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Panel Urges End to Prostate Screening at Age 75
NY Times ^ | August 5, 2008 | TARA PARKER-POPE

Posted on 08/05/2008 1:38:43 PM PDT by neverdem

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41 posted on 08/05/2008 7:23:02 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Now, lets get back to funding Breast Cancer research.

There was an article here not long ago about older women not being given mammograms.

42 posted on 08/05/2008 8:05:59 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: DoughtyOne
Hey, at least you guys get until 75.

A team from the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) have developed a computer model to test the effectiveness of mammogram tests for breast cancer.
They found that mammography screening after the age of 69 results in only a small gain in life expectancy, and is only moderately cost-effective.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/554239.stm

43 posted on 08/05/2008 8:12:34 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

I’ve got a unique idea. Don’t set age limits. Present all the options and let the patient decide.


44 posted on 08/05/2008 8:40:24 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Dianna

I think that is wrong too Dianna. If I had seen that, I would have commented on it.


45 posted on 08/05/2008 8:54:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: Dianna

My instinct is still to disagree with this. Perhaps I could be convinced if I saw all the data. The same could be said for men an the prostate I suppose.


46 posted on 08/05/2008 8:56:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: CindyDawg
I’ve got a unique idea. Don’t set age limits. Present all the options and let the patient decide.

Exactly. Whether or not I'd think a mammogram is worthwhile, for myself, at 70 would depend upon any number of factors.

47 posted on 08/05/2008 8:58:52 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: ErnBatavia

I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer on 7/3/08. I told the Doc I would burn his house down if I saw the biopsy vid on U Tube:) He said he had to take a few pics. I asked him if he was remaking “Braveheart” I’m scared out of my mind, but a good attitude helps from what I’m told. Surgery is scheduled for early Sept.


48 posted on 08/05/2008 9:04:22 PM PDT by Phinanceguy
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To: DoughtyOne
I think that is wrong too Dianna. If I had seen that, I would have commented on it.

I wasn't trying to be snarky, I just remembered the article because it was posted not very long ago.

I wish I could manage the FR search better. There was another article recently talking about a cancer medication (I think) that costs $100,000 but only slows the cancer down for a handful of months.

I want to make these decisions for myself. I'd likely decline these types of tests and treatments, but I don't want anyone denying them for me.

49 posted on 08/05/2008 9:06:57 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: neverdem
My dad was diagnosed when he was in his early 80s. They cut away some tissue.

A couple of year later his readings were up, they gave him female hormones for 90 days. Shrunk back to under 4 reading.

Died at 91 from other causes, but the prostate problem was arrested and may have given him another 6 years or so.

50 posted on 08/05/2008 9:07:19 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Phinanceguy
I’m scared out of my mind, but a good attitude helps from what I’m told. Surgery is scheduled for early Sept.

Good luck, my FRiend. If prayer would comfort you, you can post a vanity, or more privately FReep-Mail Trussell with your request.

51 posted on 08/05/2008 9:09:30 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

Diana I didn’t mean to imply that you were being snarky.

I just meant that I want to treat each gender by the same set of rules when possible.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I appreciated it.


52 posted on 08/05/2008 9:30:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: weegee
It doesn't say that it could kill them.

Yea. And it's not like being incontinent and and impotent would adversely effect a man's quality of life. What's the big deal? Squeezing a few extra months of breathing is what counts. Never mind that you will never again make love to your wife and will be wearing a diaper. She can help you change it. It'll be romantic for the both of you.

53 posted on 08/05/2008 9:40:25 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: count-your-change

The fact that I used that reference probably puts me in with the “geezer group” ;)


54 posted on 08/06/2008 5:07:22 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
I’ve found being a “geezer” provides a good excuse for most anything I want to do or not do. Except tall white socks, sandals and baggy shorts. Not even at gun point, no way.
55 posted on 08/06/2008 5:50:07 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I think if you're 75 you've got a lot more problems to look for than developing prostate cancer.

I was diagnosed with it right after my first PSA test at age 50 and confirmed by a followup biopsy. I had it surgically removed (along with Vietnam War Hero John Fng Kerry on the same day). Both of us are ding fine. Rudy Guillani had the radiation seed treatment. They told me that would only be good for 15 years where surgery was permanent. So I agree, if you make it to 75 I wouldn't worry about Prostate cancer in the future.

56 posted on 08/06/2008 6:06:24 AM PDT by McGruff (In loving memory of a lost FRiend YaYa123.)
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To: McGruff

Thanks for relating your brush with this problem. Glad things turned out okay. I’m still on the fence regarding this though. Some people live into their 90s and even hundreds. I’m not sold on the idea of people at 75 not having testing done.


57 posted on 08/06/2008 7:17:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: weegee

So go ahead. When you hit 80 and have a prostate cancer that will maybe kill you in 20 to 30 years, go ahead and opt for that radical prostatectomy. Be my guest.


58 posted on 08/06/2008 10:02:11 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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