Posted on 07/31/2008 12:54:12 PM PDT by AreaMan
>> All truth is measurable.
I’ve also seen no empirical justification for this assumption.
H
It strikes me that a university biologist who has enough spare time to do crap like this has entirely too much spare time on his hands. It also strikes me that a university biologist who has the desire to do crap like this in his spare time rather than stuff that might advance his and our knowledge of the world around us, his fervid protests aside, might not actually be that serious about science in the first place. And finally, it strikes me that PZ Myers and his like on the one hand, and Fred Phelps and his like on the other, are far more alike than either group would or probably should be comfortable with.
That’s an astute observation.
You can’t “measure” history. And that’s what these atheists try to do in their quest to justify their lifestyle by “disproving” religion.
Both capitalism, marxism and some other ‘ism’ are claimed to be scientific. They led to various wars and killed more people than ‘religious wars’.
>> I’ve determined that I can stand liberal atheists more than I can so called “conservative” atheists. Everyone worships something, liberal atheists deify the state, “conservative” atheists deify themselves. The arrogance is unbearable.
Pride is a common character flaw among both atheists and Christians ... liberal and conservative. Atheism does seem to draw more than its fair share of blow-hard know-it-alls — though I’ve noticed little difference in the evangelism of atheists based on their political ideology.
Self-aggrandizing arrogance is pretty much the bedrock of the atheist faith.
H
The “Age of Reason” brought us a lot of advances in technology.
Unfortunately, some took it too far and displaced religion with “reason” as the source of truth - basically saying that man can know better than God, so there is no need for God.
Like you said, this led to mass slaughters of people in the pursuit of societal perfection here on Earth.
From the natural world
Pride, as CS Lewis states, is probably the largest sin of mankind.
We can know this because we find it most detestable in others. Also, you can tell how much of a problem it is within yourself by the level of your abhorrence when you see it in others.
What does that say about me? My problem I guess.
Current theory may be wrong in some degree, but scientific method is the only proven methodology for establishing truth.
Ever fly on an airplane?
That's an answer, granted a faith-based one, to the first part of my question, but how about the second?
So, if “scientific method” is the only acceptable way to establish truth...
you must not believe much about history.
>> Ever fly on an airplane?
Yes. I fail to see how airplanes constitute empirical evidence for the assumption that the human mind is capable of understanding all in the universe.
Perhaps you’ll have to explain yourself better than that — I am, after all, but a humble mind trapped in the bounds of religion.
H
He’s showing you a dog with a tail and claiming all dogs have tails.
I’m not very convinced of Soliton’s ability to reason, despite his claim to be driven by it.
I also doubt that he’s followed the advice of his tagline (INVESTIGATE, then opine), with regard to Christianity.
Empiricism works. It has utility.
I don't "believe" anything without evidence.
Your religion of the scientific method cannot be used to verify history. What are you going to do?
And if you declare that you’ll believe historical facts by looking at evidence, you’re lying, because evidence in support of Christianity and the divine inspiration of the bible is sitting there for you to “investigate, then opine” on.
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