Canada: Mourning family calls man beheaded on bus 'stubborn, kind' [follow-up]

CanWest via The Edmonton Journal, Edmonton, AB ^ | 2008-08-01 | James Turner & Kelly Sinoski

[rabscuttle385]

Canada ping!

[Blogger]

http://simplyjews.blogspot.com/2008/08/vince-weiguang-li-beheader-motivated-by.html

blog says he’s a Chinese Muslim

[Gondring]

And ...
Ur unq n tbbq urnq ba uvf fubhyqref (rot-13)

[Gondring]

blog says he’s a Chinese Muslim

Wow... I've never heard of a Baptist Muslim!

[DB]

What does it take to get a first degree murder charge in Canada???

[libh8er]

[Prole]

Well, Canada's Stalinist government policies on self-defense are partly to blame for this murderous rampage.

Not a soul on the bus with a conceal-carry permit? Pistols? Pepper Spray?

Is it legal to kill a scumbag in Canada if that person is attempting to murder someone?

[Gondring]

What does it take to get a first degree murder charge in Canada???

The murder must be:

1. planned and deliberate,
2. contracted,
3. committed against an identified peace officer,
4. while committing or attempting to commit one of the following offences:
   • hijacking an aircraft,
   • sexual assault,
   • sexual assault with a weapon,
   • aggravated sexual assault,
   • kidnapping and forcible confinement, or
   • hostage taking
5. while committing criminal harassment,
6. committed during terrorist activity,
7. while using explosives in association with a criminal organization, or
8. while committing intimidation.

Disclaimer: IANAL

[Gondring]

Doubtful from the descriptions of what went down that even in Vermont there would have been a likelihood of stopping this. If the perp is a paranoid schizophrenic, as seems likely, he wouldn’t have been intimidated, and he attacked a sleeping victim.

As supportive as I am regarding CC, I have to admit that there’s little chance it would have turned out much different, except possibly with perp and/or innocent bystander injured/killed.

[DB]

Well, cutting the head off somebody you don’t know in front of other people and then displaying it as a trophy is generally considered “terrorist activity” as its purpose is pretty clear - to terrorize.

[DB]

Oh, and thank you for the information.

[dr_lew]

blog says he’s a Chinese Muslim

The cited blog reports an allegation that the CBC had put up a report to this effect, and then removed it. So it's nothing substantial.

For my part, I have other suspicions. In particular I wonder if there hadn't been some kind of encounter between the two, noting that they had just made a rest stop. At any rate, we may trust that there is a reason for everything.

[BunnySlippers]

During the rest stop the perp reportedly went outside and smoked a cigarette with a female passenger.

[Prole]

Well, the b@stard wouldn't have gotten in 40 stabs on me if I were in the bus with him.

I can assure you of that.

[Gondring]

I doubt it took 40. And you can’t be on every bus, in every seat.

[fanfan]

Thanks for the ping, rabscuttle385.

[Ghengis]

The very first stab may have been totally disabling and fatal. Seems the poor guy was sleeping and never knew that it was coming.

Bottom line: The scene would be shocking and chaotic. Likely there were numbers of frantic, hysterical people, milling around, trying to make their escape from the proximity of the attack. A bystander/defender would probably have one chance to stop the attack before the attacker turned on the that person with the large hunting knife. I doubt that the victim, in this case, had any opportunity to defend himself.

[E. Cartman]

Always better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

[Brit]

Premeditation..will do it for you mate. This lunatic apparently didn’t get on the bus aiming to kill this poor guy in particular...anyone would have done as far as he was concerned.