who were pointed out as having had a hand in the murder of Jews: Goering, Streicher, Frank, Alfred Rosenberg (who had been in charge of Jews in the eastern territories), and Arthur Seyss-Inquart (an Austrian in charge of Jews in the occupied Netherlands).***

The Nuremberg Trial

http://www.rossel.net/Holocaust14.htm

25 posted on 08/07/2008 2:54:51 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

I say we stop takling prisoners (in most cases). Just shoot these snot slinging cave dwellers on the spot so we can avoid this sort of stupidity.


26 posted on 08/07/2008 2:56:09 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Its enough to make ya sick, isn’t it?


27 posted on 08/07/2008 2:56:47 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast; RedRover; Lancey Howard; bigheadfred

5.5 years in prison....

good thing they weren’t border agents chasing a drug smuggler.


28 posted on 08/07/2008 3:00:58 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Looks like the Gitmo close-out sale is on...

If the guy had prior knowledge, is a life sentence unfair. To the relatives perhaps. I’m sure they’d have another penalty in mind.


29 posted on 08/07/2008 3:01:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

Maybe he’ll get a work-release program rinsing out Ruth Bader Meinhof’s unmentionables.....


30 posted on 08/07/2008 3:08:02 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
The only thing the jury convicted Hamdan of was driving Osama and some munitions around. The jury decided he was just a low level employee. They did not convict him of the serious charges of conspiring with Al Queda.

This was the wrong prosecution to bring first. The world is watching and they should have tried someone at least moderately important.

The jury handed down the correct sentence.

31 posted on 08/07/2008 3:10:35 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

This demonstrates why you can’t treat terrorism as a law enforcement issue, as Clinton did, as Obama and the Democrats want to do.

It also demonstrates why we can’t afford to let Obama nominate the next SCOTUS judges. Don’t forget, it’s our SCOTUS was the one who gave the terrorists all kinds of rights, they should not be entitled to have.

It is not an exaggeration to say that if the Dems take control of the US — and if Obama wins, they will control the White House, Congress, AND shortly the Judicial Branch also — their policies will cost innocent lives, our innocent lives.


32 posted on 08/07/2008 3:13:34 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Mr Rogers
On a previous thread after the guilty and before the sentence many were praising the military court as the best venue. Now many are criticizing the military court. I wish people will take a position and quit doing the “Kerry Flip Flop”.
33 posted on 08/07/2008 3:16:24 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: navyguy
cough cough, The President of the Jury is a Navy Capt. I refuse to criticize him without seeing the facts like he did.
34 posted on 08/07/2008 3:19:36 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
This raghead is so trusted by the enemy that he drives the top guy around and he gets less time than some stoner selling an ounce of weed to an undercover cop in Tampa?

Seems to me that the Bush Administration and its people in the Pentagon is completely incompetent.

35 posted on 08/07/2008 3:21:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: XeniaSt
Not really. The Bush administration said after his term is served he will be held him until they see fit.
36 posted on 08/07/2008 3:21:51 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: TheWasteLand
“Hand picked” tells it all.
37 posted on 08/07/2008 3:22:31 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: Inyokern

Maybe. I laugh how a few days ago the Left was throwing fits over the conviction.


38 posted on 08/07/2008 3:24:11 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Racist, Charismatic Leader Promises Hope, Change and Socialism? USA, 2008 or Germany, 1932?)
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To: Old North State
He'll probably get a position at an ivy league college.
39 posted on 08/07/2008 3:24:26 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: threeoeight

This shows what a disaster we see when terrorists are sent to the courts.

At the very least, he should be treated as a POW. Just leave him in a camp until all hostilities are ended. Sorry, but it is a 100 year war.


40 posted on 08/07/2008 3:24:43 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: jagusafr

That’s good news. Why did they put him on trial. Didn’t his status merit summary execuion according to convention?


41 posted on 08/07/2008 3:28:12 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: mnehrling

Well, at least the world will love us again....barf.


42 posted on 08/07/2008 3:28:50 PM PDT by roses of sharon (SAVE YOUR GAS RECIEPTS, SEND TO PELOSI!)
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To: The_Republican
Doesn't the Geneva convention say that such folks as in GITMO can receive summary execution?
43 posted on 08/07/2008 3:30:15 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast

What’s the over and under on him seeing the end of his “sentence” alive???


44 posted on 08/07/2008 3:31:09 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: navyguy
I've always thought that we should extract every bit of information from them by addicting them to heroin and then withholding it. When the info is provided and verified, liquidate them. They have no status as POW and summary execution is allowed by convention.
45 posted on 08/07/2008 3:34:05 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: newzjunkey
Maybe. I laugh how a few days ago the Left was throwing fits over the conviction.
It doesn't matter what the left thinks. Look at the evidence these military officers had to work with. This guy was a low level employee. Are we going to sentence Osama's cook and barber to death? They must have been trusted employees as well.

The negative reaction on this board is proof the Administration made another serious mistake trying Hamdan first. The charges they actually convicted him of were after thoughts.

46 posted on 08/07/2008 3:35:42 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
I don't know about the sentence. But you're absolutely right about the stupidity of making this the first case. What kind of people are running things? Absolute f#$%ing morons.
47 posted on 08/07/2008 3:37:06 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: isrul

Yes. Merely fighting out of uniform is grounds for summary execution on the battlefield, according to the Geneva Convention.

That’s logical, because it dissuades combatants from trying to pass themselves off as civilians, which puts civilians at risk.


48 posted on 08/07/2008 3:37:14 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: Mr Rogers
Maybe these Lindsy Graham type officers will be assign to an area where there new buddy is driving murderers around and they and they alone can reap the results of the weak willed stupidity.
49 posted on 08/07/2008 3:43:52 PM PDT by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: tobyhill
The Nuremberg Trial
Look at the fate of Hitler's driver. Erich Kempka testified at the Nuremberg trials but was never charged with anything.
50 posted on 08/07/2008 3:46:28 PM PDT by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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