Posted on 08/03/2008 1:31:44 PM PDT by Perdogg
I didn’t even know Tylenol was lethal.
Take Tylenol for five days and go get a liver enzyme test. Guess what? Your liver won’t be happy.
“The anthrax was really easy to make when they wanted to frame a guy, Hatfill, who clearly had no ability to refine the stuff.”
I remember reading articles about Hatfill and thinking it sounded like a solid case.
But it wasn’t.
I’m also reminded of the Olympic security guard who found the bomb in ‘96 in Atlanta.
Accused by the FBI of being the bomber.
But he wasn’t.
Now we are going to hear details about this man as if it is a given he was guilty.
“Financial Times tells us the suicide was by an overdose of pain killer Tylenol. Google informs us that Tylenol is toxic at dosages above 4 grams/day, and doses as low as 10 grams have been lethal. But as a suicide method it takes a few days to have the effect, and the departure from this world is unlikely to be comfortable.”
true, except this was prescription only Tylenol with codeine added to it. (I believe it’s called “tylenol 3”)
If that is accurate, I’m guessing the codeine surpressed his respiratory system, and he probably went to sleep and never woke up.
Remember the pond draining fiasco? The guy with the necklace of explosives in Scranton? Richard Jewel? (poor bastard) The abortion clinic bomber who eluded the FBI’s finest for the better part of a decade by living in the town of 600 the FBI was camped out in and eating berries and food thrown out in dumpsters?
This guy slit his wrists too?
As far as tylenol goes...the article I read described it as prescription tylenol with codeine added to it (”tylenol 3”)
While many people do commit suicide using regular tylenol - it is correct when it is described as a long and painful death from a fried liver.
But with added codeine - I’m guessing the codeine shut down his breathing and that may have been a relatively quick suicide.
“Remember the pond draining fiasco? “
verrry vaguely.
It’s kind of coming back to me now.
They found some obscure object when they drained a pond close to Hatfill’s house - yes?
” The guy with the necklace of explosives in Scranton?”
I’m not sure about that one?
And I should - Scranton is only one hour away.
“The abortion clinic bomber who eluded the FBI’s finest for the better part of a decade by living in the town of 600 the FBI was camped out in and eating berries and food thrown out in dumpsters?”
I remember he turned out to be the real Olympic bomber (or was he?).
I remember articles about what a genius survivalist he was.
I don’t remember anything about berries in dumpsters :)
Just amphetamines to feed children with ADHD and adults with ADHD and depression. Nothing good comes from a world of speed freaks on prozac.
Yeah. But that's not the worst of it. Their family lost a husband and father.
They found nothing in draining the pond near Hatfill's house. It sure looked promising though with all those FBI boats bobbing around in the mud. Any agency who can drain a pond has to know something right?
I do think they pinned the olympic bombing on that guy. Richard Jewel should be one bitter SOB.
I won't even mention Waco or TWA 800. That gets too crazy yet.
They only found the unibomber because his brother turned him in.
I’m pretty certain tylenol 3 has codeine.
I had the prescription a few years ago and got the lecture from my doctor.
Codeine will stop your breathing.
It’s one reason why they took the ingredient out of some prescription cough medicines for children.
Some kids went to bed and never woke up.
My impression from reading the article is that the guy had a “back up”...if the codeine didn’t manage to kill him right away - he would eventually die from liver damage from the acetametaphine.
“Yeah. But that’s not the worst of it. Their family lost a husband and father.”
Agreed.
My point being that his suicide is being used as proof against him - along with all the other circumstantial evidence.
They seem to be very good at creating a bogeyman for us to believe as villians - only to read on the back page of newspaper years later that the accused was given a settlement for defamation.
“It’s pretty easy to be labeled a survivalist expert when the gubmint spends a hundred million staking out a town of 600 and you eluded capture by eating from dumpsters behind the local diner that the FBI is having lunch inside.”
LOL!
I don’t remember the part about his being in the town the FBI was watching.
“They found nothing in draining the pond near Hatfill’s house.”
For some reason I remember there was some gadget they claimed to have found - but even that was a reach.
Must be even that didn’t pan out either.
I think alot of what they do is psychological.
Because they were sure Hatfill was guilty, they’re hoping the very process of draining a nearby pond will drive his guilty conscience to the point where he confesses something?
Who knows.
I’m real glad I’m not a research scientist studying anthrax.
yeah...I got that part.
If the part about threatening co-workers is true - that is indeed very strange, but it only shows he was a man coming unglued.
Why was he coming unglued?
It could be he really was guilty - or the pressure of the investigation drove him batty.
I hope they will be able to get to the bottom of it, but so far it doesn’t look promising.
The reason cough medicine is so hard to get anymore is because it became a party drug. Kids would drink it by the bottle.
The local drug pusher has been replaced by your HMO and pharmacutical companies.
Unless the anthrax scientist was compromized by some other ailment like ALS or similar neuromuscular weakness, it's unlikely that anthing short of a whole bottle of oxycodone would have done too much more than made him throw up. If he managed to keep it down then I suppose. That's not as easy as it sounds though.
I still find it really odd that a bio-weapons researcher would use Tylenol to kill himself. That's like the head chef at Benni Hanna's cutting his throat with a spoon.
“it’s unlikely that anthing short of a whole bottle of oxycodone would have done too much more than made him throw up”
Maybe he kept it down - or maybe he aspirated vomit.
It’s my understanding the acetametiphine poisoning takes a few days to work it’s magic.
So something else must have stopped his breathing.
Unless I’m reading this wrong - did he die the same day he took the pills?
“I still find it really odd that a bio-weapons researcher would use Tylenol to kill himself. That’s like the head chef at Benni Hanna’s cutting his throat with a spoon.”
He was a brilliant man - but also depressed and full of despair.
Then it becomes very difficult to understand what goes through someone’s mind.
I know a young man who tried to do this at the beginning of the summer - with tylenol pm.
Luckily he was found before major damage was done.
I thought he was a happy kid.
People can do strange things when they allow darkness to take over their minds.
I find it hard to believe that anyone would tolerate such harassment. I would be extremely offended if anybody suggested I would betray my country and would make it plain to them that it would be a serious mistake to do so again. Do scientists have less cajones than girls?
The DMV woman who was found in TN in a burnt car was going to testify in a case that had connections to Pittsburgh PA: Iraqi men who were buying fake HazMat licenses from the State Office Bldg in Pittsburgh. It started BEFORE 9/11, and the govt said it had no connection to 9/11 or terror. It came out shortly after 9/11. The Tribune Review had many short articles on it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.