Stop right there. But, McCain is also a heretic to conservatism.
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Posted on 08/05/2008 7:11:59 AM PDT by no dems
The liberal media are unhinged over John McCain's recent ad campaign against Barack Obama, which erased Obama's 9-point lead in the polls and tied the race. How dare McCain challenge their anointed one?
Obama is not the only one convinced he is "the one we've been waiting for." The media are also annoyed they have to endure this irritating uprising from McCain, who is officiously intermeddling with the inexorable flow of history.
Sunday show hosts, editorial pages, and both print and TV news stories this past weekend were pregnant with outrage over McCain's "negative" campaigning – "negative" being defined as anything, truthful or not, that places Obama in a less favorable light than they require.
Campaigns are supposed to inform voters, and all questions should be on the table. It is not negative campaigning to enlighten voters about your opponents' positions on the issues, his qualifications or his character, so long as the information is truthful. Negative campaigning is smearing your opponent through lies and deceit.
But while we're on the subject of honest campaigning, perhaps it is time for Obama to be truthful about who he is and what he stands for instead of scrupulously concealing those things.
But the truth will come out eventually. And if you think the media are squawking now, just wait till the campaign proceeds to the point that Obama's policy and racial radicalism receive the exposure they deserve.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
The only way we can defeat Obama and his Soros-backed millions and free media attention is via the internet. This must be a grassroots effort using websites, blogs, YouTube and any other cyberspace advantage including the E-MAIL addresses for every computer in America.
More people are online than there are who watch CBS, NBC and ABC.
Stop right there. But, McCain is also a heretic to conservatism.
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“But while we’re on the subject of honest campaigning, perhaps it is time for Obama to be truthful about who he is and what he stands for instead of scrupulously concealing those things.”
Like the fact the father he had dreams of was a self-destructive alcoholic, who lost his legs in a car accident when he was driving under the influence?
Like the fact that his formative years were spent being educated in Indonesia (the largest Muslim country) and that he has an axe to grind against Christians and Jews, and capitalism, and free speech?
I wouldnt let that moron touch my car to check the air in the tires, much less be the leader of the free world.
I understand. Obama will be far better for our country than John McCain because John McCain is a heretic!
So instead of working to make sure that Obama is defeated, and then working to change the party from within by getting involved, we should decry McCain at every chance, which in your case is on a multitude of threads, so that he may be defeated!
That'll teach them a lesson!
I guess you really don't care what happens to your country.
Well...
"If this be treason, make the most of it!" - Patrick Henry
Once the body is dead, the only thing that "changes stuff from within" is maggots.
McCain and his gangs of bipartisan bendover compromisers have already changed the party. Look around and open your eyes.
I guess you really don't care what happens to your country.
Yes, without a new tsar, we're all gonna die! We're all doomed! Yes, Americans are unable to live and function without the Government! Yes, Western society will fall unless McCain wins! /sarc
BTTT for one helluva Virginian!
Please see Post #9.
I’m sorry but I do not accept your premise on the types of Judges McCain will nominate.
The main issue; will President Obama prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons which they will pass on to terrorists in which to attack American cities?
When we lose a couple of cities will we justifiably assign blame to the Obama Administration, the media and the Obama voters or will we give them a pass as we did with the Clinton Administration, the media and the Clinton voters after the terrorist attacks of September, 11th, 2001?
While John McCain is anything but my 1st choice for our candidate, I believe the time for arguing over this is long past since he IS the candidate. It is now time to rally around this imperfect candidate and do what is at this time the very most important thing, beat the Democrat.
I am puzzled over the many on this forum who despite the obvious facts as stated above, continue to trash the nominee as if this will somehow give us another candidate. It will not and so the question is as imperfect and awful a candidate McCain is to many of us, it cannot logically be argued that he is anywhere near as bad for this nation as would be Obama as president.
This leads me to wonder at the agenda of the McCain naysayers. Perhaps I am missing something here. Do these people who continually attack McCain suppose we can still at this late date come up with another candidate? If possible and he were a serious conservative I would be all for it but how can this ever happen? Assuming it can’t it seems all that is being accomplished by our side trashing our candidate is to help the real enemy, Obama.
Well, I’d say our chances are better with McCain than with the Marxist, closet-Muslim who was raised in the most Muslim nation in the world and only uses Christianity to promote Black Liberation Theology.
The guy is anti-Christ I’m telling you. When he stood in Germany and said: “Citizens of the World: This is our hour”. That was so anti-Christesque it made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
Funny you should speak about corruption. Perhaps we need to dust off the books and take a closer examination at McCain's conduct with regards to the Savings & Loan charlie foxtrot over twenty years ago (otherwise known as the Keating Five scandal).
Please don't destroy our chances by trying to destroy John McCain who is pro-life and pro-Constructionist Judges.
McCain is running for the office of President of the United States of America, an officer of the Federal Government who is charged with enforcing the law. Yet, he is a leading advocate of offering amnesty to illegal aliens.
Why would I want to vote for a President who isn't even in favor of enforcing the law?
McCain is perfectly capable of destroying himself. He already has.
Oh, I see it.
But I don’t lend my support to devils, thanks.
November 8, not 11. And, that was the point where I finally got sufficiently PO-ed about the GOP, after my Senator macaca-ed himself into oblivion.
Your whole post is a vivid illustration of why McCain can’t win.
But even if he did “win”, his election would signal the total takeover of government by liberals.
Don’t try and scare me into supporting someone who will destroy my country by trotting out a boogie man who may or may not destroy it a tiny little bit more thoroughly.
Here’s a challenge for you:
Make one post for McCain that doesn’t involve Obama or the use of fear in any form.
Then run it through your credibility meter and see how lame and unbelievable it sounds.
The official Republican Party slogan for 2008:
“We have nothing to offer but fear itself.”
Never, in our history rich with conniving scoundrels and self-aggrandizing merchants of lies (and much worse) as politicians, has any candidate for president ever had a more carefully and completely hidden past than Marxist Barack Obama.
Never, in our history rich with political ideologues, has there been a candidate who planned greater theft of our culture and collectivist confiscation of property and freedoms than Marxist Barack Obama. (He means it when he says "change" and "sacrifice".)
” . . . it seems all that is being accomplished by our side trashing *our candidate* is to help the real enemy, Obama.”
Welcome, wilkommen y bien venidos to FR, to you and the mouse in your pocket, Noobian princess.
Just Say No To Juan McCain = Elect Barack Obama
I don’t know why we have a Pro-Obama ping list on FR. It seems kind of self-defeating to me.
Whatever...
Like all liberals, you start with a faulty premise, and therefore all your conclusions end up being wrong.
Before you start whining about being called a liberal, let me explain why I call you that, even though I'm only going by your pro-McCain post.
If you're voting for a liberal, you are de facto a liberal. In other words, you are a liberal in every way that matters. Words to the contrary mean nothing when your sacred franchise is being employed on behalf of liberalism. They are nothing but empty lip-service.
And John McCain has done more over the last decade to advance liberalism in the U.S. Senate than any other politician.
His election would mean the complete takeover of the U.S. government by the Left.
Hooray!
/s
But even if he did “win”, his election would signal the total takeover of government by liberals.
Either he cannot win or he can, make up your mind. It's a bit difficult to engage someone who takes both sides of an argument.
Like it or not, it’s time we all faced the reality which is staring us square in the face...there are two utterly terrible candidates for the most important job in the world and one of them is going to be elected. As a conservative, I’m damned tired of “choosing the lesser of two evils”, but getting mad will not change this very distressing fact. And I’m not about to take my marbles and go home, like so many gutless congressional republicans have done over the years when faced with real-life choices. So let’s work to elect McCain and then work even harder to prevent him from turning the nation over to 100 million disease bearing, drug selling, crime committing, welfare collecting Mexican illegals. But faxes, emails, phone calls, letters...nothing will prevent the Obamessiah from following the orders of his big money masters in turning this country into a full fledged Marxist state. So while we pray that someone will shoot the Messiah, lets try to get McCain into the White House.
It doesn’t matter. Obama and McCain are both liberals. One will destroy our free republic one way, and the other will do it another way. Either way, freedom is dead.
What exactly is so hard to understand about that?
So, it has to get worse before the Republican Party will reform, eh?
Of course, it is much more likely that it will get worse, and then get much much worse, and never get better.
But at least you will be pure.
Your post clearly demonstrates that you have succumbed to moral relativism, driven there by fear.
Obama is now your standard.
Congratulations.
I never said any of that. You’re making stuff up.
There is no reforming a dead body. All you can do is bury it.
You want to know the ultimate irony? Conservatives have enough political force, if they were principled and had the courage of their supposed convictions, to crush the Left in both parties. Even still in this election.
So, what is your prescription for success? Third Party?
You seem to be advocating the election of Barack Obama in 90 days. How is that going to advance your prescription?
Gotta do it anyway, no matter the outcome of any particular election, since both of the previously "major" parties are corrupted beyond repair. Might as well start now. It ain't going to get any easier later with the enemies of liberty such as McCain gutting the Bill of Rights at a progressively faster rate.
"Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God." - George Washington
I'll bet I've sacrificed more personally to defeat Obama than you have. More than simply typing words into posts on FR. So, I don't owe you or your phony fear-based arguments a thing in this regard.
I’ll offer you the challenge I gave to no dems in #19:
Make one post for McCain that doesn’t involve Obama or the use of fear in any form.
Then run it through your credibility meter and see how lame and unbelievable it sounds.
We are just going to have to disagree, I guess.
I advocate ranking the viable candidates best to worst and picking the name from the top of the list, because that is the one that I want to win.
You both disagree, obviously.
New tagline...
I do disagree.
That’s called moral relativism, which is the philosophy that is detroying our free republic.
How's this: I support John McCain because he was an early and effective advocate of the surge strategy that secured victory in Iraq. Based on this, I am confident that he will continue to advocate sensible and effective policies that will help secure victory in Afghanistan and ensure the formation of a reliable US ally in Iraq.
There is nothing moral about it. It is relativism, however.
Since no candidate is going to agree with me completely, every candidate will disagree with me to some extent. It is a fairly simple thing to rank a list of candidates on how much they agree or disagree with me, and determine who from that list I most want to support.
Sometimes the choice is easy. If it is Ronald Reagan vs. Jimmy Carter, Reagan is so much better it is a no-brainer. But I did not support Ronald Reagan's position on everything. On balance, he was the better choice, so I supported him in spite of those disagreements.
The same calculus holds true in this election. It may not be emotionally satisfying, but there it is.
Now, what do you think is going to happen to our foreign policy when McCain picks a bunch of leftwing Republicans and Democrats to run the State Department, the Defense Department, and our intelligence services? What do you think will be the result of McCain's consistent propensity to love our enemies and hate those who are theoretically "on his side"? What do you think will be the outcome of McCain's and Obama's propensity to grovel to the Euro-socialist weenies? What are the ramifications of McCain's adherence to the globaloney agenda of the Red Green forces of socialism? What will McCain's payback be to George Soros for providing the moolah necessary for the Senator to make it the nomination?
These are fair questions.
Thank you for ceding the argument.
Of course, the inconvenient truth in this matter is that, while we are busy with nation-building halfway around the world, pretend conservatives here are unhesitatingly working under the cloak and banner of "bipartisan compromise" to undermine our sovereignty by openly enticing foreign nationals to swarm across our borders.
It does no good to have an ally in Iraq while we at home morph into a banana republic like so many foreign States south of the Rio Grande.
That said, both major party candidates are terrible, and I utterly loathe both of them.
Poor Mack. So far up Teddy Kennedy's backside, he can taste the Scotch.
Your arguments have absolutely nothing to do with the points I made.
Turn the freakin’ record over man. We’ve heard that song long enough.
In the day and age we live, it might be wise to have a little fear.
“The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” (Psalms 111:10)
Eternal Vigilance:
I have a great idea. Why don’t you and your cohorts start “THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF AMERICA”? It might take 15-20 for it to become a viable Party but, hey, ya gotta be doin’ something for 20 years.
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