Posted on 08/05/2008 8:08:06 PM PDT by Lurker
I don’t hope that the 9/11 hijackers are in Hell. I suspect that they are. And if they had committed the same crime, in a manner that allowed them to survive, I think they should have been executed. I’m not for wimpy earthly responses to vicious criminals.
But the eternal destiny of a person is on an entirely different plane. It is up to God, whose judgment is certainly just.
I don’t have much doubt—not really any doubt—that Hitler is in Hell. But I am not talking about what is probable, or what is a moral certainty—that Hitler is in Hell. I am talking about WANTING Hitler to be in Hell. That is equivalent to hating Hitler. And hating anyone is sinful.
Now, once the world ends, and everyone is either in Heaven or in Hell, then everyone will know, and God’s final judgments will be thoroughly understood, and their perfect justice will be evident. The blessed in Heaven will not be saddened by the presence of other peoplel in Hell—even their friends and family—because they will know, fully, the hatred and evil that was chosen by those who went to Hell.
But we don’t have that knowledge NOW. We are obliged to withhold judgment—not judgment about what kinds of behavior are good and evil—but about the precise state of the souls of other people.
There is, I believe, a Mafia custom of hiring a prostitute and sending her to a rival, then shooting the victim after he has fornicated with the prostitute—in order to make sure that he goes to Hell. Even though this custom is based in a certain way of understanding Christian belief, I don’t think that this custom can be reconciled with the attitudes that Christians ought to have.
You, then, must hold a great many FReepers in low esteem.
I think you need to learn some sound theology. Jesus taught that we are to love everyone and hate no one. Rejoicing at the prospect of someone’s going to Hell is hate.
But we can be more than half-full grateful that the Roberts Court this week decided 6-3 for American sovereignty in the Medellin v. Texas decision. In 1993, Jose Medellin, an illegal Mexican immigrant, raped and murdered two teenage girls in Houston, for which he was sentenced to death by a Texas jury.
Then the government of Mexico and Medellin’s shyster lawyers began arguing the verdict should be set aside because he wasn’t told of his supposed right (via a treaty, not any US law) to talk to the Mexican consulate at the time of his arrest. The International Court of Justice ruled in Mexico’s favor. The Supreme Court ruled on Monday (3/24) that the sovereign state court of Texas could ignore the ICJ ruling.
Liberals bleated that it was a “disgraceful defeat for international law,” but it really was a defeat for Condi Rice, who sweet-talked the President into signing an Executive Order demanding Texas enforce the ICJ ruling. The Supreme Court’s decision voided that EO. For Condi, “repairing damaged relations with the international community” by siding with the ICJ was more important than the sovereignty of American law.
Condi lost, the libs lost, our sovereignty won, and Jose Medellin will die as he deserves by lethal injection. Good news all the way around.
Jack Wheeler
tothepointnews.com
Sorry, don’t need a lesson on theology from you. I also do not need to explain my self or my belief system to you either. We will agree to disagree with respect to my feelings about this person and his fate.
But the rule remains: If you express a view in public, you are inviting comment on it. That’s America.
Knock yourself out.
Next time you say you hope somebody goes to hell, I will.
Let’s get it straight. I said, and I quote, “burn in Hell”, not “go to Hell”. There’s a difference. Subtle maybe, but still a difference. If you think that man is elsewhere I’m not the one in need of a lesson on Theology. Just FYI, I will no longer respond to your posts to me as there is nothing we have to discuss between us.
I think I see the distinction. You are sure he is in hell, and are glad he is in hell. As opposed to not knowing whether or not he is in hell, but hoping he is.
I would dispute the tacit premise that, in order to preserve the moral truth that rape/murder is wrong, one must either assume or hope that those who commit those crimes are going to hell. I would agree that rapists and murderers who die unrepentant will go to hell. But I would also say that a Christian is obligated to hope that people repent of their sins before death.
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